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  • hangar_101H hangar_101

    @escriba most likely you are missing the toggle_alternator event, you shall change the LVAR but also must execute the toggle event, see example below.
    Notice I check for different scenarios when turning off the GEN, alternator can be ON or OFF, depending on the scenario I raise a toggle_alternator event or not.
    I also have a script in place just to make sure the switch position in the airplane panel matches the switch position in the home cockpit hardware, this just keeps them in sync. You may not want to implement all these options, so adapt the code to your need. The action boxes have all the command sequence you need to configure your switch button, but keep in mind the airplane switch has three positions.

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    Regards,

    Anderson

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    Escriba
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    @anderson Sorry no feedback but very busy at work.
    All instructions have are good, almost everything works perfect with exception of the start.
    I only can do it with the mouse and not binding any switch.
    Everything i try the switch go down to "Starter Only". But never to "Engine start"
    I cannot find the event. Can you help?
    Thanks in Advance
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      @anderson Sorry no feedback but very busy at work.
      All instructions have are good, almost everything works perfect with exception of the start.
      I only can do it with the mouse and not binding any switch.
      Everything i try the switch go down to "Starter Only". But never to "Engine start"
      I cannot find the event. Can you help?
      Thanks in Advance
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      hangar_101
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      @escriba see below

      note 1: as usual disregard the JOY condition (it's a particular check I do due the use of multiple functions to the same hardware switch)

      note 2: I posted screenshots for left engine only, for right engine use GENERAL ENG STARTER:2 and TURB ENG IGNITION SWITCH EX1:2 instead

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      Regards,

      Anderson

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      • hangar_101H hangar_101

        @raysot hi, bellow follows the setup for avionics switch in KA350i - the way I did it at least.

        AVIONICS ON

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        AVIONICS OFF

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        Regards,

        Anderson

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        meh1951
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        @anderson I am new to SPAD.next and I'm curious where did the [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] come from. I can't find that in my SPAD.

        tia

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          @anderson I am new to SPAD.next and I'm curious where did the [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] come from. I can't find that in my SPAD.

          tia

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          Lemny
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          Worked for me for the engine start.

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            How does one figure out all that stuff. All I can do is using the data monitor or event monitor in Spadnext to find out what values change or what events are being sent when I operate a switch or button in the virtual cockpit. This method works fine for some simpler aircrafts but not for the King Air. So ist there a way to acquire this knowledge or is it all guesswork and trial an error ?

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            • hangar_101H hangar_101

              @escriba see below

              note 1: as usual disregard the JOY condition (it's a particular check I do due the use of multiple functions to the same hardware switch)

              note 2: I posted screenshots for left engine only, for right engine use GENERAL ENG STARTER:2 and TURB ENG IGNITION SWITCH EX1:2 instead

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              Regards,

              Anderson

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              meh1951
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              @anderson
              Using this I can get the switch to move but it does not turn on everything. If I pull the breaker and push it back in it turns on. What am I missing.

              I also found the same thing on AVSIM Forum from December

              Trying to get the avionics master switch to work for the Black Square king air with my Alpha, using Spad.next . I can get the switch to move up and down by updating "VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH", but the avionics don't actually power on. Strangely, if I pull the avionics breaker, and push it back in, they come on. Is there some variable or event I'm missing here?

              After doing the breaker trick if I turn bat, alt and avionics off then all I have to do is turn on the battery on and the GOS (530) comes on.
              So is this an issue in the AnalogKinAir.xml file??

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                @anderson
                Using this I can get the switch to move but it does not turn on everything. If I pull the breaker and push it back in it turns on. What am I missing.

                I also found the same thing on AVSIM Forum from December

                Trying to get the avionics master switch to work for the Black Square king air with my Alpha, using Spad.next . I can get the switch to move up and down by updating "VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH", but the avionics don't actually power on. Strangely, if I pull the avionics breaker, and push it back in, they come on. Is there some variable or event I'm missing here?

                After doing the breaker trick if I turn bat, alt and avionics off then all I have to do is turn on the battery on and the GOS (530) comes on.
                So is this an issue in the AnalogKinAir.xml file??

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                @meh1951 the LVAR VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH alone does not do the trick for the Avionics, you must add the other commands (ELECTRICAL_BUS_TO_BUS_CONNECTION_TOGGLE & ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE) as indicated in my previous post in this thread dated back Mar 15th.

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                • hangar_101H hangar_101

                  @meh1951 the LVAR VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH alone does not do the trick for the Avionics, you must add the other commands (ELECTRICAL_BUS_TO_BUS_CONNECTION_TOGGLE & ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE) as indicated in my previous post in this thread dated back Mar 15th.

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                  @anderson
                  I have added what you had. Does the order matter?

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                    @anderson
                    I have added what you had. Does the order matter?

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                    hangar_101
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                    @meh1951 yes, you must execute in the same sequence as indicated. This sequence you can verify by looking into the events page when you switch avionics on using the mouse.

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                    • hangar_101H hangar_101

                      @meh1951 yes, you must execute in the same sequence as indicated. This sequence you can verify by looking into the events page when you switch avionics on using the mouse.

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                      @anderson
                      I just can't get this to work

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                        @anderson
                        I just can't get this to work

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                        hangar_101
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                        @meh1951 notice there are two conditions that must be observed for Avionics switch ON. You are covering just the first one for SWITCH_ENGINE == 0, maybe you need to add the second condition (SWITCH_ENGINE =! 0) and the respective actions to be executed (in this case you don't execute the ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE event(131)). Please refer to my previous post on this thread for details.

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                        • hangar_101H hangar_101

                          @meh1951 notice there are two conditions that must be observed for Avionics switch ON. You are covering just the first one for SWITCH_ENGINE == 0, maybe you need to add the second condition (SWITCH_ENGINE =! 0) and the respective actions to be executed (in this case you don't execute the ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE event(131)). Please refer to my previous post on this thread for details.

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                          @anderson
                          Does not change the fact that GPS (530) does not turn on when I turn avionics switch on and Starter won't kick in unless I turn OFF the Avionics Switch.

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                          Avionics OFF
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                          • M meh1951

                            @anderson
                            Does not change the fact that GPS (530) does not turn on when I turn avionics switch on and Starter won't kick in unless I turn OFF the Avionics Switch.

                            Avionics On
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                            Avionics OFF
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                            hangar_101
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                            @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                            Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                            • hangar_101H hangar_101

                              @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                              Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                              @anderson
                              I only have the WT GNS530 1.1.4 (latest)installed.
                              I will try to get a VID.
                              https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gelc2l6vf9cxm4/Microsoft%20Flight%20Simulator%202023.05.15%20-%2020.31.33.01.mp4?dl=0

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                              • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                                Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                                @anderson
                                Did this help?

                                https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gelc2l6vf9cxm4/Microsoft%20Flight%20Simulator%202023.05.15%20-%2020.31.33.01.mp4?dl=0

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                                • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                  @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                                  Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                                  @anderson said in KA350i Avionics switch:

                                  mod version 1.0.8)?

                                  I have KA350 0.1.3 which I think is the latest.

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                                    @anderson I am new to SPAD.next and I'm curious where did the [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] come from. I can't find that in my SPAD.

                                    tia

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                                    @meh195, knowing this is an older topic, were ever able to find this: [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] in spad? I am trying to get the avionics switch assigned to my Honeycomb Alpha and not having success so far.

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