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  • Black SquareB Online
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    Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for locating that! I have saved it in my treasure trove of Starship documents and memorabilia. Indeed, if you created a "human readable" version of this government document, I would be happy to include it in my manual. I would do this for all my aircraft if you were feeling extreme levels of nerdiness, I might add. Looking forward to answering all your Starship questions once you've had a chance to take her for a spin! Well, maybe not your questions, because you seem very resourceful πŸ™‚

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      Fun!
      I am not sure of authentic you can make it. It must be tailored for sim.
      While Quick Reference (QRM) is used in the air, MEL is used on ground (licensed tech).

      Basic: Aircraft must be equipped as delivered from factory to be airworthy. MEL items are exceptions. If an ash tray is missing, and not mention in the MEL, the aircraft is grounded. Why you never see propeller as a MEL item.

      As you understand, the MEL is very extensive. Components, items missing or unserviceable must always have a reference to MEL. A small MEL sticker is usually added in cockpit as a reminder. With extensive number of possible failures in BSQ, MEL item numbers will be very high.

      Problem with a simulator is that MEL items usually have time limit. A broken landing light must be fixed within 3 days, and aircraft cannot operate at night (a fiction example to make a point) .

      But - could be fun to see a simulator MEL as close to real life as possible, such as u/s emergency light you are not allowed to carry pax. Low oxygen - max flight level 10.

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        Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for locating that! I have saved it in my treasure trove of Starship documents and memorabilia. Indeed, if you created a "human readable" version of this government document, I would be happy to include it in my manual. I would do this for all my aircraft if you were feeling extreme levels of nerdiness, I might add. Looking forward to answering all your Starship questions once you've had a chance to take her for a spin! Well, maybe not your questions, because you seem very resourceful πŸ™‚

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        @Black-Square For some reason, the idea of customizing it for our Starship (and subsequently doing the rest of the BKSQ fleet) just became and itch I'd really like to scratch.

        As a flight department manager and captain for an air carrier IRL, stuff like this is kinda my thing. Which means this is probably a bad time to mention that I've also already generated a maintenance event tracking spreadsheet that tracks every inspection and life-limited part prescribed by the Starship Maintenance Manual, as well as an integrated flight log that talks to said maintenance spreadsheet. It's a hybrid between the tracking system we use for the jet, and the system I've implemented for my personal airplane IRL.

        Yes, I'm tracking LLP's and inspection events for my simulated Starship. Yes, it's ridiculous. Yes, it's totally overkill. But it's cool!

        I'd love to work with you on developing MEL's for the entire BKSQ fleet to make them part of the standard manual suite. If you want to collaborate on this mini-project, lets connect and do it!

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          You know, after your first message, I figured you might feel this way πŸ™‚ I know that when I get an idea for something like this, I can't stop until it's fully completed. Some call it OCD, others call it completionism. I just call it working in aviation! As you can imagine, I have other little things to deal with on Starship right now, but I would be delighted to come back to this soon.

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            You know, after your first message, I figured you might feel this way πŸ™‚ I know that when I get an idea for something like this, I can't stop until it's fully completed. Some call it OCD, others call it completionism. I just call it working in aviation! As you can imagine, I have other little things to deal with on Starship right now, but I would be delighted to come back to this soon.

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            @Black-Square I'm sure you'll be very busy for quite some time lol. I'll circle back around on here down the road and we get figure out a way to chat about it elsewhere. I have a few more MEL ideas I think you'll like!

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              Here is the link to MMEL for Beech 200 series. Starship should be 2000 series. Not able find it - Probably avail only on paper

              https://www.caa.co.uk/publication/download/12436

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                Here is the link to MMEL for Beech 200 series. Starship should be 2000 series. Not able find it - Probably avail only on paper

                https://www.caa.co.uk/publication/download/12436

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                @eker If you'd read my first post in its entirety, you'd have found the link to the BE-2000S Master MEL at the bottom.

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                  Thanks - yes , of course I tried that first, at first glance there was no MEL, and assumed it was general info about MMEL system. Guess you must search further for in the page.

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                    Absolutely brilliant! Thank you so much for locating that! I have saved it in my treasure trove of Starship documents and memorabilia. Indeed, if you created a "human readable" version of this government document, I would be happy to include it in my manual. I would do this for all my aircraft if you were feeling extreme levels of nerdiness, I might add. Looking forward to answering all your Starship questions once you've had a chance to take her for a spin! Well, maybe not your questions, because you seem very resourceful πŸ™‚

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                    @Black-Square Lovely Starship model you engineered and very enjoyable to fly. Any additional docs about it are welcome; any nerd-level. I'm slowly building up my stash of Starship docs and discovering how much of the real one you modelled. The docs are to support me learning all about it, and fly it properly.

                    Q about nav floppy drive. I love the attention to detail. I noticed it has a small lever that can turn 90ΒΊ. I didn't expect that with 3.5-inch drives, and my limited experience only saw ones with a eject button (and ones without for Mac). Is this floppy drive a dedicated model for use in aviation/Starship?

                    OK, need to stop, Starship is waiting for me. πŸ˜‰

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                      @Black-Square For some reason, the idea of customizing it for our Starship (and subsequently doing the rest of the BKSQ fleet) just became and itch I'd really like to scratch.

                      As a flight department manager and captain for an air carrier IRL, stuff like this is kinda my thing. Which means this is probably a bad time to mention that I've also already generated a maintenance event tracking spreadsheet that tracks every inspection and life-limited part prescribed by the Starship Maintenance Manual, as well as an integrated flight log that talks to said maintenance spreadsheet. It's a hybrid between the tracking system we use for the jet, and the system I've implemented for my personal airplane IRL.

                      Yes, I'm tracking LLP's and inspection events for my simulated Starship. Yes, it's ridiculous. Yes, it's totally overkill. But it's cool!

                      I'd love to work with you on developing MEL's for the entire BKSQ fleet to make them part of the standard manual suite. If you want to collaborate on this mini-project, lets connect and do it!

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                      @SinkRate Would you be willing to share your form. This is the one I made for XPlane, the CL650 specifically based on an operator: https://forums.x-pilot.com/files/file/1359-aircraft-trip-log/

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