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  • djw4250D Offline
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    @Black-Square that's OK. I thought that at least you might be intrigued to see what is involved from this end of things. I started from a place of complete ignorance as you may well have noticed in my first post. I have not discovered any way of cutting and pasting any code in to SPAD at all. There may be ways but as yet I don't see it. There's a functionality they call "SRIPTING" but I got bogged down in there.
    Anyway it seems to be working although I haven't yet completed the settings for the Auto/Manual deicing switch. Confidence is high.
    Regarding your work, I truly do admire your high level of "performance", your outstanding commitment and the excellence of your products.
    Thank you too for your offer of ongoing support and encouragement.
    I am curious about your "Old School" set up . At 74 years of age I would've thought that title would be reserved for me. Please tell me about your rig if you have some time.
    Kind regards
    David

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    Sorry this has been so much work for you. I wish I could supply something that worked for every hardware and software combination, but everyone wants something a little different. It's also difficult enough as it is to avoid conflicts with all the popular hardware just as they come out of the box. The Honeycomb products have proven particularly difficult on the developer side.

    I wanted to send this to you days ago, but I couldn't find it again when I went looking. I don't think many people know that this exists and can be helpful for anyone with any software. It's a community driven repository of aircraft controls on Mobiflight's website. I have even less experience with Mobiflight; however, if you can import some of these "presets" or enter code directly, you might find it more useful than SPAD.

    I'm ashamed to say this publicly, lest I draw the ire of those with more complex setups and the developer, but I've been using the same Saitek X52 for 20 years now. I like to keep my things in good condition, so I've never really considered purchasing anything else. I've always been very low maintenance when it comes to such things, I suppose.

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    No, not at all! It's been a great discovery adventure for me.
    Yes, the honeycomb stuff does seem difficult, especially, for me anyway, the Autopilot setup.
    I have puzzled over why I couldn't find such a thing as a repository. Cheers, I have saved the URL in my Favorites.
    You have the X52 and I still use my original Saitek Pro Flight Yoke!
    You might be relieved to hear that all my switches are working. I can start my sim "Cold and Dark" for the first time in years. Very nice. Thanks for your friendly help.
    Very, very much appreciated.

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    replied to djw4250 on last edited by RoughLandings
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    @djw4250, I love this procedure you have written up! I am saving a copy for future reference.

    One thing I have figured out is that "Button Pressed" and "Button Released" function the same as "Switched On" and "Switched Off" in Spad. So if you have a toggle switch that is configured as two "buttons" in Spad, just select one of the "buttons" and assign the "On" events to the "Pressed" condition and the "Off" events to the "Released" condition and ignore the other "button".

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    @djw4250 said in Baron Icing Switches:

    No, not at all! It's been a great discovery adventure for me.
    Yes, the honeycomb stuff does seem difficult, especially, for me anyway, the Autopilot setup.
    I have puzzled over why I couldn't find such a thing as a repository. Cheers, I have saved the URL in my Favorites.
    You have the X52 and I still use my original Saitek Pro Flight Yoke!
    You might be relieved to hear that all my switches are working. I can start my sim "Cold and Dark" for the first time in years. Very nice. Thanks for your friendly help.
    Very, very much appreciated.

    Are you using a Honeycomb Bravo? If so, I have a great set up for the autopilot.

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    replied to RoughLandings on last edited by djw4250
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    @RoughLandings, I am very happy that you have saved a copy of my SPAD "De-Icing Switches Procedure". Usually after I have clicked everything in sight and it accidentally works I have no idea why and can't recall the sequence of actions I took so just move on to the next thing and continue "fiddling around" with it. But because of your interest in the subject I kept a record of the procedure. I started it by taking notes while watching "How To" videos.
    Yes I am using the HC Bravo and yes I have been having a great deal of trouble getting reliable functionality from its Autopilot feature.
    And yes, I would be glad to investigate your configuration for it.

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    @RoughLandings yes I have done that way when setting controls within FS2020 also. All my switches are Single Throw Double Pole toggle switches so they are ON-ON.
    I have found that sometimes when I chose the action event "Toggle" the switch in the sim does exactly that - and continues to rapidly toggle until my "button" is released.
    Have you come across that sort of thing? If so have you found a way to avoid it?

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    @djw4250, here you go:

    I can't take credit for most of this but it works well for me. I think it is from the Spad creator, not sure but I found it on YouTube either way.

    The mode selector knob has nothing assigned to it. The rotary encoder dial on the right side uses conditions to check the position of the mode selector knob:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122048.png

    Heading Mode Button:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122125.png

    Nav Mode Button:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122136.png

    Approach Mode Button:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122150.png

    Reverse Mode Button - I used it to swap the CDI mode:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122211.png

    Altitude Mode Button:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122231.png

    Vertical Speed Mode Button:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122305.png

    IAS Mode Button - I use it to swap between the altimeter and vertical speed input modes on the KAS 297B. It is not a true toggle, but long press for one mode, short press for the other:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122321.png

    The rotary encoder dial - note the conditions for each event that check the position of the left selector knob:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122346.png

    Autopilot Master Button:
    Screenshot 2024-03-28 122440.png

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    @djw4250 said in Baron Icing Switches:

    @RoughLandings yes I have done that way when setting controls within FS2020 also. All my switches are Single Throw Double Pole toggle switches so they are ON-ON.
    I have found that sometimes when I chose the action event "Toggle" the switch in the sim does exactly that - and continues to rapidly toggle until my "button" is released.
    Have you come across that sort of thing? If so have you found a way to avoid it?

    How do they show up in Spad?

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    @RoughLandings not sure. I did it in FS2020

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    @djw4250, okay, I missed the part about the assignments being done through the standard MSFS control menu. I expect that behavior is going to be impossible to overcome unless configured through Spad with that kind of switch.

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    @RoughLandings

    @RoughLandings said in Baron Icing Switches:

    I expect that behavior is going to be impossible to overcome unless configured through Spad with that kind of switch.

    I think you are right about that. So I am patiently working through all the switches that I have and deleting the FS2020 settings and redoing them in SPAD.

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    @GunStrauss said in Baron Icing Switches:

    May I ask what controllers you're setting up?

    I'm sorry mate I don't understand what you mean by "controller".

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    Input device

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    replied to RoughLandings on last edited by hangar_101
    #43

    @RoughLandings thanks for sharing these setups, they are very helpful.
    You can also share all spad.next specific settings of yours using the publish snippet option. Once you have done it just let people know the user/snippet name here in the forum and people can download them to their spad.next directly.
    It's a good option to help those who are not that familiar with coding spad.next.

    Below an example

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    Hangar 101

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    @GunStrauss toggle switch (SPDT) wired to a Leo Bodnar board.

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    @hangar_101, I do have a published snippet for the Bravo and Analog Baron. The ID number to look it up in Spad is 10854. It's my only published snippet so far but has the autopilot settings I posted above.

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