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Turbo - No Fuel Flow

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    Voxen
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    Yes, both. I flew the plane multiple times and I never seen the needle moving during priming.

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      Yes, both. I flew the plane multiple times and I never seen the needle moving during priming.

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      @Voxen Send a video, if you could.

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        I can not upload video here but I can send the iCloud link to it:
        https://share.icloud.com/photos/0d6w3fBH8uKJ_2sw9iQq8YlaQ

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          I can not upload video here but I can send the iCloud link to it:
          https://share.icloud.com/photos/0d6w3fBH8uKJ_2sw9iQq8YlaQ

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          @Voxen Thanks for taking the trouble to upload that. I know you said you tapped on the glass before, but unfortunately, not in the video. The variable that drives the actual fuel into the cylinders is literally duplicated in its last step to drive the gauge, so it's very difficult for me to believe that there could be an issue between that last step and the gauge itself.

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            I'm thinking this may be temperature related. As I noted earlier, I'd seen the fuel flow gauge begin to respond with longer priming times on the TC. However on my last few flights it has never moved. The difference is the last few flights have been from airports with extremely high (>30c) temps.

            However, even with the hot temps, the engine still starts just as expected with no issues.

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              Ok here is another, I think I didnt miss anything this time
              https://share.icloud.com/photos/0cbjo-607vAVAumHSAN5Uezyw

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                The EDM shows the fuel flow while priming. Even when the ff gauge doesn't.

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                  I am having the same issue. No fuel flow indicated at priming and to get the needle moving on ground after startup I have to open the throttle around one quarter. Ambient Temperture is the heat in Europe and I hammered the glass like a crazy person. šŸ˜‰

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                    This video at 8:45 also demonstrates this quite clearly:
                    https://youtu.be/YcCze1mSZ8c?si=hfq2mLXyCGIjfd-R

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                    • Z Zacke

                      The EDM shows the fuel flow while priming. Even when the ff gauge doesn't.

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                      @Zacke said in Turbo - No Fuel Flow:

                      The EDM shows the fuel flow while priming

                      Can someone read what the fuel flow is while priming, or what the value of L:BKSQ_FuelFlow_1, GALLONS PER HOUR is?

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                        Voxen
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                        In SPAD.Next data inspection, BKSQ_FuelFlow_1 is not updated at all (value is always 0 and never changes), while priming or when engine is started and pushed up to 20mp.

                        GALLONS PER HOUR, I don't find this variable at all.

                        Also I noted that once engine is running, the FF needle only start to move around 18mp, not below.

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                          Zacke
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                          6,5 gph on the EDM while priming.

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                            This might be helpful for troubleshooting: in the stream of pilotdeviation, there was also no fuel flow in the non-turbo version: time index 00:34:40 https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2837089058

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                              FWIW I see fuel flow on the TN. But the needle is indeed quite sticky.

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                                I did another test and found something interesting.
                                This time, the fuel flow indication didn't increase again, even after tapping the gauge. The EDM showed that fuel flow was increasing normally, so the engine itself was receiving fuel correctly.
                                Since I had previously completed a flight where the gauge worked as expected, I tried to figure out what was causing the needle to stick. It seems to start sticking at around 16°C. By 20°C, the needle no longer moves upward at all, even if I tap on the gauge.

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                                  What is strange is that I’m 100% sure to have seen the needle moving as expected at least once, most likely on the very first flight after purchase where I carefully followed the entire checklist.

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                                    Hi, everyone. I looked into this more today, and found the obvious: The fuel flow gauge is highly non-linear at the very bottom of its scale. Since these real instruments are full of real mechanical eccentricities, I've just added a little piece of "cheater" code to help boost the fuel flow indication just enough to read on the scale. Hopefully that should help eliminate any confusion.

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                                      @Woolies Deploying the flight simulation software emergency response team now šŸ™‚

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                                      @Black-Square said in Turbo - No Fuel Flow:

                                      @Woolies Deploying the flight simulation software emergency response team now šŸ™‚

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                                      Oh one one eight nine nine nine, eight eight one nine nine, nine one one nine, seven two five . . . . . . three.

                                      I love the IT Crowd! šŸ™‚

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                                        @Black-Square said in Turbo - No Fuel Flow:

                                        @Woolies Deploying the flight simulation software emergency response team now šŸ™‚

                                        999.jpg

                                        Oh one one eight nine nine nine, eight eight one nine nine, nine one one nine, seven two five . . . . . . three.

                                        I love the IT Crowd! šŸ™‚

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                                        @rightseat Remember: They're not just the emergency services, they're your emergency services šŸ™‚

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                                          I just noticed something today. First I started flying the turbo version of the commander and got that fuel flow needle not moving when priming (always). Then I switched to the normal version for a few flights, and there the needle is moving as expected. And today I have done another flight with the TC version and guess what: the needle was moving!
                                          I can't find the logic there, but that is maybe something useful for you.

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