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Autopilot After SIM Update 14

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    Sir_PickleRick
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    Where is this file? I can't find it anywhere. I have the MS Store version.

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      Where is this file? I can't find it anywhere. I have the MS Store version.

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      ssschirr87
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      @Sir_PickleRick I have the MS Store version as well. You will need to know where your Community Folder is located. Once you figure that out, I would pin it so you can easily navigate to it. If you already have it pinned, you can go to the Community Folder and then go to the previous folder named "Packages" and then to \Official\OneStore\workingtitle-instruments-garmin-gns\html_ui\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\NavSystems\GPS\WT530.

      Once you are there, you should see the WT530B.js file within that folder. When you open that file, you can do a "Ctrl+F" function to search for "Update loop for the main screen". You will want to make sure the code is copied and pasted as Black Square specifies, otherwise it may not work. Scroll up to Post # 36 for those details. Save the file with the appropriate changes.

      I then had to reboot my computer.

      Good luck!

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        jmarkows
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        This is as good a place as any to ask: is there a specific binding to turn the flight director off? I have tried both the MSFS binding for Autopilot Off and Autopilot Disconnect, and neither do it.

        The first press does disconnect the AP, but no amount of subsequent presses disconnects the FD.

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          This is as good a place as any to ask: is there a specific binding to turn the flight director off? I have tried both the MSFS binding for Autopilot Off and Autopilot Disconnect, and neither do it.

          The first press does disconnect the AP, but no amount of subsequent presses disconnects the FD.

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          krause
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          @jmarkows that's a limitation of MSFS, you have to do the bindings separately. There is a workaround but using payware software to bind the same button FSUIPC I guess it's called..

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            @jmarkows that's a limitation of MSFS, you have to do the bindings separately. There is a workaround but using payware software to bind the same button FSUIPC I guess it's called..

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            jmarkows
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            @krause I'm familiar with using FSUIPC, you'll have to be a little more specific with the rest though.

            If it's a sim limitation, a note in the manual to that effect would also be appreciated instead of simply saying "press once for AP, twice for FD."

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              @krause I'm familiar with using FSUIPC, you'll have to be a little more specific with the rest though.

              If it's a sim limitation, a note in the manual to that effect would also be appreciated instead of simply saying "press once for AP, twice for FD."

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              krause
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              @jmarkows said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:

              @krause I'm familiar with using FSUIPC, you'll have to be a little more specific with the rest though.

              If it's a sim limitation, a note in the manual to that effect would also be appreciated instead of simply saying "press once for AP, twice for FD."

              I am just an user and I barely use windows so I am not familiar with any external plugins for msfs.. you will have to do the research on your own or wait for someone else with more knowledge to answer to you here.

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                jmarkows
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                Please tell me where you got the idea that it's a sim limitation, then.

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                  It's not a sim limitation, but a limitation of how much I am willing to change about the default behavior of some button presses, which can cause issues for less experienced hardware users who often do not change the bindings as they were provided from the factory.

                  You can read more about that in my post here when this came up just yesterday. You will also find an easy solution, which can be implemented with any freeware hardware binding tool of your choice.

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                    jmarkows
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                    Thank you very much for the link, I'll have a look.

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                      simnut531
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                      The code insert for the WT instument seems to have fixed all the issues so far with Autopilot and the various NAV problems. Found it almost impossible to fly without the added code, thank you for the fix! I generally prefer flying with the G530/430.

                      A question please: would I need to also modify the G430 .JS file? Presuming so, I have added the code to the G430 as well.

                      Now the G530 at least basically functions as expected, will monitor performance and let you know if anything awry pops up!

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                        simnut531
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                        Nope, the fix only allowed me to run on first start from main menu once, but at least it allowed a change of plan in flight. When I went back to to try the turbo Baron, the plan didnt load, so appears that mod has not worked. This is not good JustFlight guys!

                        I would appreciate an expert spelling out in greater detail what one does exactly to replace/insert the update code.
                        What should be deleted from what line to what line?
                        I simply added the update code, in hindsight maybe I should have replaced, but not being an expert in htese matters, I assumed just to insert the code after the line found by the search spcified.

                        Finally it might be good plan to make this a separate topic on the modification specifically, under a title say "Fix G530/430 function in BlackSquare Beechcraft" so its easy to find.

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                          Thank you all for providing more information, and for the votes of confidence. I've dropped everything else I'm working on to focus on this right now.

                          I have good news! I was able to replicate what you were seeing, and I have found a single line to be the culprit in the new WT GNS. I don't fully understand why, but I am able to produce the bug with 100% reliability by toggling that line on and off. You were right that this could be avoided if the instrument was loaded as the primary on startup, and never unloaded by the aircraft's state saving. I'm very confident that this is the culprit, and the TDS issue was only a side effect. Luckily, this is very easy for you to fix locally, but I will obviously have to contact Working Title for a patch to be made. Please make the following change to...

                          ...\Official\OneStore\workingtitle-instruments-garmin-gns\html_ui\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\NavSystems\GPS\WT530\WT530B.js (and WT430B.js)

                          Search for "Update loop for the main screen", and replace the existing update function with the following:

                                  update() {
                                      var _a, _b;
                                      const isPrimaryInstrument = this.props.options.navIndex === 1;
                                      this.clock.onUpdate();
                                      this.props.backplane.onUpdate();
                                      if (isPrimaryInstrument) {
                                          (_a = this.autopilot) === null || _a === void 0 ? void 0 : _a.update();
                                          // Planner update
                                          const now = Date.now();
                                          if (now - this.lastCalculate > 3000) {
                                              this.planner.hasFlightPlan(msfsGarminsdk.Fms.PRIMARY_PLAN_INDEX) && this.planner.getFlightPlan(msfsGarminsdk.Fms.PRIMARY_PLAN_INDEX).calculate();
                                              // SimVar.SetSimVarValue('K:HEADING_GYRO_SET', SimVarValueType.Number, 0);
                                              this.lastCalculate = now;
                                          }
                                          this.gpsSynchronizer.update();
                                      }
                                      (_b = this.vnavController) === null || _b === void 0 ? void 0 : _b.update();
                                      if (this.currentPowerState === PowerState.On || this.currentPowerState === PowerState.OnSkipInit) {
                                          this.gpsSatComputer.onUpdate();
                                      }
                                  }
                          

                          Once you have seen if this solves your problem, please tell me asap so that I can contact Working Title. Thank you all for working with me. I hope this is the solution. Good luck!

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                          @Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:

                          and replace the existing update function with the following:

                          Ah, well at least we now know why it didn't work for you. You must replace the nearly identical ~20 lines of code in the file with the lines I provided. I would love to distribute a fix, but there are two reasons I have not. Firstly, I don't want to be accused of distributing WT code without permission, now that it is included in the base simulator. Secondly, our technical support already has to contend with numerous "compatibility" mods for different aircraft that claim to fix one problem, or at one point did, that now cause other problems. I didn't want to add yet one more mod to that list, especially when I thought this would be fixed quickly.

                          This should have been a nearly overnight fix (my opinion), but I think the holidays have gotten in the way of a fix from Working Title, who are the only ones that can provide an official patch. I finally heard back from my contact at WT yesterday, who indicated that I will hear a comprehensive answer from them soon. I will keep you all updated as soon as I have more information.

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                            kaptenek
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                            Follow the WT thread about this on discord. Matt on WT says this could not be adressed earlier than SU15

                            Patric Ek

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                              DD_Arthur
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                              When I try to open the javascript file to paste in the new lines I get a Windows security pop up telling me
                              "Your internet security settings prevented one or more files from being opened".
                              Any advice on this? SU15 seems a long way away at the moment.....

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                                When I try to open the javascript file to paste in the new lines I get a Windows security pop up telling me
                                "Your internet security settings prevented one or more files from being opened".
                                Any advice on this? SU15 seems a long way away at the moment.....

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                                jmarkows
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                                @DD_Arthur said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:

                                When I try to open the javascript file to paste in the new lines I get a Windows security pop up telling me
                                "Your internet security settings prevented one or more files from being opened".
                                Any advice on this? SU15 seems a long way away at the moment.....

                                Sounds like you're trying to run it by double clicking. Can you right click and choose Edit?

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                                  DD_Arthur
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                                  No, right click, choose edit; get the same result. Very strange. Not sure why my 'net security settings would prevent me from opening this file....

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                                    @Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:

                                    and replace the existing update function with the following:

                                    Ah, well at least we now know why it didn't work for you. You must replace the nearly identical ~20 lines of code in the file with the lines I provided. I would love to distribute a fix, but there are two reasons I have not. Firstly, I don't want to be accused of distributing WT code without permission, now that it is included in the base simulator. Secondly, our technical support already has to contend with numerous "compatibility" mods for different aircraft that claim to fix one problem, or at one point did, that now cause other problems. I didn't want to add yet one more mod to that list, especially when I thought this would be fixed quickly.

                                    This should have been a nearly overnight fix (my opinion), but I think the holidays have gotten in the way of a fix from Working Title, who are the only ones that can provide an official patch. I finally heard back from my contact at WT yesterday, who indicated that I will hear a comprehensive answer from them soon. I will keep you all updated as soon as I have more information.

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                                    simnut531
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                                    @Black-Square Thats good news then, I look forward to hearing about the WT patch when it arrives. In the meantime I've tried reinstalling the G530/430 in Marketplace.. no joy. And was going to reload the aircraft. Now that you have clarified your code insertion, I will give that a go and see what happens. I fly with a group that has many members that have the 850 and no one else has mentioned the problem, which is intriguing. But then I havent specifically asked, maybe they have or dont use the G530.

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                                      When I try to open the javascript file to paste in the new lines I get a Windows security pop up telling me
                                      "Your internet security settings prevented one or more files from being opened".
                                      Any advice on this? SU15 seems a long way away at the moment.....

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                                      Harry_W
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                                      @DD_Arthur I had the same problem. I remember that I first made a copy of the two files that I put into the folder: your drive:\WpSystem\S-1-5-21-2137767112-3102214327-255619651-1003\AppData\Local\Packages. From there I could move the files onto another drive, where I was able to open and edit using Notepad++. Another method is to drag the files into a specially created zipfile and export from there onto the other drive, where you can edit.

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                                        DD_Arthur
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                                        Thanks Harry, I’ll give that a go.

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                                        • Black SquareB Black Square

                                          Thanks for asking. The GPS developers explicitly told me to use the pointer last time we spoke a couple months ago, but I will inquire when I hear back about the urgently needed fix. Thank you.

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                                          ultradianguy
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                                          @Black-Square said in Autopilot After SIM Update 14:

                                          Thanks for asking. The GPS developers explicitly told me to use the pointer last time we spoke a couple months ago,

                                          Hi there - I just noticed this. Am I correct then that we need both the actual WT GSN mod AND the small one that is the pointer? Tech support from Just Flight told me exactly the opposite -- ie that I should get rid of the small pointer file.

                                          Also - regarding some other comments you made -- since the analog caravan is a different aircraft than the default Caravan, I assumed that any Caravan mods would not affect the BS version. Is that incorrect?

                                          I'm asking about these because I'd given up on flying my BS Caravan for the moment because none of the solutions have fixed the issues for me.

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