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    @jmarkows There have been no technical changes, unfortunately. We are still discussing it on the developer forums.

    @batkizoltan Similarly, I hope you won't take this message the wrong way, because I'm not trying to argue with a fan. I just don't want anyone to think that I'm being anything less than forthcoming.

    When you look at the screenshots for all of those passenger mods on FlightSim.to, you will notice that they do not include screenshots of the copilot's extremities. The passengers are a little more manageable in my aircraft, but the copilot's legs and knees tend to be the major problem. However, what appears in these mods would be acceptable to me, so long as my users who were offended by the characters had the option to disable them. That's really what I'm waiting for here. Whenever I have been faced with a binary decision for a contentious feature, I always err on the side of its absence, rather than inclusion. That's just a personal design philosophy. In this case, I think it's easier to pine for friendly passengers, than to be repulsed by their mandatory inclusion.

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    @Black-Square apologies, I meant for the people who care about having passengers.

    I understand that Asobo hasn't fixed developer control and that you won't implement anything until you're satisfied with the result.

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      @Black-Square apologies, I meant for the people who care about having passengers.

      I understand that Asobo hasn't fixed developer control and that you won't implement anything until you're satisfied with the result.

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      @jmarkows Ah, sorry about that misunderstanding. You've been a frequent flyer here for long enough that hopefully you know that I'm never frustrated with anyone, though. Or, at least it's very rare πŸ™‚

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        I agree with Zoli. I truly miss visible pax from the Caravan. It's not the end of the world; one can always "imagine" things, and I understand the constraints developers need to work with; however, other devs successfully overcome the challenges. Got Friends, A2A, Carenado, Simworks Studios, just to name a few. I'd love Nick to find a way and implement this feature in the future, especially for the Caravan, which is big enough to scream for pax models. The empty interior looks weird. I hope it will be considered.

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          I agree with Zoli. I truly miss visible pax from the Caravan. It's not the end of the world; one can always "imagine" things, and I understand the constraints developers need to work with; however, other devs successfully overcome the challenges. Got Friends, A2A, Carenado, Simworks Studios, just to name a few. I'd love Nick to find a way and implement this feature in the future, especially for the Caravan, which is big enough to scream for pax models. The empty interior looks weird. I hope it will be considered.

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          @kityatyi a2a had to make their own pax.

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            kityatyi
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            Nothing wrong with that.

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              MiRexer
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              I modified BlueBear's passenger mod to work in the piston Dukes (trying to get in touch with him to give it to him so he can release it). I tried to make one for the Caravan but no luck so far.

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                I modified BlueBear's passenger mod to work in the piston Dukes (trying to get in touch with him to give it to him so he can release it). I tried to make one for the Caravan but no luck so far.

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                @MiRexer If you do get in touch, please invite him to contact me here or through the Just Flight Support team. If Asobo continues to deny our requests on the developer forums, a well supported community mod might be one way forward. Anyone who has labored to improve the experience of our fellow Black Square pilots deserves a heartfelt thank-you, if nothing else!

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                  I'm trying to get it to work on the Caravan but nothings appearing.

                  (deleted all this because Bluebear released the Caravan mod πŸ™‚ )

                  I am in touch with Bluebear on flightsim.to and I told him you'd love to talk with him. He will be releasing the Piston Duke passenger mod as well πŸ™‚

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                    When I first got the Caravan, I had the avatar from MSFS2020, I thought she was a perfect fit. Since then, I redownloaded the Caravan, reinstalled and now she is gone. I liked her, we had many conversations throughout our time together and now she is gone. Sad captain is sad now.

                    On a serious note. If the new avatars stick out of panels and whatnot, I'm glad you opted to not have them. However, I am also looking forward to a mod from Bluebear. I have them for the other Black Square aircraft and they are excellent.

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                      Talked with Bluebear. Caravan mod coming soon, he's been having trouble uploading it πŸ™‚

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                        It's out now.

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                          kityatyi
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                          https://flightsim.to/addon/106248/black-square-caravan-professional-variants-passenger-mod-for-fs2024

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                            and https://flightsim.to/addon/106247/black-square-caravan-professional-passenger-mod-for-fs2024

                            πŸ™‚

                            Screenshot 2026-03-22 213405.jpg

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                              batkizoltan
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                              Wonderful accessory! Thank you very much

                              Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Screenshot 2026.03.23 - 08.20.26.86.png

                              Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 Screenshot 2026.03.23 - 08.09.10.65.jpg

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                                Good morning,

                                I installed the passenger mod, however, only the co-pilot shows up when I load seats on the standard MSFS loading manager. No passenger in the back show up. Can anyone think of something I have missed ?
                                Also, the pilot never shows up on the outside view. An that's since the first installation of the Caravn pro. Any idea that could help me ?
                                Thank you all.

                                Souheil

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                                  Good morning,

                                  I installed the passenger mod, however, only the co-pilot shows up when I load seats on the standard MSFS loading manager. No passenger in the back show up. Can anyone think of something I have missed ?
                                  Also, the pilot never shows up on the outside view. An that's since the first installation of the Caravn pro. Any idea that could help me ?
                                  Thank you all.

                                  Souheil

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                                  andyW2025
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                                  @s.mellah I have the same problem. Only co pilot shows with mod installed. I haven’t had a chance to troubleshoot yet, but I will start my attempt by disabling chaseplane perhaps. Do you use that? If so, can you confirm whether that might be the culprit?

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                                    MiRexer
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                                    My guess is your using the black square efb. Go to the Microsoft mass and balance section and add your passengers there.

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                                      My guess is your using the black square efb. Go to the Microsoft mass and balance section and add your passengers there.

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                                      @MiRexer hi there. I personally tried the Microsoft EFB and then also tried the Blacksquare tablet + a range of different combinations and no passengers show, just the copilots.

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                                        MiRexer
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                                        There are two different mods based on the variants - did you install the right one?

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                                          There are two different mods based on the variants - did you install the right one?

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                                          andyW2025
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                                          @MiRexer thanks for the suggestions. Yes I double checked that also. I actually have both mods installed as have the caravan bundle. Same issue in all cases 😞

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