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  • J JetNoise

    @sparrows69 said in Performance on landing:

    nVidia GTX 970

    I don't think, you can compare the Maddog textures (original) with the 146 / F28.
    And than there are some frame-heavy airports/scenery. (like Bremen or Brüssel (payware)).
    It all adds up ...

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    sparrows69
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    @jetnoise

    PMDG: 1,7GB texture (840MB for VC)
    Fenix: 2,2GB texture (916MB for VC)
    Fokker: 2,1GB (1.6 GB for VC)

    May right to say it hits on addon scenery, but again if I´m in the recommended specs, I may expect I have no impact or no huge impact landing on a vanilla airport. That should be possible at least, and at least with my medium settings. If not, the recommendations are wrong.
    The Fokker may be demanding on perfomance but it is not out of this world.

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    • BOOMerB BOOMer

      On my side I experienced the same issue with a 4090 and Ryzen 7950x3d and 64 gigs of ram. My settings are high but not all on ultra as I prefer smoothness over visuals. As mentioned on my last post on this thread things are coming to normal after system shut down and battery off. To add some details when I leave my departure airports, there is no stutters even if it’s a more demanding airport than my destination. So it’s why I’m still thinking something stack up in the memory. But that could also be something else.

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      JetNoise
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      @boomer If you leave the dep airport you already loaded in all the stuff, if you are approaching, stuff is loaded in at a certain range ! Understand LOD values.

      IMO, to own a 4090, 30xx, or 20xx doesn't matter for this issue.
      If its a 12GB card and you try to load 11+ Gbs into, its obviously causing issues.

      A big memory hog btw is "General Options" - "Traffic"
      My settings are OFF, OFF, 20, 0, 20, 25,25,70, 25, OFF, OFF,OFF, ULTRA

      That helped a bunch

      BTW, did you see my privat message ... (if you are GGCH_BOOMer on FS.to)

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        I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

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          I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

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          JetNoise
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          @exp131 said in Performance on landing:

          I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

          Nope, never saw this ! Its NOT the plane !

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          • J JetNoise

            @exp131 said in Performance on landing:

            I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

            Nope, never saw this ! Its NOT the plane !

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            Exp131
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            @jetnoise I don't think so. I cleared the community folder - no effect. Flew the same route with another aircraft - everything was fine. The issue exists for this particular aircraft on my system.

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            • J JetNoise

              @exp131 said in Performance on landing:

              I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

              Nope, never saw this ! Its NOT the plane !

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              Exp131
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              @jetnoise and did you fly this aircraft long enough?

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                @jetnoise I don't think so. I cleared the community folder - no effect. Flew the same route with another aircraft - everything was fine. The issue exists for this particular aircraft on my system.

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                @exp131 Then best is : Open a ticket at JustFlight with your sys details ...

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                • J JetNoise

                  @exp131 Then best is : Open a ticket at JustFlight with your sys details ...

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                  @jetnoise Thanks, I already did it.

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                  • J JetNoise

                    @exp131 said in Performance on landing:

                    I have stutters and a significant FPS drop (from 80 on takeoff to 5-10) after 1,5 hours of flying. No other plane behaves like this. But the sim itself works well, when I go to the menu, it runs smoothly.

                    Nope, never saw this ! Its NOT the plane !

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                    sparrows69
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                    @jetnoise

                    Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

                    Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

                    I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

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                      @jetnoise

                      Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

                      Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

                      I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

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                      @sparrows69 said in Performance on landing:

                      @jetnoise

                      Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

                      Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

                      I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

                      Sure do it 😉

                      See my specs above
                      MSFS and F28 (146, Fenix, Maddog) are just running fine.
                      F28 from release day, MSFS through all its BETAs.
                      All i can say ...
                      Oliver
                      I'll post my settings if you guys need ...

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                      • J JetNoise

                        @sparrows69 said in Performance on landing:

                        @jetnoise

                        Thats what I said, then the recommendations are wrong, if we are wrong.

                        Boomer has a top notch sytem and has the problems with this aircraft. For sure destination will load in a certain range, but if this is causing probs on a top notch system what specs should one have? An 128GB GC? Thus Fokker needs infinite memory? Always a GC would load most data as possible, that is not the end of the world, maybe it´s limiting me, thus I reduced settings, but a 24 GB GC should be able to soak up the stuff.

                        I will open a ticket, "it´s not the plane" is not an answer, the world is not black and white.

                        Sure do it 😉

                        See my specs above
                        MSFS and F28 (146, Fenix, Maddog) are just running fine.
                        F28 from release day, MSFS through all its BETAs.
                        All i can say ...
                        Oliver
                        I'll post my settings if you guys need ...

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                        sparrows69
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                        @jetnoise

                        That something works for you does not mean it works for everyone.
                        This is your experience, not an evidence.
                        I could say MSFS and 146, Fenix, Maddog are just running fine. This is my experience, not an evidence, but leads to the impression that my system is basically not f... up.

                        We talk of Software, and software is made by humans and can contain bugs, that may apply on one system, while on other system it doesn´t hurt. Maybe you are a GC driver version ahead or behind? Who knows?
                        From this threat I can read there is something some people experienced or I can read one is smart and the others are not on the page. I prefer the first interpretation.

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                          @jetnoise

                          That something works for you does not mean it works for everyone.
                          This is your experience, not an evidence.
                          I could say MSFS and 146, Fenix, Maddog are just running fine. This is my experience, not an evidence, but leads to the impression that my system is basically not f... up.

                          We talk of Software, and software is made by humans and can contain bugs, that may apply on one system, while on other system it doesn´t hurt. Maybe you are a GC driver version ahead or behind? Who knows?
                          From this threat I can read there is something some people experienced or I can read one is smart and the others are not on the page. I prefer the first interpretation.

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                          JetNoise
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                          I hope you guys will get it sorted and JF has a solution for you all.

                          Oliver

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                          • J JetNoise

                            I hope you guys will get it sorted and JF has a solution for you all.

                            Oliver

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                            sparrows69
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                            @jetnoise JF just posted in ticket that they think of a memory leak and try to nail it down. I´m the third reporter. What I have to say, what a good support, gettin answer in 20 minutes, not usual in todays days....

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                              BOOMer
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                              @jetnoise Yes that’s me on FS.to and I answered you 😉

                              For the stutter problem let’s see what JF will find and hopefully they will find a solution. Anyway love the plane already and that vintage feel.

                              Flight simmer since 1989 and a big fan of aviation in general
                              https://youtube.com/c/GeekGamingCH

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                                @jetnoise JF just posted in ticket that they think of a memory leak and try to nail it down. I´m the third reporter. What I have to say, what a good support, gettin answer in 20 minutes, not usual in todays days....

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                                @sparrows69 Hopefully it's not the same problem as the Carenado PC12. With this bird, the frame rate is also halved after about an hour of flight time. After what feels like 10 software updates, they still haven't gotten the problem under control.
                                There it is connected to an instrument that nobody really needs, the Avidyne EX500, which can display navigation data. Ultimately, disabling this instrument completely prevents the memory leak.

                                I saw that there is a similar function in the Weather Radar (MAP) in the F28. I am not aware that the Honeywell Primus series (or Sperry) offers such a display in addition to the GMAP function. Would be just ballast in an old school plane anyway ;-).

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                                  @sparrows69 Hopefully it's not the same problem as the Carenado PC12. With this bird, the frame rate is also halved after about an hour of flight time. After what feels like 10 software updates, they still haven't gotten the problem under control.
                                  There it is connected to an instrument that nobody really needs, the Avidyne EX500, which can display navigation data. Ultimately, disabling this instrument completely prevents the memory leak.

                                  I saw that there is a similar function in the Weather Radar (MAP) in the F28. I am not aware that the Honeywell Primus series (or Sperry) offers such a display in addition to the GMAP function. Would be just ballast in an old school plane anyway ;-).

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                                  sparrows69
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                                  @delfin25
                                  Where did you find this info in F28 that using such a function? I mean, could be write in ticket to point them towards this.

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                                    @delfin25
                                    Where did you find this info in F28 that using such a function? I mean, could be write in ticket to point them towards this.

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                                    @sparrows69 In the manual on page 123. The MAP function is described there. However, unlike the real Honeywell system, this is "only" a display of the airport ICAOs and does not provide real ground mapping.

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                                      @sparrows69 In the manual on page 123. The MAP function is described there. However, unlike the real Honeywell system, this is "only" a display of the airport ICAOs and does not provide real ground mapping.

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                                      @delfin25

                                      Problem seem does not be related , so far I had GPS activated, and face the problem, too.

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                                        @delfin25

                                        Problem seem does not be related , so far I had GPS activated, and face the problem, too.

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                                        @sparrows69 When one instrument is activated on an MSFS aircraft, it does not necessarily mean that the other instrument will be completely deactivated. It is not loaded when loading the aircraft until it is excluded in panel.cfg.

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                                          @sparrows69 When one instrument is activated on an MSFS aircraft, it does not necessarily mean that the other instrument will be completely deactivated. It is not loaded when loading the aircraft until it is excluded in panel.cfg.

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                                          @delfin25

                                          From panel config,but yes, at the end we don´t know,

                                          [VCockpit08]
                                          size_mm=1024,748
                                          pixel_size=1024,748
                                          texture=WXR
                                          background_color=0,0,255
                                          htmlgauge00=Airliners/JF_F28/WXR/jf_f28_wxr.html, 0,0,1024,748

                                          //[VCockpit08]
                                          //size_mm=1024,1024
                                          //pixel_size=1024,1024
                                          //texture=WXR
                                          //background_color=0,0,255
                                          //htmlgauge00=WasmInstrument/WasmInstrument.html?wasm_module=JF_F28_WASM.wasm&wasm_gauge=WXR, 0,0,1024,1024

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