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BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues

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    replied to Martyn on last edited by PVJ
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    @Martyn said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

    @PVJ said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

    Firstly, well done on this brilliant plane. Great all round and I am confident it will get better.

    A few things that I have had trouble with on the tutorial flight:

    1. Config test never passes, after going through everything in the tutorial I am not sure what is not configured. But I went through it several times already now. and did the flows from scratch but none the less the alarm still sounds on the config test.
    2. Return flight, aircraft did not allow any yoke inputs mainly pitch and roll, AP was off. Rudders worked fine, both are set to the joystick for control. Would be great to know what the config test looks for so we can check those items.
    3. Using active sky weather, the aircraft had difficulty staying on course while following a direct to VOR, constantly adjusting left and right even when far out.
    4. I believe there is a "flash light" feature from your preview videos, unsure how to turn that on.
    5. Flight dynamics: aircraft seems fairly sensitive to inputs when hand flying, sudden fast jerk up or down pitches.
    6. APU exterior sound is fairly quiet.
    7. Suggestion: A tutorial video, so that newcomers can get a better visual of flows and where things are located.

    I have only done a couple flights without the FMS but will give that a go next week.

    best,
    Philip

    • Here's the list for the config check. Please let me know if you still get the warning despite setting all those correctly - https://support.justflight.com/en/support/solutions/articles/17000111825-why-is-the-take-off-configuration-horn-being-triggered-when-i-advance-the-thrust-levers-
    • It sounds like you might have inadvertently set the yoke control lock? That should be the only thing that can prevent yoke inputs. It's triggered by clicking on the yoke and can only be triggered on the ground.
    • We are tuning the AP for better nav hold
    • The flash light can be toggled from the Add-ons > Just Flight P3D lighting menu (P3D v5 only as v4 doesn't support that sort of dynamic lighting)
    • We've not encountered the sensitivity issue but will investigate
    • We'll investigate and tweak the sound volumes accordingly
    • We are working on some videos now

    Found the torch, great tool!

    How is the lock activated precisely, or should I say unlocked? can you send a photo of the click spot to unlock it. I believe I may have clicked on it while trying to hide the yoke but accidently first trying to click on the yoke itself as many other addons do it that way, bad habbit.

    The altitude alarm is practically unheard and the exterior APU start is fairly quiet. But otherwise the other sounds are loud and clear.

    best
    Philip

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    Jumbolino
    replied to Con7inuum on last edited by Jumbolino
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    -In the FMC upon selecting DTO a fix, it seems to delete all previous fixes in the flight plan (Could be pilot/PEBKAC error/design feature - but frustrating nonetheless, as I was trying to figure out the previous RNAV issues I was having and ended up having to jump to the next waypoint in the sequence)

    +1 on these issues, the DTO issue mentioned above is a real pain.

    JL

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    SID/STAR not working in latest update--I have nothing for KDEN or KSLC.

    Walker Air Transport | CEO | walkerair.us

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    ConcordeAG
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    New observation:

    • FMC only accepts numbers 1-4 when selecting a SID
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    Mikealpha
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    @ConcordeAG

    yes, same here. If you have more than four SIDs (or STARs, transitions) listed, only 1-4 are selectable. If you have just four listed (e.g. at EGNX Rwy 09), only 2 are selectable.
    So you need a bit of luck to have those selectable that are needed.

    I have opened a ticket for this already.

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    Martyn JF Staff
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    @Ither said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

    SID/STAR not working in latest update--I have nothing for KDEN or KSLC.

    Just to confirm, no changes have been made to the FMC in v1.1 or v1.2. Our coder needs to take his time over any changes to avoid introducing new issues due to its complexity.

    Martyn - Development Manager

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    Another one:

    • Doesn't capture the localizer (V/L), turns away (to the left) into the nirvana
    • If only GSL is selected (while using heading mode, to avoid the above), the same thing happens

    Flightdirector tells the same story, even while trying to do it all manual, the F/D turns you away from the localizer.

    When approaching Minimums the F/D looked alright again, but wasn't keen to re-enable the autopilot to check if it would follow at this point in time.

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    capt_jonesy
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    @Oskar3058 this is exactly the same issue i am having

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    v1.02 still unflyable. No FMC click spot. FMC window does not open. Cannot even turn this on. All I am being told in my ticket is to download the lastest update that has no FMC fixes in it? GREAT!

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    3 flights today with the FMS. Its unusable unfortunately. It simply doesn't stay on course and deviates from the flight path from waypoint to waypoint.

    The ILS is finicky. The LOC captures very late, just over the glide path in my case, however the DM reader show it is alive 20nm out or so.

    G/S on and off issues with this, seems to drop off sometimes during approach randomly.

    For now a full FMS flight isn't really worth it until a fix and the ILS needs fixing up as well it seems.

    night-flight-tnt.jpg

    Good news is I have had no CTDs on multiple leg flights from both night and day flying. With relatively high settings. On that front she's great.

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    @capt_jonesy same here

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    Mikealpha
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    @ConcordeAG said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

    Another one:

    • Doesn't capture the localizer (V/L), turns away (to the left) into the nirvana
    • If only GSL is selected (while using heading mode, to avoid the above), the same thing happens

    Flightdirector tells the same story, even while trying to do it all manual, the F/D turns you away from the localizer.

    When approaching Minimums the F/D looked alright again, but wasn't keen to re-enable the autopilot to check if it would follow at this point in time.

    I can confirm that, same issue here. Even of the LOC intercept angle is 30 degrees, plane turns away from localizer. Support ticket already opened.

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    @Martyn Great news! I'm happy to learn that you are working to fix the font issue. I have it and it renders the FMC unusable.

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    For those having issues with either the FMC not working or the Font showing larger than it should be could you please try the following file

    https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-s89ff38160e2c4aacaafb2d6a6fe44147

    This needs to go in the following location: \SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_146-100\panel\

    Please do not overwrite the file but either delete or back up the old version first and then place the file from the zip in its place.

    Once done you can then test the font and FMC usage and if you can report back here with the following information.

    1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
    2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
    3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D

    Technical Support

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    ConcordeAG
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    @Craig-Haskell now, the font seems to be fine on my end.
    Thanks!

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    Martyn JF Staff
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    @PVJ said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

    Suggestions:
    4. GSX profile: not sure if its done or only for the PAX but the cargo variant isn't setup right.

    Can you provide some more info on this one? Initial checks show the GSX vehicles showing correctly for the QT/QC variants.

    Martyn - Development Manager

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    @Craig-Haskell sorry file not accessible, limit has been reached. Please send or repost

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    Craig
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    @Oskar3058 I've just tried the link and is working ok for me

    Try this one instead

    https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-saa0832216605435ea1bc74582c14c360

    Technical Support

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    Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

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    Craig
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    @Oskar3058 said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

    Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

    Please could you supply me with the 3 points below:

    1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
    2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
    3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D

    Technical Support

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