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Seems the ship has no TCAS? :)

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  • Black SquareB Offline
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    Just in case this isn't clear, there is a cabin temperature LCD display on the copilot's left subpanel. Starship is the only airplane I've ever seen where this indication is so well integrated into the panel.

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      Yes, the cabin temp in below the oxygen pressure readout, and next to the temp selector control dials. It's so easy to miss things. That cockpit is busy!

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        omg, how the hell ignore that! Me stupid...
        @Black-Square what do you think about that strange thing that the starship obviously in real came wihtout a TCAS? You think we could have some "aftermarket" TCAS in that thing as an option? Thanks a lot for that great bird!

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          I think it did as this article seems to suggest it had TCAS.

          https://airplaneinsights.com/beech-starship-cockpit/

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            well, that is interesting. Thanks @HansRoaming
            Never seen any mentioning as far as I remember regarding TCAS, only that aftermarket as in the picture above.
            Maybe we have someone here who could bring evidence?
            I would be surprised as I have not seen any buttons ore other functionality leading to the assumption it came with TCAS

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              well, that is interesting. Thanks @HansRoaming
              Never seen any mentioning as far as I remember regarding TCAS, only that aftermarket as in the picture above.
              Maybe we have someone here who could bring evidence?
              I would be surprised as I have not seen any buttons ore other functionality leading to the assumption it came with TCAS

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              @x4569 presumably it could have just had a software user interface rather than a button.

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                x4569
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                yeah, could - but would be super surprised..

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                  I would defer to @Black-Square as the authoritative I can't imagine the amount of manuals he's trawled through to implement the systems and the owners he's spoken to over the last three years.

                  Saying that, it would be so neat seeing traffic on those lovely displays :).

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                    Just a quick chatgpt remark (yes I know.. 🙂 )
                    ..
                    ...however, TCAS (Traffic Collision Avoidance System) was not part of the standard avionics installed in the Starship during its production run.

                    ...
                    TCAS — Background and Regulatory Context
                    TCAS was developed in the late 1970s and early 1980s and became a requirement for larger commercial airliners in the early 1990s due to FAA regulations.

                    FAA Mandate (U.S.):
                    TCAS II became mandatory in 1993 for U.S.-registered turbine-powered aircraft with more than 30 seats.
                    Later extended to aircraft with more than 10 seats.

                    The Starship, being a business turboprop seating up to 8–10 passengers, did not fall under these early TCAS mandates.

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                      Looks like it was just too early for any threshold to require it. 😞

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