Marketplace and Xbox
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Oh also I did actually find I think one bug unless it's supposed to work like this, obviously no way to be sure if it's present on PC as well, but the EICAS works with the battery off(no external power, engines off, crash bar on battery and gens closed). First time I noticed I'd just forgotten to turn it off before cutting the battery, but I tried toggling it from cold and dark and it does come on. -
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Oh also I did actually find I think one bug unless it's supposed to work like this, obviously no way to be sure if it's present on PC as well, but the EICAS works with the battery off(no external power, engines off, crash bar on battery and gens closed). First time I noticed I'd just forgotten to turn it off before cutting the battery, but I tried toggling it from cold and dark and it does come on.@jasmits The EICAS has its own backup battery to be used in the event of failure, and while starting the engines (to avoid voltage drop). You can follow the circuit on the live electrical schematic, and get an idea for the EICAS' many power supplies by pulling the breakers in the bottom left row of the co-pilot's circuit breaker panel.
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@jasmits The EICAS has its own backup battery to be used in the event of failure, and while starting the engines (to avoid voltage drop). You can follow the circuit on the live electrical schematic, and get an idea for the EICAS' many power supplies by pulling the breakers in the bottom left row of the co-pilot's circuit breaker panel.
@Black-Square wow, cool! Great to know!
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Thanks for the appreciation! It always makes the late nights more worthwhile. I'll be on my look out for anything suspicious, and let know know if I see anything.
@Black-Square Sounds great! Can't wait for more from you!
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- Screen dirt shaking: Present in all versions of MSFS, and a limitation of their rendering engine.
- Very unlikely to be an issue with the aircraft, since all code related to controls are unchanged between versions.
- I haven't seen anything like this reported, but it's possible there could be changes to the aerodynamics model in MSFS 2024. Although there haven't been any that I'm aware of in 2020, or 2024, you just never know.
I also have reversed trim, it's an aircraft issue as very few other planes has this reversed. Also I'm in MSFS2020, so it's not connected to sim version. This comes up with only a few planes, and only if the trim is on an axis like my controls or the Turtle Beach controllers; it's been like this since the release of the Starship. You can reproduce it with any hardware axis (eg throttle) bound to the trim axis, just compare Starship to other planes eg. the default 172.
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Is there any news about Starship in 2024-Marketplace? Is it already submitted to Microsoft? It´s November and I think it should be available in the meantime.
@Data We submitted it over two months ago now. I will see if I can get an update.
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Thank You, I would appreciate an update on this.
Microsoft has not provided any information on this. In the last Developer Stream, Jorg Neumann said that there were no problems with the Marketplace adaptation. However, the Blacksquare aircraft (Starship and Dukes) were submitted months ago and have not yet been released.
It is also difficult to understand why they are not being released on the Marketplace when they have been available from Justflight for months and work perfectly. -
All we can tell you at the moment is that there are tech issues at their end that they've been unable to resolve. This is linked to the submission process and mechanics of the way the products are placed on Marketplace and not to do with the specifics of any of the products. There are other Just Flight titles that have and suffering the same fate. There are no finer details to give that would help you here. We do continue to ask the questions of various contacts at their end who are involved and the general response is, without quoting directly is "Still trying to get the bottom of things to fix the issues". Frustrating for all of you, for Nick at BS and for ourselves and rest assured we continue to seek updates and information on a regular basis in the hopes of a breakthrough.
That's all we can really say at this point, sorry.
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Using the 2000 Starship in MSFS2024 on Xbox currently. Dose STILL not show on Marketplace. BUT as a work around.
Redownloaded msfs2020 core client on to console
And then got the starship and Dukes from that marketplace. (Ok to remove 2020 again at this point)Then after 24-48hr’s it appears in library in 2024 and all work fine
(Weather radar and registration on skin issues aside.)
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There is a work around, for the BS Dukes and Starship at least that’s what I had to do to get it.
I’m on Xbox msfs2024, though I got the dukes in 2020 before I migrated to 2024 full time. They work 99.9% (wether radar not drawing correctly long standing Xbox issue. And the registration blacked out). Still show in library.
so 2 weeks ago, I got sick of waiting. Reinstalled just the basic 2020 client. Got BS beechcraft 2000 starship in the Xbox marketplace. Deleted 2020. Had to give 24hr’s and it showed up in 2024 library. And works perfectly ( above weather radar issue aside.
And if it don’t show, raise a support ticket, and they’ll manually replicate it through. I did it when there where Azure issues.
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@Black-Square Apologies if this has already been asked, but are there plans to make the Starship fully 2024 Native?
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@Black-Square Apologies if this has already been asked, but are there plans to make the Starship fully 2024 Native?
@KAPA-Flyer I was going to copy-paste an answer from another post, but instead I will start by asking what your definition of "fully MSFS 2024 native" is before I post lots of possibly irrelevant things about MSFS development.
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@KAPA-Flyer I was going to copy-paste an answer from another post, but instead I will start by asking what your definition of "fully MSFS 2024 native" is before I post lots of possibly irrelevant things about MSFS development.
@Black-Square I may just be nitpicking, but small things like using 2024 Avatars, using the new CFD(?) and it's still marked as a 2020 product.
You know more than I do, and it's still an amazing aircraft as-is.
Just figured there might be something more coming.
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@Black-Square I may just be nitpicking, but small things like using 2024 Avatars, using the new CFD(?) and it's still marked as a 2020 product.
You know more than I do, and it's still an amazing aircraft as-is.
Just figured there might be something more coming.
@KAPA-Flyer Ah, reviewing this thread, I see that you're an XBOX user? Starship and all my other aircraft are fully MSFS 2024 native, with all the features you mention. Unfortunately, we have been waiting for four months now for Asobo to approve my aircraft updates for the 2024 Marketplace. The TBM has been approved, meanwhile the others have been sitting in limbo for reasons never fully explained to me.
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@KAPA-Flyer Ah, reviewing this thread, I see that you're an XBOX user? Starship and all my other aircraft are fully MSFS 2024 native, with all the features you mention. Unfortunately, we have been waiting for four months now for Asobo to approve my aircraft updates for the 2024 Marketplace. The TBM has been approved, meanwhile the others have been sitting in limbo for reasons never fully explained to me.
@Black-Square Ah, I see. Yeah, I'm beyond frustrated how we've yet to get the Baron & Bonanza Pro.
But, Microsoft can't seem to take accountability on anything, I'm not surprised even first party developers have jumped ship.
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This is not all on Asobo/Microsoft, I am sure about that.
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This is not all on Asobo/Microsoft, I am sure about that.
@AlpraziTech If you're implying that it's somehow my fault, I have not been contacted by anyone to request/suggest remedies, and the TBM was accepted after three months of limbo with no changes from me. Just Flight manages my marketplace releases, and has made many efforts to determine the problem and accelerate the process, communicating directly with Microsoft/Asobo. I am aware of several other developers who are experiencing similar unexplained delays.
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This is not all on Asobo/Microsoft, I am sure about that.
@AlpraziTech It absolutely is on them. Many developers have attested that.
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@AlpraziTech It absolutely is on them. Many developers have attested that.
@KAPA-Flyer But also many don't. Here I only see pointing at each other. I am only here for 2 reasons, I absolutely love BS aircrafts and I have money to burn. I don't run their businesses.
