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  • H hunterdouglas

    Steve67 you are fantastic, I just did exactly the same as you and it worked great for me, plenty of traffic at arrival airport

    Developers please take note, and look into the toolbar issue

    We are great supporters of this product and want it to work, we remember the days of FStrafficX, just plug it in and it work perfectly with all types of trafficincluding GA But here we are today trying to get it to work for days, and who fixes it, a paying customer, not the developers or the so called testers.
    In final, FStraffic has always been a great add on, but sadly this time they were too quick to get out a non perfect product and more sadly, the so called testers did not do their job

    [Mod: removed comment about another user, remember the rules, keep it civil]

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      I did some testflights tonight and finally I got it to work some how to get traffic at my destination!!!
      The problem before was, that the in game toolbar ist not working at all on my system!
      I got traffic at my destination when I do the follwoing things:

      • plan the flight with(!) destination in MSFS
        or
      • using traffic control centre without the toolbar

      Conclusion:
      Don't use the toolbar!!!
      Don't press confirm in toolbar!!!

      Downside of all this:
      I was not able to change my destination during or after my flight!
      Either with the toolbar (as I said it doesn't work for me at all!) nor with traffic control centre.
      Traffic was always still at my first destination.

      So dont't play around, just set your destination before flight and life with that. Then you (might) have traffic at your destination.

      I thought we would by more flexible :-(
      I still don't understand the philosphy and the mechanics behind all this, but maybe after a few fixes we get what we expected.
      I keep fingers crossed!

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      Gabe777
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      @steve67 So it won't work for an alternate ......

      Hope it gets fixed.

      From a performance perspective its prolly a good idea to only have traffic landing at dep and arrival airports.... but ... how do you populate the skies ? 🥴

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        @gabe777 said in No traffic at arrival airport:

        dea to only have traff

        We will be supporting alternate destinations in flight asap.
        The skies should be populated with cruise traffic during your flight. If you are not seeing any then please get in touch with support so they can look into it for you.

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          palvarezmd
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          Toolbar issue did not fix it for me. Still no traffic at arrival airport even with disabling toolbar and putting in arrival airport in traffic control center. Plenty of planes at departure. A few in route. Dead airport at arrival.

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          • P palvarezmd

            Toolbar issue did not fix it for me. Still no traffic at arrival airport even with disabling toolbar and putting in arrival airport in traffic control center. Plenty of planes at departure. A few in route. Dead airport at arrival.

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            steve67
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            @palvarezmd

            @jf-john said in Please give us some info and best practice about destination:

            ... there is a requirement that you pass 250knots at 5,000ft to activate the processing of the flightplans. When our attention turns to GA we'll look at

            Did you pass 5,000ft and flew at least 250kts?
            What worked best for me is to plan my flights in MSFS Worldmap including a destination, and don't change a thing!

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              I did some testflights tonight and finally I got it to work some how to get traffic at my destination!!!
              The problem before was, that the in game toolbar ist not working at all on my system!
              I got traffic at my destination when I do the follwoing things:

              • plan the flight with(!) destination in MSFS
                or
              • using traffic control centre without the toolbar

              Conclusion:
              Don't use the toolbar!!!
              Don't press confirm in toolbar!!!

              Downside of all this:
              I was not able to change my destination during or after my flight!
              Either with the toolbar (as I said it doesn't work for me at all!) nor with traffic control centre.
              Traffic was always still at my first destination.

              So dont't play around, just set your destination before flight and life with that. Then you (might) have traffic at your destination.

              I thought we would by more flexible :-(
              I still don't understand the philosphy and the mechanics behind all this, but maybe after a few fixes we get what we expected.
              I keep fingers crossed!

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              chanjkhk
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              @steve67 I just did a short test flight from San Jose to San Francisco and have taken your advice and disabled the in game menu.

              I have set the destination in both the msfs main menu and the traffic control centre.

              Now I am able to see traffic at the arrival airport!! Although there weren't many active traffic (only parked planes from what I can see), I suppose the flight was just too short for any active traffic to reach the airport or depart.

              I will do a longer flight to see if it works better.

              Thank you steve67!

              PS: I'm sure this is also mentioned in other post. I have also found lowering the ground services vehicle increases the overall traffic due to the no. of object limit. I basically have the setting set as "Set For Fast Gate Turnarounds" and the traffic volume definitely improved.

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              • S steve67

                @palvarezmd

                @jf-john said in Please give us some info and best practice about destination:

                ... there is a requirement that you pass 250knots at 5,000ft to activate the processing of the flightplans. When our attention turns to GA we'll look at

                Did you pass 5,000ft and flew at least 250kts?
                What worked best for me is to plan my flights in MSFS Worldmap including a destination, and don't change a thing!

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                palvarezmd
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                @steve67 That might be it. Most of my flights were short hops with turboprops below 5000 feet. Was unaware of that rule. Will try again later today above 5000.

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                  @steve67 That might be it. Most of my flights were short hops with turboprops below 5000 feet. Was unaware of that rule. Will try again later today above 5000.

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                  Just did EGNM-EGLL

                  Cruise time 44 minutes
                  Cruise speed 274 kts
                  Cruise Altitude 14,000 ft

                  EGLL empty on arrival :confused_face:

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                    Just did EGNM-EGLL

                    Cruise time 44 minutes
                    Cruise speed 274 kts
                    Cruise Altitude 14,000 ft

                    EGLL empty on arrival :confused_face:

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                    steve67
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                    @bpfonteyn To get a feeling of the whole system (especially with traffic at the destination) I did my first testflights with small, default airports. Next complex destination, next complex departure.
                    Yes, very annoying for a payware product, but still ...
                    I still don't have a clue how the whole system works! That's why I startet the topic: Please give us some info and best practice about destination
                    But I didn't got that much useful answers (yet) :-(

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                    • RichR Rich

                      @gabe777 said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                      dea to only have traff

                      We will be supporting alternate destinations in flight asap.
                      The skies should be populated with cruise traffic during your flight. If you are not seeing any then please get in touch with support so they can look into it for you.

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                      steve67
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                      @rich said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                      We will be supporting alternate destinations in flight asap.

                      Does this mean, (despite the manual: "The destination ICAO can be changed at any time during a flight, allowing for flights to alternate airports."!!) alternates doesn't work at all at the moment?!?
                      I thought this happens only on my system! :astonished_face:

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                      • S steve67

                        @palvarezmd

                        @jf-john said in Please give us some info and best practice about destination:

                        ... there is a requirement that you pass 250knots at 5,000ft to activate the processing of the flightplans. When our attention turns to GA we'll look at

                        Did you pass 5,000ft and flew at least 250kts?
                        What worked best for me is to plan my flights in MSFS Worldmap including a destination, and don't change a thing!

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                        gogolito
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                        @steve67

                        same issue here, i m making some test, i have a feeling (just a feeling) it has something to do with jetways. when i don’t use jetways for boarding (my plane!) at departure, i have traffic on arrival.
                        but again, might be a placebo, you know how wierd things are !

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                          @steve67

                          same issue here, i m making some test, i have a feeling (just a feeling) it has something to do with jetways. when i don’t use jetways for boarding (my plane!) at departure, i have traffic on arrival.
                          but again, might be a placebo, you know how wierd things are !

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                          @gogolito Hm, I never paid attention to be honest. Some of the quick testflights I did with the MB-339, so no boarding. When I use boarding and jetways, I even use GSX!!

                          • So, maybe using jetways is part of the object-limit (more objects in use when moving)?
                          • is the object-limit part of the whole flightsimsession (all objects from departure, during flight, 'til arrival?)?
                          • or is the object-limit only part of the actual scene (like what I "see" on screen right now?)?
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                            @gogolito Hm, I never paid attention to be honest. Some of the quick testflights I did with the MB-339, so no boarding. When I use boarding and jetways, I even use GSX!!

                            • So, maybe using jetways is part of the object-limit (more objects in use when moving)?
                            • is the object-limit part of the whole flightsimsession (all objects from departure, during flight, 'til arrival?)?
                            • or is the object-limit only part of the actual scene (like what I "see" on screen right now?)?
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                            @steve67

                            if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

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                              @steve67

                              if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

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                              @gogolito said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                              @steve67

                              if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

                              Excellent, good to know! Thank you!

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                                @steve67

                                if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

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                                @gogolito said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                                @steve67

                                if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

                                Awesome tip. Thank you! 👍

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                                  Allright, I thought I know how to do it.
                                  Tonight, flight from EDDN to EDDM, PMDG 737-700.

                                  • traffic at departure (arrivals and departures)!
                                  • at arrival? Nothing, niente, nada, no aircrafts!! :angry_face:
                                  • startet FSTL, lots of aircrafts at the gates

                                  This software is driving me nuts!

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                                    Allright, I thought I know how to do it.
                                    Tonight, flight from EDDN to EDDM, PMDG 737-700.

                                    • traffic at departure (arrivals and departures)!
                                    • at arrival? Nothing, niente, nada, no aircrafts!! :angry_face:
                                    • startet FSTL, lots of aircrafts at the gates

                                    This software is driving me nuts!

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                                      @gogolito said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                                      @steve67

                                      if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

                                      Excellent, good to know! Thank you!

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                                      gogolito
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                                      @steve67

                                      Steve, i have 100%success so far and this is how (it s something i ve read on another forum ) ;
                                      once flight is loaded , open fs traffic toolbar and WAIT for the arrival ICAO to fill automatically.
                                      then DO NOT press confirm. wait a few second and close it.
                                      i also lowered time before departure to 90 minutes.
                                      100% success

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                                        @steve67

                                        Steve, i have 100%success so far and this is how (it s something i ve read on another forum ) ;
                                        once flight is loaded , open fs traffic toolbar and WAIT for the arrival ICAO to fill automatically.
                                        then DO NOT press confirm. wait a few second and close it.
                                        i also lowered time before departure to 90 minutes.
                                        100% success

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                                        @gogolito I certainly do not get 100% success on this suggestion. I have tried it myself.

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                                          Thank you for all your feedback. It's so dissapointing, that the devs don't kick in and give us suggestions how it's done correct!
                                          I think it's very important when you open the destination aka toolbar-window. I did it after takeoff and this is probably to late! I will do it next time before I even move my plane and will report.

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