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BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues

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    ConcordeAG
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    New observation:

    • FMC only accepts numbers 1-4 when selecting a SID
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      New observation:

      • FMC only accepts numbers 1-4 when selecting a SID
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      Mikealpha
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      @ConcordeAG

      yes, same here. If you have more than four SIDs (or STARs, transitions) listed, only 1-4 are selectable. If you have just four listed (e.g. at EGNX Rwy 09), only 2 are selectable.
      So you need a bit of luck to have those selectable that are needed.

      I have opened a ticket for this already.

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      • ItherI Ither

        SID/STAR not working in latest update--I have nothing for KDEN or KSLC.

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        Martyn
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        @Ither said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

        SID/STAR not working in latest update--I have nothing for KDEN or KSLC.

        Just to confirm, no changes have been made to the FMC in v1.1 or v1.2. Our coder needs to take his time over any changes to avoid introducing new issues due to its complexity.

        Martyn - Development Manager

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          ConcordeAG
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          Another one:

          • Doesn't capture the localizer (V/L), turns away (to the left) into the nirvana
          • If only GSL is selected (while using heading mode, to avoid the above), the same thing happens

          Flightdirector tells the same story, even while trying to do it all manual, the F/D turns you away from the localizer.

          When approaching Minimums the F/D looked alright again, but wasn't keen to re-enable the autopilot to check if it would follow at this point in time.

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            Re-installed a few times still no click spots on FMS to even turn it on. I am wondering if the flight1 GTN750 will work. This is the very first just flight product at launch I have ever had a serious problem with.

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            capt_jonesy
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            @Oskar3058 this is exactly the same issue i am having

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              capt_jonesy
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              v1.02 still unflyable. No FMC click spot. FMC window does not open. Cannot even turn this on. All I am being told in my ticket is to download the lastest update that has no FMC fixes in it? GREAT!

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                3 flights today with the FMS. Its unusable unfortunately. It simply doesn't stay on course and deviates from the flight path from waypoint to waypoint.

                The ILS is finicky. The LOC captures very late, just over the glide path in my case, however the DM reader show it is alive 20nm out or so.

                G/S on and off issues with this, seems to drop off sometimes during approach randomly.

                For now a full FMS flight isn't really worth it until a fix and the ILS needs fixing up as well it seems.

                night-flight-tnt.jpg

                Good news is I have had no CTDs on multiple leg flights from both night and day flying. With relatively high settings. On that front she's great.

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                  v1.02 still unflyable. No FMC click spot. FMC window does not open. Cannot even turn this on. All I am being told in my ticket is to download the lastest update that has no FMC fixes in it? GREAT!

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                  Oskar3058
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                  @capt_jonesy same here

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                    Another one:

                    • Doesn't capture the localizer (V/L), turns away (to the left) into the nirvana
                    • If only GSL is selected (while using heading mode, to avoid the above), the same thing happens

                    Flightdirector tells the same story, even while trying to do it all manual, the F/D turns you away from the localizer.

                    When approaching Minimums the F/D looked alright again, but wasn't keen to re-enable the autopilot to check if it would follow at this point in time.

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                    @ConcordeAG said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                    Another one:

                    • Doesn't capture the localizer (V/L), turns away (to the left) into the nirvana
                    • If only GSL is selected (while using heading mode, to avoid the above), the same thing happens

                    Flightdirector tells the same story, even while trying to do it all manual, the F/D turns you away from the localizer.

                    When approaching Minimums the F/D looked alright again, but wasn't keen to re-enable the autopilot to check if it would follow at this point in time.

                    I can confirm that, same issue here. Even of the LOC intercept angle is 30 degrees, plane turns away from localizer. Support ticket already opened.

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                    • MartynM Martyn

                      We are already looking into the font issue that some people are encountering so no need to report that one. A fix will be made available ASAP.

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                      Flys787
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                      @Martyn Great news! I'm happy to learn that you are working to fix the font issue. I have it and it renders the FMC unusable.

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                        For those having issues with either the FMC not working or the Font showing larger than it should be could you please try the following file

                        https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-s89ff38160e2c4aacaafb2d6a6fe44147

                        This needs to go in the following location: \SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_146-100\panel\

                        Please do not overwrite the file but either delete or back up the old version first and then place the file from the zip in its place.

                        Once done you can then test the font and FMC usage and if you can report back here with the following information.

                        1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
                        2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
                        3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D

                        Technical Support

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                          For those having issues with either the FMC not working or the Font showing larger than it should be could you please try the following file

                          https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-s89ff38160e2c4aacaafb2d6a6fe44147

                          This needs to go in the following location: \SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_146-100\panel\

                          Please do not overwrite the file but either delete or back up the old version first and then place the file from the zip in its place.

                          Once done you can then test the font and FMC usage and if you can report back here with the following information.

                          1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
                          2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
                          3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D
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                          ConcordeAG
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                          @Craig-Haskell now, the font seems to be fine on my end.
                          Thanks!

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                            @Martyn

                            I've done a handful of flights so I'll list down what is reoccurring in addition to the above:

                            1. Trim setting for take off is in the correct green band, however rotation needs significant pull back on the yoke to lift off and a lot of trimming right after to keep the Avro on the right pitch, I get a lot of ballooning because of it, and the elevator on inspection also looks fairly high even though its in the green zone. Have tried with different weights and variants, same issue.
                            2. Quite sensitive to pitching up and down inputs, I will try and adjust my settings but this has not been an issue on the various other Payware addons I own.
                            3. On approach the plane lost the G/S 500ft before landing and the warning "GLIDESLOPE" just kept repeating all the way down with no where to turn it off, no annunciators light up either, it was just audible constantly repeating track till landing.

                            Suggestions:
                            4. GSX profile: not sure if its done or only for the PAX but the cargo variant isn't setup right.
                            5. Cargo door opens like a spring, can that be slowed down?
                            6. The FMS is fairly old and upon page selection in the sim it instantly changes, IRL it takes a second, can this be rendered to be more realistic?
                            7. Short key for the torch effect, really handy tool, just wish it could be assigned to a button.

                            she is still a lot of fun to learn and fly still, will do a YouTube video flight this week.

                            kind regards
                            Philip

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                            @PVJ said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                            Suggestions:
                            4. GSX profile: not sure if its done or only for the PAX but the cargo variant isn't setup right.

                            Can you provide some more info on this one? Initial checks show the GSX vehicles showing correctly for the QT/QC variants.

                            Martyn - Development Manager

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                              For those having issues with either the FMC not working or the Font showing larger than it should be could you please try the following file

                              https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-s89ff38160e2c4aacaafb2d6a6fe44147

                              This needs to go in the following location: \SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_146-100\panel\

                              Please do not overwrite the file but either delete or back up the old version first and then place the file from the zip in its place.

                              Once done you can then test the font and FMC usage and if you can report back here with the following information.

                              1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
                              2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
                              3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D
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                              Oskar3058
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                              @Craig-Haskell sorry file not accessible, limit has been reached. Please send or repost

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                                @Craig-Haskell sorry file not accessible, limit has been reached. Please send or repost

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                                Craig
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                                @Oskar3058 I've just tried the link and is working ok for me

                                Try this one instead

                                https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-saa0832216605435ea1bc74582c14c360

                                Technical Support

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                                  Oskar3058
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                                  Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

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                                    Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

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                                    Craig
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                                    @Oskar3058 said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                                    Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

                                    Please could you supply me with the 3 points below:

                                    1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
                                    2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
                                    3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D

                                    Technical Support

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                                      Oskar3058
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                                      Running as admin yes
                                      Windows version 20h2
                                      P3dv5.12 etc
                                      Also if I put the flight1 GTN750 into the panel. Something in the panel is stopping that being powered up.
                                      I tried it in p3dv5... didn’t work
                                      Updated to 5.1 etc...still not working
                                      I hope that helps

                                      Craig y-s

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                                        ConcordeAG
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                                        @Martyn Regarding the DTO issue, I think I know what the FMC is doing.
                                        It looks like it draws a line from the last passed waypoint to the new waypoint. Can work, but mostly creates an issue. Especially if you're doing two directs in sequence.

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                                          Elientje
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                                          I don't want to be too quick in my opinion of the last update. But what I noticed is that with at TO weight well below limits en the aircraft well trimmed and configured, taking off was impossible this time. The aircraft stuck to the runway till there was no runway left. What I noticed as well, but only in a glance, so correct me if wrong, it seems the heading selector is again connected to the Course on the HSI. At least this time I could talk to the ATC while crashing.

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