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Love the sound, but need headphones shortcut!

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  • RandolfR Offline
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    Randolf
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    #5

    MSFS has a built-in headphone simulation option under General Options -> Sound, which works OK-ish 🙂
    And if you're using P42 Flow, you can turn it on/off without having to pause the flight to access settings.

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      syff
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      Unfortunately the MSFS in-build toggle-command for "headphone-simulation" on/off does not work since they implemented this feature. Even with SU15 the disfunctional toggle-shortcut was not fixed. You have to switch it on and off via the menu in MSFS. From what I`ve seen from P42 you also have to go into a menu (flow) to switch between states. I find this complicated too.

      As I m a VR-only user, my solution on this (a more extended one):
      I used the external software "VoiceAttack" and configured voice commands to control volumes. For example when spelling "sim volume down" the windows volume level of MSFS and also other programs like FSRealistic (which by the way is not affected by the MSFS headphone simulation) are set to 30%. The command "sim volume up" restores the volume level to 100 of both components. Did the same for different volume levels I wish and also for my music playing ( saying ..."music volume down" etc)
      VoiceAttack is independent of MSFS and you can control many things with it.

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        brennan
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        For an example of how it's done well (imo) look at the Lear35 from FSW - there it's on the tablet which is really not ideal but makes the a/c tolerable for long distance - really mutes the high freq whine from invertors? which is a vicious burrowing earworm 🙂

        My personal pref would be to a). click on the headphone jack socket and just add a visual marker that it's engaged and b). an LVAR to enable binding via h/w.

        Currently on both turbine and piston, but esp. piston I have to use my windows audio panel to attenuate the sim during climb and then put it back again before landing. Really breaks the immersion for me and sound is such a HUGE factor in my enjoyment of any a/c.

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          Cristi
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          I really like how A2A did it in their Comanche, you have headphones for a bit of muffling and then a noise cancellation button to further down the noises. It's amazing how good that works

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            I really like how A2A did it in their Comanche, you have headphones for a bit of muffling and then a noise cancellation button to further down the noises. It's amazing how good that works

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            fabristunt
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            @Cristi I agree, that is a very handy clickspot.
            It would be great to have something similar in the Duke and TBM.

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              Black Square Developer
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              I have already implemented headphone cables and clickspot in all of my standalone aircraft, and you are able to adjust the amount of active noise cancellation by scrolling your mouse wheel on the clickspot (there is also a variable for cockpit builders). I apologize that it has taken this long for an update to the Dukes, but I thought MSFS 2024 compatibility would be a relatively easy task to be done soon after it was released. Alas, the goalpost is still receding with SU2, but I promise that I will have something for you soon.

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              • Black SquareB Black Square

                I have already implemented headphone cables and clickspot in all of my standalone aircraft, and you are able to adjust the amount of active noise cancellation by scrolling your mouse wheel on the clickspot (there is also a variable for cockpit builders). I apologize that it has taken this long for an update to the Dukes, but I thought MSFS 2024 compatibility would be a relatively easy task to be done soon after it was released. Alas, the goalpost is still receding with SU2, but I promise that I will have something for you soon.

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                Cristi
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                @Black-Square this implementation will be available in the next update or it's currently present?

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                  Black Square Developer
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  The next update, along with MSFS 2024 compatibility.

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                    Mustang
                    wrote on last edited by Mustang
                    #13

                    I recently turned on the headphones simulation in 2020 through the menus, but I actually didn't like it (certainly in comparison with the Comanche's custom implementation). So while I am excited for the next Duke update, I'm cautiously interested to see whether the variable noise cancellation (great idea!) works quite as well or if I'll prefer it switched off.

                    I think I have become accustomed to the volume of the Duke in cruise now. It's when switching to the external view for screenshots that my ear drums are assaulted! 😃 I know it's realistic, but it would nice if the internal/external volume could be better balanced for my own sake, and that of anyone in earshot! Not sure if it could be handled via the tablet, or if it's baked into the simulation (perhaps a .cfg file edit). Maybe another idea for the list.

                    I know the 2020 Duke update won't launch before the 2024 update is ready, as that might cause chaos and frustration, but at this point I'm cursing 2024 for dragging general progress down for 2020 products 😉

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                      bobsk8
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                      #14

                      Can't wait for this update. Flying the Turbine Duke in MS 2020 and the engines are so loud... Been a year since this was first discussed.

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                        Dingle
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                        @Black-Square Did you find a solution to tune it with legacy mode, or will it be lock mode exclusive?

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                          jmarkows
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                          Don't see why it would be lock mode exclusive, it works just fine in Legacy mode on the Starship now.

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                            Dingle
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                            @jmarkows oh, I thought it's just on and off now. I still thought you cannot tune the level of ANS.

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                              #18

                              In Legacy mode the click spots are on the left and right of the headphone jack to adjust the noise cancelation instead of scrolling in the middle, but it works.

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                                Dingle
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                                Nice, I didn't know that. Sweet. Thanks

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                                  bobsk8
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                                  I found that if you adjust the engine sound in MSFS to around 20% with the Turbine Duke, the engine sound in the cockpit is good and you even hear the turbine sound.

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