No traffic at arrival airport
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@mhron said in No traffic at arrival airport:
Reading all this is a strong stuff, people accusing the developers of lying and releasing a product without any extensive testing etc. It's really true that the flight sim community can be very toxic.
People being disappointed in a piece of software that does not appear to work for all and making complaints about it is not toxic!! People have the right to complain if they are disappointed in a product because it appears not to work properly.
Yes, being disrespectful could be classed as toxic, but certainly not exercising their right to complain.
The thing that is frustrating those complaining is that within, say, half hour or an hour of playing, people, who have paid for this product, are noticing almost game-breaking bugs. It is understandable that people are asking questions such as Why is it that we are picking up bugs almost straight away that the devs and their beta-testers missed with weeks of testing? or Did the beta-testers really test or did they just say they would for a free copy of the game? Questions I have seen being asked.
I myself am very disappointed in this piece of software. I have used previous incarnations of JF's Traffic series and have always been impressed. But unfortunately my experience with this latest Traffic programme from JF has really knocked my confidence in them.
If people did not complain then JF would not know of these bugs, and, of course, a barrage of complaints will encourage any developer to work harder to fix the issues.
Some people might also be frustrated by a perceived lack of information from the, or any, developer when there are a large volume of complaints, and people would like to know exactly what the devs are doing. Perhaps a thread by the devs showing what bugs have been reported and what they are doing about it would be helpful. At least it might show transparency. MS/Asobo have a similar thing where you can see lists of bugs that the developers are working on.
We now just have to wait for JF to fix these issues, which I am sure they are working on.
But, please, do not throw the word toxic around just because people are exercising their right to complain. So long as it's done respectfully of course.
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I did some testflights tonight and finally I got it to work some how to get traffic at my destination!!!
The problem before was, that the in game toolbar ist not working at all on my system!
I got traffic at my destination when I do the follwoing things:- plan the flight with(!) destination in MSFS
or - using traffic control centre without the toolbar
Conclusion:
Don't use the toolbar!!!
Don't press confirm in toolbar!!!Downside of all this:
I was not able to change my destination during or after my flight!
Either with the toolbar (as I said it doesn't work for me at all!) nor with traffic control centre.
Traffic was always still at my first destination.So dont't play around, just set your destination before flight and life with that. Then you (might) have traffic at your destination.
I thought we would by more flexible :-(
I still don't understand the philosphy and the mechanics behind all this, but maybe after a few fixes we get what we expected.
I keep fingers crossed! - plan the flight with(!) destination in MSFS
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Steve67 you are fantastic, I just did exactly the same as you and it worked great for me, plenty of traffic at arrival airport
Developers please take note, and look into the toolbar issue
We are great supporters of this product and want it to work, we remember the days of FStrafficX, just plug it in and it work perfectly with all types of trafficincluding GA But here we are today trying to get it to work for days, and who fixes it, a paying customer, not the developers or the so called testers.
In final, FStraffic has always been a great add on, but sadly this time they were too quick to get out a non perfect product and more sadly, the so called testers did not do their job[Mod: removed comment about another user, remember the rules, keep it civil]
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@gabe777 said in No traffic at arrival airport:
dea to only have traff
We will be supporting alternate destinations in flight asap.
The skies should be populated with cruise traffic during your flight. If you are not seeing any then please get in touch with support so they can look into it for you. -
Toolbar issue did not fix it for me. Still no traffic at arrival airport even with disabling toolbar and putting in arrival airport in traffic control center. Plenty of planes at departure. A few in route. Dead airport at arrival.
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@jf-john said in Please give us some info and best practice about destination:
... there is a requirement that you pass 250knots at 5,000ft to activate the processing of the flightplans. When our attention turns to GA we'll look at
Did you pass 5,000ft and flew at least 250kts?
What worked best for me is to plan my flights in MSFS Worldmap including a destination, and don't change a thing! -
@steve67 I just did a short test flight from San Jose to San Francisco and have taken your advice and disabled the in game menu.
I have set the destination in both the msfs main menu and the traffic control centre.
Now I am able to see traffic at the arrival airport!! Although there weren't many active traffic (only parked planes from what I can see), I suppose the flight was just too short for any active traffic to reach the airport or depart.
I will do a longer flight to see if it works better.
Thank you steve67!
PS: I'm sure this is also mentioned in other post. I have also found lowering the ground services vehicle increases the overall traffic due to the no. of object limit. I basically have the setting set as "Set For Fast Gate Turnarounds" and the traffic volume definitely improved.
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@steve67 That might be it. Most of my flights were short hops with turboprops below 5000 feet. Was unaware of that rule. Will try again later today above 5000.
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Just did EGNM-EGLL
Cruise time 44 minutes
Cruise speed 274 kts
Cruise Altitude 14,000 ftEGLL empty on arrival :confused_face:
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@bpfonteyn To get a feeling of the whole system (especially with traffic at the destination) I did my first testflights with small, default airports. Next complex destination, next complex departure.
Yes, very annoying for a payware product, but still ...
I still don't have a clue how the whole system works! That's why I startet the topic: Please give us some info and best practice about destination
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@rich said in No traffic at arrival airport:
We will be supporting alternate destinations in flight asap.
Does this mean, (despite the manual: "The destination ICAO can be changed at any time during a flight, allowing for flights to alternate airports."!!) alternates doesn't work at all at the moment?!?
I thought this happens only on my system! :astonished_face: -
same issue here, i m making some test, i have a feeling (just a feeling) it has something to do with jetways. when i don’t use jetways for boarding (my plane!) at departure, i have traffic on arrival.
but again, might be a placebo, you know how wierd things are ! -
@gogolito Hm, I never paid attention to be honest. Some of the quick testflights I did with the MB-339, so no boarding. When I use boarding and jetways, I even use GSX!!
- So, maybe using jetways is part of the object-limit (more objects in use when moving)?
- is the object-limit part of the whole flightsimsession (all objects from departure, during flight, 'til arrival?)?
- or is the object-limit only part of the actual scene (like what I "see" on screen right now?)?
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Allright, I thought I know how to do it.
Tonight, flight from EDDN to EDDM, PMDG 737-700.- traffic at departure (arrivals and departures)!
- at arrival? Nothing, niente, nada, no aircrafts!! :angry_face:
- startet FSTL, lots of aircrafts at the gates
This software is driving me nuts!
