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    JGreen5278
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    Hello unfortunately do not have any internal sounds in any of the variants.

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      JGreen5278
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      Disregard everyone! Reboot resolved issues. Thanks for the quick approval!

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        MichaelMacKuen
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        Same experience here. Flew the Avanti P.180 over the weekend. And then installed the CaravanPro today (Tuesday). No sound in the cockpits. Tried the BS Turbine Duke and same quiet. Rebooted the computer and restarted the simulator and all was good. Looks like the same phenomenon reported for the Starship.

        Probably wants fixing. Not all users will either get lucky or go to the forums.

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          i am on fs'20 still. i have the avanti p180 as well. i can hear the sounds but this doesn't seem like boris's best work. the sound of the engine inside the cockpit is so muffled. changes in power and prop pitch don't sound great. when i enter into beta, there's the typical tearing sound but if i go into full beta there really isn't any difference. all-in-all i am pretty disappointed with this soundset. maybe my expectations were too high but this really misses the mark, imo.

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            Paul in Keighley
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            Yeah, I'm still struggling a bit with the sounds. I have reinstalled more than once to check something hadn't gone wonky but to no avail. The sounds are working, it's just in the cockpit is disturbingly quiet, it's as if the engine noise has been mixed really low compared with other sounds. Have checked every setting I can think of but not found anything wrong. Maybe it's just me but I think I'll have to play with the in game volume settings and drop everything else down while leaving the engines at 100.

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              Yeah, I'm still struggling a bit with the sounds. I have reinstalled more than once to check something hadn't gone wonky but to no avail. The sounds are working, it's just in the cockpit is disturbingly quiet, it's as if the engine noise has been mixed really low compared with other sounds. Have checked every setting I can think of but not found anything wrong. Maybe it's just me but I think I'll have to play with the in game volume settings and drop everything else down while leaving the engines at 100.

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              @Paul-in-Keighley I assume you don't also have the Piaggio P.180 installed? This seems to be the symptom I am hearing from others with this strange incompatibility we just discovered with the Piaggio's and all Boris' other sound packages.

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                No, don't have the Piaggio at all. The only Boris sound pack I have is for the 2020 version of the PMDG 737 which I use in 2024 but I've not touched that sinced buying the Caravan bundle. Some people have reported no sound but that doesn't apply to me, the sound is there its just the in cockpit engine sound level that's very quiet. If I open the window it's as loud as you'd expect.

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                  No, don't have the Piaggio at all. The only Boris sound pack I have is for the 2020 version of the PMDG 737 which I use in 2024 but I've not touched that sinced buying the Caravan bundle. Some people have reported no sound but that doesn't apply to me, the sound is there its just the in cockpit engine sound level that's very quiet. If I open the window it's as loud as you'd expect.

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                  @Paul-in-Keighley Thanks for the information. Obviously, that shouldn't be the case. You say, "disturbingly quiet", and I've seen others say "like a glider". Clearly something is wrong. We've never seen this with any of my other aircraft, but it's difficult for me to diagnose with this very poorly timed Piaggio mixup. If you were willing to help us diagnose the problem, I would be most interested to hear if there is any difference with no other aircraft in your community folder, and if not, perhaps a short video recording to show us what you are experiencing.

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                    Paul in Keighley
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                    Just done a little experiment, turned off FS Realistic+ completely to eliminate that and dropped all MSFS sound levels to 50 apart from engines. This has noticeably improved things when airborne, dropping them to 25 would likely make things even better. I tried changing the sound output type device to TV, hi fi etc but that didn't seem to make any difference whatsover, I use an old Bose soundbar. So it seems to me that it's just a sound level thing but perhaps the Caravan has better sound insulation than other aircraft. I did think that the cargo version was louder but my mind may be playing tricks. Will have a play with that and report back. I am noticing a handful of others finding issues with sound over on the MSFS forum but there can't be a major problem as I'm sure we would be seeing a load more posts. Yeah, bit of a strange one, can't recall any other aircraft having a similar issue.

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                      @Paul-in-Keighley Thanks for the information. Obviously, that shouldn't be the case. You say, "disturbingly quiet", and I've seen others say "like a glider". Clearly something is wrong. We've never seen this with any of my other aircraft, but it's difficult for me to diagnose with this very poorly timed Piaggio mixup. If you were willing to help us diagnose the problem, I would be most interested to hear if there is any difference with no other aircraft in your community folder, and if not, perhaps a short video recording to show us what you are experiencing.

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                      @Black-Square i am happy to help as well. please let me know if there's something specific you want me to test. in my case, all the sounds aside from the engine sound fine. switches, alarms, etc. sound just as crisp as all your other planes. the engine sounds from the cockpit are very muffled.

                      i am on fs'20. i do own the flightfx piaggio however i have not updated the plane to it's latest version and haven't flown it in quite some time.

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                        @Black-Square i am happy to help as well. please let me know if there's something specific you want me to test. in my case, all the sounds aside from the engine sound fine. switches, alarms, etc. sound just as crisp as all your other planes. the engine sounds from the cockpit are very muffled.

                        i am on fs'20. i do own the flightfx piaggio however i have not updated the plane to it's latest version and haven't flown it in quite some time.

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                        @scoobyx Thanks for weighing in. Since you've been very vocal about your disappointment, I would be interested to hear what you're listening to, and see if it differs at all from what I can hear on my own computer. Clearly, I would not have released an aircraft with April Fools sounds, so I do wonder if there is some deeper problem at play here than personal taste. I'm worried that I will hear no difference between our two installations, but I suppose that's important data in itself, if you're willing to share a video.

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                          Jannik Stein
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                          I also think the sounds were pretty quiet compared to other planes, but I didn’t see it as an issue. I do have the Piaggio installed, I’ll remove it this evening and check^^

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                            @scoobyx Thanks for weighing in. Since you've been very vocal about your disappointment, I would be interested to hear what you're listening to, and see if it differs at all from what I can hear on my own computer. Clearly, I would not have released an aircraft with April Fools sounds, so I do wonder if there is some deeper problem at play here than personal taste. I'm worried that I will hear no difference between our two installations, but I suppose that's important data in itself, if you're willing to share a video.

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                            scoobyx
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                            @Black-Square let me work on putting a video together. I'll report back when it's ready.

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                              @Black-Square let me work on putting a video together. I'll report back when it's ready.

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                              @scoobyx Thanks for lending a hand. I know just recording a simple video can be a pain if you're not used to doing it. I record all my own videos for the Just Flight YouTube channel, and I still hardly know what to do if someone asked me for a video.

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                                Paul in Keighley
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                                Have tested the cargo variant engine sound level against the passenger one and it seems the same to my cloth ears. Dropped all volume levels to 20 apart from engine sounds and this has fixed things for me inasmuch as it sounds like I would expect it to in the cockpit (which may or may not be accurate but its sounds "right" to me). I'll continue to keep an eye open for other posts on this subject in case it's not just a user preference thing. Thanks for the aircraft by the way, it's been a worthwhile wait!

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                                  Hi. I'd also like to report that I had the no sound/very very quiet sound two times. I first thought it was related to sound devices as it seemed to happen when I quit/restarted the PimaxPlay client. I had originally selected "default" as sound devices in MSFS2024 as it has seemed to be the best option since Pimax sound device is only present when PimaxPlay is running. It gets removed when the software is stopped. Since I changed the sound devices to Pimax in MSFS2024 I haven't had the sound problem with Caravan. And yes, I have the Piaggio installed. I can't of course say for sure this was the issue, because it's only been few sessions and few flights but so far it looks like it fixed.

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                                    friendly reminder to turn off loudness limiter in msfs2024 sound settings. Just thought I'd throw it in here

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                                      nippa
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                                      It is possible to fly with sounds after a reinstall or restart ; but not every time.
                                      The fault affects other BlackSquare aircraft like the Turbo Duke and changing sound settings has no effect.
                                      After some restarts ( and I mean some ) the Caravan will start perfectly but without a further restart other aircraft are affected in the same way ... no engine sound.
                                      The FFX Avanti seems to be higlighted as a main source of conflict but I'm not too sure. Having flown the Avanti and then restarted the sim to fly the Caravan there was no sound. A further restart and the Caravan started normally.
                                      I expected glitches but it's not often we see one addon aircraft afecting so many others. I'm sure it will be fixed but until then it wont be used.

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                                        @scoobyx Thanks for lending a hand. I know just recording a simple video can be a pain if you're not used to doing it. I record all my own videos for the Just Flight YouTube channel, and I still hardly know what to do if someone asked me for a video.

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                                        @Black-Square here is the video i pulled together. it's sectioned off by some time in the caravan pro cockpit, then the turbine duke cockpit, and finally the analog caravan cockpit using the ftsim+ sounds. Please excuse the beginner-level editing and lack of adherence to checklists. I'll repair my engines prior to my next flights, I promise.

                                        https://youtu.be/bd6q7eGjazo

                                        I wanted to try to pull together a small sample of sounds that might help me compose some more meaningful thoughts to give you.

                                        I realize sounds are super subjective so take this feedback as you please. The engine sounds on the new caravan pro sound much quieter to me, especially at the ends of the throttle (at idle, it sounds like there's a cabin fan running in the background, not an engine) and at max power it just feels like it's missing that throaty roar that you get out of the other two soundscapes. It just feels like it lacks depth and purpose.

                                        I was also noticing that there was almost no difference when moving the condition lever from low to high or back in the new caravan pro. There should be something more going on here, right?

                                        Something seems off with the beta / reverse thrust but since my IRL piloting experience is limited to single-engine pistons, I don't have real-world experience to base this off of. It just sounds thin and not throaty like I would expect.

                                        Honestly, now that I am reading back through this it sounds to me like the entire engine soundscape is lacking bass and depth. That's the best way I could describe my experience.

                                        I hope this helps. I am happy to do more testing / sampling / whatever if it would help you. Also, as an aside I initially started up my sim, uninstalled the FlightFX Piaggio and restarted the sim prior to collecting these samples. I don't think that causes an issue on '20 but I wanted to eliminate it from the board just in case.

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                                          I think that I may have solved my sound issues by switching from the Nvidia 27E1QA sound to the RealTek driver.
                                          Early days but it seems to allow switching aircraft while preserving the aircraft sounds.

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