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    This took quite a bit of digging to find, and naturally I came across it 5 minutes before giving up my search.

    Given the fidelity and complexity of BKSQ's failure system on Starship, I thought it'd be a welcome addition to the realism equation to have access to a copy of the Master Minimum Equipment List, or MMEL, for the airplane. For those of you who aren't familiar, the MMEL is a document authored by the FAA for a specific aircraft type that details what equipment the airplane can be dispatched with inoperative, as well as any applicable procedure that must be followed to operate the airplane without said equipment working. It provides a clear and objective answer to the question of "can we go without that working, and if so, do we need to do anything differently than we normally would because of it?"

    The MMEL serves as the starting point for operators and air carriers to develop their MEL's, which is basically just the MMEL tailored to a specific serial number, or in the case of an airline, an entire fleet type. If I find the time after release, maybe I'll develop a tailored MEL based on the equipment configuration in the BKSQ Starship.

    The first time something fails on me, it's going to be fun to find out if I can just keep flying it that way for a while! (As we normally have to do in real life, unfortunately.)

    Starship MEL:
    https://drs.faa.gov/browse/excelExternalWindow/170321D2A5A122208625752400624D62.0001

    Anyways, nerd moment over, back to refreshing the product page every 11 seconds until release. Cheers!

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      Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for locating that! I have saved it in my treasure trove of Starship documents and memorabilia. Indeed, if you created a "human readable" version of this government document, I would be happy to include it in my manual. I would do this for all my aircraft if you were feeling extreme levels of nerdiness, I might add. Looking forward to answering all your Starship questions once you've had a chance to take her for a spin! Well, maybe not your questions, because you seem very resourceful 🙂

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        Fun!
        I am not sure of authentic you can make it. It must be tailored for sim.
        While Quick Reference (QRM) is used in the air, MEL is used on ground (licensed tech).

        Basic: Aircraft must be equipped as delivered from factory to be airworthy. MEL items are exceptions. If an ash tray is missing, and not mention in the MEL, the aircraft is grounded. Why you never see propeller as a MEL item.

        As you understand, the MEL is very extensive. Components, items missing or unserviceable must always have a reference to MEL. A small MEL sticker is usually added in cockpit as a reminder. With extensive number of possible failures in BSQ, MEL item numbers will be very high.

        Problem with a simulator is that MEL items usually have time limit. A broken landing light must be fixed within 3 days, and aircraft cannot operate at night (a fiction example to make a point) .

        But - could be fun to see a simulator MEL as close to real life as possible, such as u/s emergency light you are not allowed to carry pax. Low oxygen - max flight level 10.

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          Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for locating that! I have saved it in my treasure trove of Starship documents and memorabilia. Indeed, if you created a "human readable" version of this government document, I would be happy to include it in my manual. I would do this for all my aircraft if you were feeling extreme levels of nerdiness, I might add. Looking forward to answering all your Starship questions once you've had a chance to take her for a spin! Well, maybe not your questions, because you seem very resourceful 🙂

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          @Black-Square For some reason, the idea of customizing it for our Starship (and subsequently doing the rest of the BKSQ fleet) just became and itch I'd really like to scratch.

          As a flight department manager and captain for an air carrier IRL, stuff like this is kinda my thing. Which means this is probably a bad time to mention that I've also already generated a maintenance event tracking spreadsheet that tracks every inspection and life-limited part prescribed by the Starship Maintenance Manual, as well as an integrated flight log that talks to said maintenance spreadsheet. It's a hybrid between the tracking system we use for the jet, and the system I've implemented for my personal airplane IRL.

          Yes, I'm tracking LLP's and inspection events for my simulated Starship. Yes, it's ridiculous. Yes, it's totally overkill. But it's cool!

          I'd love to work with you on developing MEL's for the entire BKSQ fleet to make them part of the standard manual suite. If you want to collaborate on this mini-project, lets connect and do it!

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            You know, after your first message, I figured you might feel this way 🙂 I know that when I get an idea for something like this, I can't stop until it's fully completed. Some call it OCD, others call it completionism. I just call it working in aviation! As you can imagine, I have other little things to deal with on Starship right now, but I would be delighted to come back to this soon.

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              You know, after your first message, I figured you might feel this way 🙂 I know that when I get an idea for something like this, I can't stop until it's fully completed. Some call it OCD, others call it completionism. I just call it working in aviation! As you can imagine, I have other little things to deal with on Starship right now, but I would be delighted to come back to this soon.

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              @Black-Square I'm sure you'll be very busy for quite some time lol. I'll circle back around on here down the road and we get figure out a way to chat about it elsewhere. I have a few more MEL ideas I think you'll like!

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                Here is the link to MMEL for Beech 200 series. Starship should be 2000 series. Not able find it - Probably avail only on paper

                https://www.caa.co.uk/publication/download/12436

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                  Here is the link to MMEL for Beech 200 series. Starship should be 2000 series. Not able find it - Probably avail only on paper

                  https://www.caa.co.uk/publication/download/12436

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                  @eker If you'd read my first post in its entirety, you'd have found the link to the BE-2000S Master MEL at the bottom.

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                    Thanks - yes , of course I tried that first, at first glance there was no MEL, and assumed it was general info about MMEL system. Guess you must search further for in the page.

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