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VOR Stations as WPTs in FLT PLN?

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  • MarkSM MarkS

    @OrionNZ I have been able to add the two-letter NZ VORs to a flight plan in the CDU. They appear at the end of the list of duplicates, so you need to scroll.

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    @MarkS Ah-ha. That’s exactly the kind of information I was hoping for. I suspected that might be the case, but didn’t want to guess while I’m away from my desk. I will still look into it when I get home, just to make sure there isn’t any unexpected behavior.

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      @OrionNZ I have been able to add the two-letter NZ VORs to a flight plan in the CDU. They appear at the end of the list of duplicates, so you need to scroll.

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      @MarkS Please provide a little more information regarding what you are actually entering into the CDU to obtain the VOR stations as WPT's. As I mentioned it was highly likely a data entry error on my part, but also that if I simply enter 'OH' as a waypoint (or any NZ VOR) and hit enter - nothing happens at all. I don't get a list of 'duplicates' to choose from - would have been pretty easy to find if I had! lol.

      In the attached examples, I have originated a flight at NZWN, tried to enter OH as the next WP - enter = nothing. Also tried a flight NZWN-NZAA, then insert OH as a WP - still nothing.OH_1.png OH_2.png

      Do I need to append something to the ID name? Possibly a Navigraph data problem?

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        EDIT:
        Just as a little more data - I even tried using the joystick and panning over to WB VOR (115.6) and hitting enter on MFD. Got "WB BAD DATA" As per pic below.
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          @MarkS Please provide a little more information regarding what you are actually entering into the CDU to obtain the VOR stations as WPT's. As I mentioned it was highly likely a data entry error on my part, but also that if I simply enter 'OH' as a waypoint (or any NZ VOR) and hit enter - nothing happens at all. I don't get a list of 'duplicates' to choose from - would have been pretty easy to find if I had! lol.

          In the attached examples, I have originated a flight at NZWN, tried to enter OH as the next WP - enter = nothing. Also tried a flight NZWN-NZAA, then insert OH as a WP - still nothing.OH_1.png OH_2.png

          Do I need to append something to the ID name? Possibly a Navigraph data problem?

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          @OrionNZ said in VOR Stations as WPTs in FLT PLN?:

          Please provide a little more information regarding what you are actually entering into the CDU to obtain the VOR stations as WPT's.

          I’m afraid I don’t have much more information than that. I’m on version 1.2 of Starship in MSFS 2024. I have a Navigraph subscription. And I don’t think it matters, but the last time I “updated” the nav database from the floppy, I selected the NAN (North America Not) database, as I’m currently flying in Europe. Beyond that, it’s no different than entering other VORs save for the 3rd character; I’m just T9-keying in the two characters and hitting the Enter button.

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            @OrionNZ said in VOR Stations as WPTs in FLT PLN?:

            Please provide a little more information regarding what you are actually entering into the CDU to obtain the VOR stations as WPT's.

            I’m afraid I don’t have much more information than that. I’m on version 1.2 of Starship in MSFS 2024. I have a Navigraph subscription. And I don’t think it matters, but the last time I “updated” the nav database from the floppy, I selected the NAN (North America Not) database, as I’m currently flying in Europe. Beyond that, it’s no different than entering other VORs save for the 3rd character; I’m just T9-keying in the two characters and hitting the Enter button.

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            @MarkS Hmm OK. I might try some floppy disk updates maybe. Because yea I am just entering the two characters, hitting enter and nothing changes at all. The strange thing is I can enter WN (112.3 tuned on RTU) for example in the position update field and hit enter, and bam it has no problem finding the WN VOR in the CDU to use for a position update?

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              I wouldn’t get too caught up in the floppy disk updates - Nick mentioned that has no practical effect, all it does it reset a timer to prompt you to update again in X number of days. It’s just there for the immersion of having to do the data updates.

              When I’m off work I’ll try some of those VORs and see what happens. I also use Navigraph.

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                @OrionNZ - I loaded into the Starship after work and it seems to be working the same way for me as it does @MarkS . I'm currently at ENBR, but started a new plan from NZAA and the next waypoint was set up as Wellington, HN. There were 10 other duplicates that showed and it was #10 on the list since it's the furthest away from my present position. I was able to load it in fine though. I wish I could help more with figuring out why they aren't working for you.

                Selecting the HN VOR:
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                Final flight plan with a variety of NZ VORs (ignore the huge distances, PPOS is literally the other side of the world ☺)
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                  @OrionNZ - any chance you have a non-Navigraph nav add-on installed? I know there's a shareware/payware with New Zealand NDBs available on fsto and SimMarket. Usually it's the Navigraph database that ends up stepping on the others though.

                  Can you create that flight plan with the "bad" VORs in a different aircraft?

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                    Hi folks - thank you for all the help...got it sorted!

                    Was looking like it might be some sort of navdata problem my side. Just have Navigraph installed and nothing else to do with navigation. Trying to add NZ VOR stations to a route works fine in the 310 and Fenix A320, and shows all VORs I have tried. However I couldn't add any VORs in the FSR500, Default Caravan or the Citation X. Was pretty confusing that nav data only available to some aircraft and not others, so decided to just disable the Navigraph packages as per below....and now works fine!

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                      I wonder if it will still work if you reinstall Navigraph. I have the latest AIRAC installed through the Navigraph hub and it works fine. Maybe something didn’t install properly the first time?

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