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  • J JetNoise

    @exp131 said in Performance on landing:

    I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

    Nope, never saw this ! Its NOT the plane !

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    Exp131
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    @jetnoise I don't think so. I cleared the community folder - no effect. Flew the same route with another aircraft - everything was fine. The issue exists for this particular aircraft on my system.

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    • J JetNoise

      @exp131 said in Performance on landing:

      I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

      Nope, never saw this ! Its NOT the plane !

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      Exp131
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      @jetnoise and did you fly this aircraft long enough?

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        @jetnoise I don't think so. I cleared the community folder - no effect. Flew the same route with another aircraft - everything was fine. The issue exists for this particular aircraft on my system.

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        JetNoise
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        @exp131 Then best is : Open a ticket at JustFlight with your sys details ...

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        • J JetNoise

          @exp131 Then best is : Open a ticket at JustFlight with your sys details ...

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          Exp131
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          @jetnoise Thanks, I already did it.

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          • J JetNoise

            @exp131 said in Performance on landing:

            I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

            Nope, never saw this ! Its NOT the plane !

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            sparrows69
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            @jetnoise

            Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

            Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

            I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

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              @jetnoise

              Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

              Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

              I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

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              JetNoise
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              @sparrows69 said in Performance on landing:

              @jetnoise

              Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

              Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

              I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

              Sure do it 😉

              See my specs above
              MSFS and F28 (146, Fenix, Maddog) are just running fine.
              F28 from release day, MSFS through all its BETAs.
              All i can say ...
              Oliver
              I'll post my settings if you guys need ...

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              • J JetNoise

                @sparrows69 said in Performance on landing:

                @jetnoise

                Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

                Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

                I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

                Sure do it 😉

                See my specs above
                MSFS and F28 (146, Fenix, Maddog) are just running fine.
                F28 from release day, MSFS through all its BETAs.
                All i can say ...
                Oliver
                I'll post my settings if you guys need ...

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                sparrows69
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                @jetnoise

                That something works for you does not mean it works for everyone.
                This is your experience, not an evidence.
                I could say MSFS and 146, Fenix, Maddog are just running fine. This is my experience, not an evidence, but leads to the impression that my system is basically not f... up.

                We talk of Software, and software is made by humans and can contain bugs, that may apply on one system, while on other system it doesn´t hurt. Maybe you are a GC driver version ahead or behind? Who knows?
                From this threat I can read there is something some people experienced or I can read one is smart and the others are not on the page. I prefer the first interpretation.

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                  @jetnoise

                  That something works for you does not mean it works for everyone.
                  This is your experience, not an evidence.
                  I could say MSFS and 146, Fenix, Maddog are just running fine. This is my experience, not an evidence, but leads to the impression that my system is basically not f... up.

                  We talk of Software, and software is made by humans and can contain bugs, that may apply on one system, while on other system it doesn´t hurt. Maybe you are a GC driver version ahead or behind? Who knows?
                  From this threat I can read there is something some people experienced or I can read one is smart and the others are not on the page. I prefer the first interpretation.

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                  JetNoise
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                  I hope you guys will get it sorted and JF has a solution for you all.

                  Oliver

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                    I hope you guys will get it sorted and JF has a solution for you all.

                    Oliver

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                    sparrows69
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                    @jetnoise JF just posted in ticket that they think of a memory leak and try to nail it down. I´m the third reporter. What I have to say, what a good support, gettin answer in 20 minutes, not usual in todays days....

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                      @jetnoise Yes that’s me on FS.to and I answered you 😉

                      For the stutter problem let’s see what JF will find and hopefully they will find a solution. Anyway love the plane already and that vintage feel.

                      Flight simmer since 1989 and a big fan of aviation in general
                      https://youtube.com/c/GeekGamingCH

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                        @jetnoise JF just posted in ticket that they think of a memory leak and try to nail it down. I´m the third reporter. What I have to say, what a good support, gettin answer in 20 minutes, not usual in todays days....

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                        delfin25
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                        @sparrows69 Hopefully it's not the same problem as the Carenado PC12. With this bird, the frame rate is also halved after about an hour of flight time. After what feels like 10 software updates, they still haven't gotten the problem under control.
                        There it is connected to an instrument that nobody really needs, the Avidyne EX500, which can display navigation data. Ultimately, disabling this instrument completely prevents the memory leak.

                        I saw that there is a similar function in the Weather Radar (MAP) in the F28. I am not aware that the Honeywell Primus series (or Sperry) offers such a display in addition to the GMAP function. Would be just ballast in an old school plane anyway ;-).

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                          @sparrows69 Hopefully it's not the same problem as the Carenado PC12. With this bird, the frame rate is also halved after about an hour of flight time. After what feels like 10 software updates, they still haven't gotten the problem under control.
                          There it is connected to an instrument that nobody really needs, the Avidyne EX500, which can display navigation data. Ultimately, disabling this instrument completely prevents the memory leak.

                          I saw that there is a similar function in the Weather Radar (MAP) in the F28. I am not aware that the Honeywell Primus series (or Sperry) offers such a display in addition to the GMAP function. Would be just ballast in an old school plane anyway ;-).

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                          sparrows69
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                          @delfin25
                          Where did you find this info in F28 that using such a function? I mean, could be write in ticket to point them towards this.

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                            @delfin25
                            Where did you find this info in F28 that using such a function? I mean, could be write in ticket to point them towards this.

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                            delfin25
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                            @sparrows69 In the manual on page 123. The MAP function is described there. However, unlike the real Honeywell system, this is "only" a display of the airport ICAOs and does not provide real ground mapping.

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                              @sparrows69 In the manual on page 123. The MAP function is described there. However, unlike the real Honeywell system, this is "only" a display of the airport ICAOs and does not provide real ground mapping.

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                              sparrows69
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                              @delfin25

                              Problem seem does not be related , so far I had GPS activated, and face the problem, too.

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                                @delfin25

                                Problem seem does not be related , so far I had GPS activated, and face the problem, too.

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                                delfin25
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                                @sparrows69 When one instrument is activated on an MSFS aircraft, it does not necessarily mean that the other instrument will be completely deactivated. It is not loaded when loading the aircraft until it is excluded in panel.cfg.

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                                  @sparrows69 When one instrument is activated on an MSFS aircraft, it does not necessarily mean that the other instrument will be completely deactivated. It is not loaded when loading the aircraft until it is excluded in panel.cfg.

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                                  sparrows69
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                                  @delfin25

                                  From panel config,but yes, at the end we don´t know,

                                  [VCockpit08]
                                  size_mm=1024,748
                                  pixel_size=1024,748
                                  texture=WXR
                                  background_color=0,0,255
                                  htmlgauge00=Airliners/JF_F28/WXR/jf_f28_wxr.html, 0,0,1024,748

                                  //[VCockpit08]
                                  //size_mm=1024,1024
                                  //pixel_size=1024,1024
                                  //texture=WXR
                                  //background_color=0,0,255
                                  //htmlgauge00=WasmInstrument/WasmInstrument.html?wasm_module=JF_F28_WASM.wasm&wasm_gauge=WXR, 0,0,1024,1024

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                                    @delfin25

                                    From panel config,but yes, at the end we don´t know,

                                    [VCockpit08]
                                    size_mm=1024,748
                                    pixel_size=1024,748
                                    texture=WXR
                                    background_color=0,0,255
                                    htmlgauge00=Airliners/JF_F28/WXR/jf_f28_wxr.html, 0,0,1024,748

                                    //[VCockpit08]
                                    //size_mm=1024,1024
                                    //pixel_size=1024,1024
                                    //texture=WXR
                                    //background_color=0,0,255
                                    //htmlgauge00=WasmInstrument/WasmInstrument.html?wasm_module=JF_F28_WASM.wasm&wasm_gauge=WXR, 0,0,1024,1024

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                                    delfin25
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                                    @sparrows69 You are right!

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                                      @delfin25

                                      From panel config,but yes, at the end we don´t know,

                                      [VCockpit08]
                                      size_mm=1024,748
                                      pixel_size=1024,748
                                      texture=WXR
                                      background_color=0,0,255
                                      htmlgauge00=Airliners/JF_F28/WXR/jf_f28_wxr.html, 0,0,1024,748

                                      //[VCockpit08]
                                      //size_mm=1024,1024
                                      //pixel_size=1024,1024
                                      //texture=WXR
                                      //background_color=0,0,255
                                      //htmlgauge00=WasmInstrument/WasmInstrument.html?wasm_module=JF_F28_WASM.wasm&wasm_gauge=WXR, 0,0,1024,1024

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                                      delfin25
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                                      @sparrows69 I did another test flight with the F28 from EDDL to EDDT. I didn't turn on the weather radar. The landing went without stuttering. Was that coincidence?

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                                        @sparrows69 I did another test flight with the F28 from EDDL to EDDT. I didn't turn on the weather radar. The landing went without stuttering. Was that coincidence?

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                                        Exp131
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                                        @delfin25 I think your flight was too short to reveal the issue.

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                                          I flew a multi-sector route lasting over six hours in total, over big cities and airports, real weather and traffic etc, on a three year old gaming laptop, and didn't encounter this issue. We're investigating but there must be several factors to this.

                                          Martyn - Development Manager

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