PA-28 Warrior II

Hi all,

We have just released updates to each of our PA28s, which should fix the issues raised in this thread. The updates can be downloaded via your Just Flight account.

Arrow III (v0.11.1) changelog: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-changelogs-v0-11-1-released-edited-13-05-25
Turbo Arrow III/IV (v0.6.1) changelog: https://community.justflight.com/topic/2257/update-changelogs-v0-6-1-released-edited-13-05-25
Warrior II (v0.4.1) changelog: https://community.justflight.com/topic/2476/update-changelogs-v0-4-1-released-edited-13-05-25

Mark - Just Flight

The yoke animation is a separate behaviour from the flight model, so adjusting the sensitivity curves won't have any effect on the yoke animation itself.

We have logged this feedback on our internal bugs/feature request tracker as something to possibly investigate for a future update.

Mark - Just Flight

Please see: https://community.justflight.com/post/36185

Hi Mark,
The sim is missing quality GA aeroplanes, I do hope your arrow and warrior hit our download folders soon!

@Mark Awesome. I can't. Thanks!

Thanks for the swift response. Yes meanwhile the problem could also be solved here by moving my pc into the multi-monitor environment of my simulator setup. Having the sim connected to three monitors along with the realsimgear screen let's the popup appear. It has these black bars to the left and right but i remember that this can be adjusted ...

@Martyn Any idea as to when there will be a FS2024 version?

We are aware of the mentioned ground handling behaviour. There will be updated flight models included in the upcoming updates to our PA28s that will attempt to reduce the weathervane effect when taxiing in strong winds.

Mark - Just Flight

Unfortunately, we're not familiar with that piece of external hardware, so we would advise referring to the manufacturer's documentation regarding how to assign controls in third-party aircraft.

It may be as simple as assigning a control assignment to the external hardware in MSFS Options > Control Options, or it may be a bit more complex and require the use of LVars and other third-party software.

Mark - Just Flight

I've just taken the current version, freshly downloaded from the site, for a circuit. I deliberately did not trim at all through the flight so it's not a case of 'it has to be correctly trimmed' as you sometimes see with sim aircraft. Able to lift the nosewheel at around 25-30 kts under power, and on the approach / flare with full flap I was comfortably able to make the rear fuselage touch down before the mainwheels using full aft stick but being a bit more sensible could flare perfectly well and maintain a nose-high attitude down again to 30kts.

If you are seeing different to that, the only things I can suggest are 1) check you're on the latest version. 2) are your controller curves linear, as recommended?

ok, thanks.
Could you show me how your ruuder is set ?

Weird, not possible to clone-stamp a little in Photoshop? If it does work, there should be no sticker there?

@NickD27 Thanks for your input. I thought it seemed like I had to push the yoke forward a significant amount to have any result.

We'll see what the dev team can find when they look into it.

I agree. Thank you JustFlight team! This update is a massive improvement. The stall and slow speed characteristics I would say are now far more true to life. Also the pitch up effect when deploying the flaps - this is nicely captured, most small GA planes I've flown in the sim incorrectly model this as a pitch down so this was really great!

If I were to nitpick the only comments I would make are that the climb performance seems a bit optimistic still - don't think I've ever seen more than +1000fpm even flying solo - 6-800fpm is more like it, these birds are not powerful. Cruise speed and power settings seem absolutely spot on though.

And the ground run on takeoff doesn't require right rudder which it does in the real aircraft. After lift off though the ball does slip out to the right requiring right rudder, which is correct.

@jmarkows At the moment we just have the Warrior flight model in testing as that is what we received the most feedback on from the community.

Once that has been released the plan is to revisit the Arrow, Turbo Arrow and Warrior flight models again once MSFS 2024 releases, as we are hoping that will open up a few more doors in the flight model and allow for some more significant improvements. We'll be sure to share more information on that once we get access to the new simulator and the SDK.

Mark - Just Flight

Looking at the approach plate, it's 22.3 NM on the 020 radial from LRP to OUTLT. Which is 12.7 NM on I-VXO, the localizer. I don't see KLNS anywhere on the approach plate. If you are calling LRP KLNS, it's still 22.3 NM, not 12.7 NM.

Never mind. Got it sorted.

I'm not clued up on the regulations myself, but our reference photos for the PA28s were taken in 2016/2017, so that may have been before any 8.33KHz regulations were put in place.

Mark - Just Flight

@trevor250

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