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BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues

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  • C ConcordeAG

    Another one:

    • Doesn't capture the localizer (V/L), turns away (to the left) into the nirvana
    • If only GSL is selected (while using heading mode, to avoid the above), the same thing happens

    Flightdirector tells the same story, even while trying to do it all manual, the F/D turns you away from the localizer.

    When approaching Minimums the F/D looked alright again, but wasn't keen to re-enable the autopilot to check if it would follow at this point in time.

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    Mikealpha
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    @ConcordeAG said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

    Another one:

    • Doesn't capture the localizer (V/L), turns away (to the left) into the nirvana
    • If only GSL is selected (while using heading mode, to avoid the above), the same thing happens

    Flightdirector tells the same story, even while trying to do it all manual, the F/D turns you away from the localizer.

    When approaching Minimums the F/D looked alright again, but wasn't keen to re-enable the autopilot to check if it would follow at this point in time.

    I can confirm that, same issue here. Even of the LOC intercept angle is 30 degrees, plane turns away from localizer. Support ticket already opened.

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    • MartynM Martyn

      We are already looking into the font issue that some people are encountering so no need to report that one. A fix will be made available ASAP.

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      Flys787
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      @Martyn Great news! I'm happy to learn that you are working to fix the font issue. I have it and it renders the FMC unusable.

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        For those having issues with either the FMC not working or the Font showing larger than it should be could you please try the following file

        https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-s89ff38160e2c4aacaafb2d6a6fe44147

        This needs to go in the following location: \SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_146-100\panel\

        Please do not overwrite the file but either delete or back up the old version first and then place the file from the zip in its place.

        Once done you can then test the font and FMC usage and if you can report back here with the following information.

        1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
        2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
        3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D

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        • CraigC Craig

          For those having issues with either the FMC not working or the Font showing larger than it should be could you please try the following file

          https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-s89ff38160e2c4aacaafb2d6a6fe44147

          This needs to go in the following location: \SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_146-100\panel\

          Please do not overwrite the file but either delete or back up the old version first and then place the file from the zip in its place.

          Once done you can then test the font and FMC usage and if you can report back here with the following information.

          1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
          2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
          3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D
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          ConcordeAG
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          @Craig-Haskell now, the font seems to be fine on my end.
          Thanks!

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          • P PVJ

            @Martyn

            I've done a handful of flights so I'll list down what is reoccurring in addition to the above:

            1. Trim setting for take off is in the correct green band, however rotation needs significant pull back on the yoke to lift off and a lot of trimming right after to keep the Avro on the right pitch, I get a lot of ballooning because of it, and the elevator on inspection also looks fairly high even though its in the green zone. Have tried with different weights and variants, same issue.
            2. Quite sensitive to pitching up and down inputs, I will try and adjust my settings but this has not been an issue on the various other Payware addons I own.
            3. On approach the plane lost the G/S 500ft before landing and the warning "GLIDESLOPE" just kept repeating all the way down with no where to turn it off, no annunciators light up either, it was just audible constantly repeating track till landing.

            Suggestions:
            4. GSX profile: not sure if its done or only for the PAX but the cargo variant isn't setup right.
            5. Cargo door opens like a spring, can that be slowed down?
            6. The FMS is fairly old and upon page selection in the sim it instantly changes, IRL it takes a second, can this be rendered to be more realistic?
            7. Short key for the torch effect, really handy tool, just wish it could be assigned to a button.

            she is still a lot of fun to learn and fly still, will do a YouTube video flight this week.

            kind regards
            Philip

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            @PVJ said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

            Suggestions:
            4. GSX profile: not sure if its done or only for the PAX but the cargo variant isn't setup right.

            Can you provide some more info on this one? Initial checks show the GSX vehicles showing correctly for the QT/QC variants.

            Martyn - Development Manager

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            • CraigC Craig

              For those having issues with either the FMC not working or the Font showing larger than it should be could you please try the following file

              https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-s89ff38160e2c4aacaafb2d6a6fe44147

              This needs to go in the following location: \SimObjects\Airplanes\JF_146-100\panel\

              Please do not overwrite the file but either delete or back up the old version first and then place the file from the zip in its place.

              Once done you can then test the font and FMC usage and if you can report back here with the following information.

              1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
              2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
              3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D
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              Oskar3058
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              @Craig-Haskell sorry file not accessible, limit has been reached. Please send or repost

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                @Craig-Haskell sorry file not accessible, limit has been reached. Please send or repost

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                Craig
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                @Oskar3058 I've just tried the link and is working ok for me

                Try this one instead

                https://justflight.sharefile.com/d-saa0832216605435ea1bc74582c14c360

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                  Oskar3058
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                  Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

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                    Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

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                    @Oskar3058 said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                    Link works thx however just tried the 146 again and problem still persists. No power or pop up of fms. It’s a strange one

                    Please could you supply me with the 3 points below:

                    1. are you running P3D as an administrator?
                    2. Which Edition and version of Windows are you running?
                    3. What is the full version number of P3D you are using? (this can be found in your add/remove programs of Help>About in P3D

                    Technical Support

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                      Oskar3058
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                      Running as admin yes
                      Windows version 20h2
                      P3dv5.12 etc
                      Also if I put the flight1 GTN750 into the panel. Something in the panel is stopping that being powered up.
                      I tried it in p3dv5... didn’t work
                      Updated to 5.1 etc...still not working
                      I hope that helps

                      Craig y-s

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                        ConcordeAG
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                        @Martyn Regarding the DTO issue, I think I know what the FMC is doing.
                        It looks like it draws a line from the last passed waypoint to the new waypoint. Can work, but mostly creates an issue. Especially if you're doing two directs in sequence.

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                          Elientje
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                          I don't want to be too quick in my opinion of the last update. But what I noticed is that with at TO weight well below limits en the aircraft well trimmed and configured, taking off was impossible this time. The aircraft stuck to the runway till there was no runway left. What I noticed as well, but only in a glance, so correct me if wrong, it seems the heading selector is again connected to the Course on the HSI. At least this time I could talk to the ATC while crashing.

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                            I don't want to be too quick in my opinion of the last update. But what I noticed is that with at TO weight well below limits en the aircraft well trimmed and configured, taking off was impossible this time. The aircraft stuck to the runway till there was no runway left. What I noticed as well, but only in a glance, so correct me if wrong, it seems the heading selector is again connected to the Course on the HSI. At least this time I could talk to the ATC while crashing.

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                            Jumbolino
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                            @Elientje This information is a little bit vague to determine an issue with takeoff performance. Do you have the following details?


                            -Aircraft TOW
                            -N1% Ref used
                            -V-speeds used
                            -Flap setting
                            -Runway length
                            -Runway elevation
                            -Temperature
                            -Wind component
                            -Pressure setting
                            -Anti Ice On/Off**

                            It's impossible to make an analysis on the take off performance without the above as a minimum.

                            Regards,

                            JL

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                              I don't want to be too quick in my opinion of the last update. But what I noticed is that with at TO weight well below limits en the aircraft well trimmed and configured, taking off was impossible this time. The aircraft stuck to the runway till there was no runway left. What I noticed as well, but only in a glance, so correct me if wrong, it seems the heading selector is again connected to the Course on the HSI. At least this time I could talk to the ATC while crashing.

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                              @Elientje Please note that the change log covers all the changes in each update. If something is not listed as fixed/changed then it's still being worked on.

                              Martyn - Development Manager

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                                Martyn
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                                The v1.3 update is now available - https://support.justflight.com/en/support/solutions/articles/17000111833-146-professional-changelog

                                Martyn - Development Manager

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                                • JumbolinoJ Jumbolino

                                  @Elientje This information is a little bit vague to determine an issue with takeoff performance. Do you have the following details?


                                  -Aircraft TOW
                                  -N1% Ref used
                                  -V-speeds used
                                  -Flap setting
                                  -Runway length
                                  -Runway elevation
                                  -Temperature
                                  -Wind component
                                  -Pressure setting
                                  -Anti Ice On/Off**

                                  It's impossible to make an analysis on the take off performance without the above as a minimum.

                                  Regards,

                                  JL

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                                  Elientje
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                                  @Jumbolino No, I didn't gather this information. I will try this take-off again and see how the aircraft performs. When the same happens, I will give the requested information.

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                                    ConcordeAG
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                                    Can we maybe split the topic? Performance etc. isn't really related to FMS/AP issues 🙂

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                                      Craig
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                                      Those that have been having issues with the FMC, could they please confirm by way of reply to this message if they were asked for the account details originally when installing v1.00?

                                      Technical Support

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                                      • CraigC Craig

                                        Those that have been having issues with the FMC, could they please confirm by way of reply to this message if they were asked for the account details originally when installing v1.00?

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                                        morganthomas757
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                                        @Craig yes I was asked the first time, but after uninstalling and reinstalling the new updates I was t

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                                        • CraigC Craig

                                          Those that have been having issues with the FMC, could they please confirm by way of reply to this message if they were asked for the account details originally when installing v1.00?

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                                          ConcordeAG
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                                          @Craig said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                                          could they please confirm by way of reply to this message

                                          Yes, I was asked to login - Like with other justflight installers.

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