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  • E Escriba

    @anderson Sorry no feedback but very busy at work.
    All instructions have are good, almost everything works perfect with exception of the start.
    I only can do it with the mouse and not binding any switch.
    Everything i try the switch go down to "Starter Only". But never to "Engine start"
    I cannot find the event. Can you help?
    Thanks in Advance
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    hangar_101
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    @escriba see below

    note 1: as usual disregard the JOY condition (it's a particular check I do due the use of multiple functions to the same hardware switch)

    note 2: I posted screenshots for left engine only, for right engine use GENERAL ENG STARTER:2 and TURB ENG IGNITION SWITCH EX1:2 instead

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    Regards,

    Anderson

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    • hangar_101H hangar_101

      @raysot hi, bellow follows the setup for avionics switch in KA350i - the way I did it at least.

      AVIONICS ON

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      AVIONICS OFF

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      Regards,

      Anderson

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      meh1951
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      @anderson I am new to SPAD.next and I'm curious where did the [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] come from. I can't find that in my SPAD.

      tia

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        @anderson I am new to SPAD.next and I'm curious where did the [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] come from. I can't find that in my SPAD.

        tia

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        Lemny
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        Worked for me for the engine start.

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          xkris74
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          How does one figure out all that stuff. All I can do is using the data monitor or event monitor in Spadnext to find out what values change or what events are being sent when I operate a switch or button in the virtual cockpit. This method works fine for some simpler aircrafts but not for the King Air. So ist there a way to acquire this knowledge or is it all guesswork and trial an error ?

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          • hangar_101H hangar_101

            @escriba see below

            note 1: as usual disregard the JOY condition (it's a particular check I do due the use of multiple functions to the same hardware switch)

            note 2: I posted screenshots for left engine only, for right engine use GENERAL ENG STARTER:2 and TURB ENG IGNITION SWITCH EX1:2 instead

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            Regards,

            Anderson

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            meh1951
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            @anderson
            Using this I can get the switch to move but it does not turn on everything. If I pull the breaker and push it back in it turns on. What am I missing.

            I also found the same thing on AVSIM Forum from December

            Trying to get the avionics master switch to work for the Black Square king air with my Alpha, using Spad.next . I can get the switch to move up and down by updating "VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH", but the avionics don't actually power on. Strangely, if I pull the avionics breaker, and push it back in, they come on. Is there some variable or event I'm missing here?

            After doing the breaker trick if I turn bat, alt and avionics off then all I have to do is turn on the battery on and the GOS (530) comes on.
            So is this an issue in the AnalogKinAir.xml file??

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            • M meh1951

              @anderson
              Using this I can get the switch to move but it does not turn on everything. If I pull the breaker and push it back in it turns on. What am I missing.

              I also found the same thing on AVSIM Forum from December

              Trying to get the avionics master switch to work for the Black Square king air with my Alpha, using Spad.next . I can get the switch to move up and down by updating "VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH", but the avionics don't actually power on. Strangely, if I pull the avionics breaker, and push it back in, they come on. Is there some variable or event I'm missing here?

              After doing the breaker trick if I turn bat, alt and avionics off then all I have to do is turn on the battery on and the GOS (530) comes on.
              So is this an issue in the AnalogKinAir.xml file??

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              @meh1951 the LVAR VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH alone does not do the trick for the Avionics, you must add the other commands (ELECTRICAL_BUS_TO_BUS_CONNECTION_TOGGLE & ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE) as indicated in my previous post in this thread dated back Mar 15th.

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                @meh1951 the LVAR VAR_AVIONICSMASTERSWITCH alone does not do the trick for the Avionics, you must add the other commands (ELECTRICAL_BUS_TO_BUS_CONNECTION_TOGGLE & ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE) as indicated in my previous post in this thread dated back Mar 15th.

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                @anderson
                I have added what you had. Does the order matter?

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                  @anderson
                  I have added what you had. Does the order matter?

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                  hangar_101
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                  @meh1951 yes, you must execute in the same sequence as indicated. This sequence you can verify by looking into the events page when you switch avionics on using the mouse.

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                  • hangar_101H hangar_101

                    @meh1951 yes, you must execute in the same sequence as indicated. This sequence you can verify by looking into the events page when you switch avionics on using the mouse.

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                    @anderson
                    I just can't get this to work

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                    • M meh1951

                      @anderson
                      I just can't get this to work

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                      hangar_101
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                      @meh1951 notice there are two conditions that must be observed for Avionics switch ON. You are covering just the first one for SWITCH_ENGINE == 0, maybe you need to add the second condition (SWITCH_ENGINE =! 0) and the respective actions to be executed (in this case you don't execute the ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE event(131)). Please refer to my previous post on this thread for details.

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                      • hangar_101H hangar_101

                        @meh1951 notice there are two conditions that must be observed for Avionics switch ON. You are covering just the first one for SWITCH_ENGINE == 0, maybe you need to add the second condition (SWITCH_ENGINE =! 0) and the respective actions to be executed (in this case you don't execute the ELECTRICAL_CIRCUIT_TOGGLE event(131)). Please refer to my previous post on this thread for details.

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                        @anderson
                        Does not change the fact that GPS (530) does not turn on when I turn avionics switch on and Starter won't kick in unless I turn OFF the Avionics Switch.

                        Avionics On
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                        Avionics OFF
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                        • M meh1951

                          @anderson
                          Does not change the fact that GPS (530) does not turn on when I turn avionics switch on and Starter won't kick in unless I turn OFF the Avionics Switch.

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                          Avionics OFF
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                          hangar_101
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                          @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                          Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                            @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                            Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                            @anderson
                            I only have the WT GNS530 1.1.4 (latest)installed.
                            I will try to get a VID.
                            https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gelc2l6vf9cxm4/Microsoft%20Flight%20Simulator%202023.05.15%20-%2020.31.33.01.mp4?dl=0

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                              @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                              Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                              @anderson
                              Did this help?

                              https://www.dropbox.com/s/8gelc2l6vf9cxm4/Microsoft%20Flight%20Simulator%202023.05.15%20-%2020.31.33.01.mp4?dl=0

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                                @meh1951 do you have the latest version of GNS530 installed (Working Title)+ latest version of GTN750 (2.1.84) installed (including the patch version 1.1.4 and the King Air mod version 1.0.8)?

                                Try and publish a short video to illustrate the issue, it may help understand if there's something else missing.

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                                meh1951
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                                @anderson said in KA350i Avionics switch:

                                mod version 1.0.8)?

                                I have KA350 0.1.3 which I think is the latest.

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                                • M meh1951

                                  @anderson I am new to SPAD.next and I'm curious where did the [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] come from. I can't find that in my SPAD.

                                  tia

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                                  @meh195, knowing this is an older topic, were ever able to find this: [SWITCH_ENGINE (Device)] in spad? I am trying to get the avionics switch assigned to my Honeycomb Alpha and not having success so far.

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