Seems the ship has no TCAS? :)
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It's not ideal, but you can keep the GNS 430 installed for a reference with TCAS. If you dial in the traffic page in the GNS and make sure ADS-B is turned on, it'll show traffic. I'm not sure if the GNS will give aural alerts though. I don't like the older GNS units myself, as they are tedious and compared to the GTN, it's a huge downgrade in operational convenience. It's also not the best to have a display for reference at the very back of the pedestal, lol.
I would welcome an extra gauge on the panel myself, but there isn't much room. You would have to take out a standby gauge and that isn't ideal. Putting one on the copilot side where the AOA is on the captain side would be nice. I don't know the real world requirements. Obviously, many GA aircraft are flying around without a visual TCAS, and ATC expects you "see and avoid" traffic. I'm surprised a turboprop that travels up to 41,000 feet doesn't have one though.
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Let’s hope @Black-Square may have a great idea for (at least) an optional „aftermarket“ TCAS to be brought in. In addition, one other thing I am missing and would kind of love as an optional one as well would be a simple cockpit/cabin temp gauge:
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Let’s hope @Black-Square may have a great idea for (at least) an optional „aftermarket“ TCAS to be brought in. In addition, one other thing I am missing and would kind of love as an optional one as well would be a simple cockpit/cabin temp gauge:
@x4569 said in Seems the ship has no TCAS?
:Let’s hope @Black-Square may have a great idea for (at least) an optional „aftermarket“ TCAS to be brought in. In addition, one other thing I am missing and would kind of love as an optional one as well would be a simple cockpit/cabin temp gauge:
You have both "idiot lights" on the top left of the panel and on the copilots side a temp guage? You can change the units the display shows in the tablet. See page 88 of the manual.
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Just in case this isn't clear, there is a cabin temperature LCD display on the copilot's left subpanel. Starship is the only airplane I've ever seen where this indication is so well integrated into the panel.
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omg, how the hell ignore that! Me stupid...
@Black-Square what do you think about that strange thing that the starship obviously in real came wihtout a TCAS? You think we could have some "aftermarket" TCAS in that thing as an option? Thanks a lot for that great bird! -
I think it did as this article seems to suggest it had TCAS.
https://airplaneinsights.com/beech-starship-cockpit/
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well, that is interesting. Thanks @HansRoaming
Never seen any mentioning as far as I remember regarding TCAS, only that aftermarket as in the picture above.
Maybe we have someone here who could bring evidence?
I would be surprised as I have not seen any buttons ore other functionality leading to the assumption it came with TCAS -
well, that is interesting. Thanks @HansRoaming
Never seen any mentioning as far as I remember regarding TCAS, only that aftermarket as in the picture above.
Maybe we have someone here who could bring evidence?
I would be surprised as I have not seen any buttons ore other functionality leading to the assumption it came with TCAS@x4569 presumably it could have just had a software user interface rather than a button.
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I would defer to @Black-Square as the authoritative I can't imagine the amount of manuals he's trawled through to implement the systems and the owners he's spoken to over the last three years.
Saying that, it would be so neat seeing traffic on those lovely displays :).
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Just a quick chatgpt remark (yes I know..
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...however, TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) was not part of the standard avionics installed in the Starship during its production run....
TCAS — Background and Regulatory Context
TCAS was developed in the late 1970s and early 1980s and became a requirement for larger commercial airliners in the early 1990s due to FAA regulations.FAA Mandate (U.S.):
TCAS II became mandatory in 1993 for U.S.-registered turbine-powered aircraft with more than 30 seats.
Later extended to aircraft with more than 10 seats.The Starship, being a business turboprop seating up to 8–10 passengers, did not fall under these early TCAS mandates.
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Looks like it was just too early for any threshold to require it.
