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  • S steve67

    I did some testflights tonight and finally I got it to work some how to get traffic at my destination!!!
    The problem before was, that the in game toolbar ist not working at all on my system!
    I got traffic at my destination when I do the follwoing things:

    • plan the flight with(!) destination in MSFS
      or
    • using traffic control centre without the toolbar

    Conclusion:
    Don't use the toolbar!!!
    Don't press confirm in toolbar!!!

    Downside of all this:
    I was not able to change my destination during or after my flight!
    Either with the toolbar (as I said it doesn't work for me at all!) nor with traffic control centre.
    Traffic was always still at my first destination.

    So dont't play around, just set your destination before flight and life with that. Then you (might) have traffic at your destination.

    I thought we would by more flexible :-(
    I still don't understand the philosphy and the mechanics behind all this, but maybe after a few fixes we get what we expected.
    I keep fingers crossed!

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    chanjkhk
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    @steve67 I just did a short test flight from San Jose to San Francisco and have taken your advice and disabled the in game menu.

    I have set the destination in both the msfs main menu and the traffic control centre.

    Now I am able to see traffic at the arrival airport!! Although there weren't many active traffic (only parked planes from what I can see), I suppose the flight was just too short for any active traffic to reach the airport or depart.

    I will do a longer flight to see if it works better.

    Thank you steve67!

    PS: I'm sure this is also mentioned in other post. I have also found lowering the ground services vehicle increases the overall traffic due to the no. of object limit. I basically have the setting set as "Set For Fast Gate Turnarounds" and the traffic volume definitely improved.

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    • S steve67

      @palvarezmd

      @jf-john said in Please give us some info and best practice about destination:

      ... there is a requirement that you pass 250knots at 5,000ft to activate the processing of the flightplans. When our attention turns to GA we'll look at

      Did you pass 5,000ft and flew at least 250kts?
      What worked best for me is to plan my flights in MSFS Worldmap including a destination, and don't change a thing!

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      palvarezmd
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      @steve67 That might be it. Most of my flights were short hops with turboprops below 5000 feet. Was unaware of that rule. Will try again later today above 5000.

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        @steve67 That might be it. Most of my flights were short hops with turboprops below 5000 feet. Was unaware of that rule. Will try again later today above 5000.

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        Just did EGNM-EGLL

        Cruise time 44 minutes
        Cruise speed 274 kts
        Cruise Altitude 14,000 ft

        EGLL empty on arrival :confused_face:

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          Just did EGNM-EGLL

          Cruise time 44 minutes
          Cruise speed 274 kts
          Cruise Altitude 14,000 ft

          EGLL empty on arrival :confused_face:

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          steve67
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          @bpfonteyn To get a feeling of the whole system (especially with traffic at the destination) I did my first testflights with small, default airports. Next complex destination, next complex departure.
          Yes, very annoying for a payware product, but still ...
          I still don't have a clue how the whole system works! That's why I startet the topic: Please give us some info and best practice about destination
          But I didn't got that much useful answers (yet) :-(

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          • RichR Rich

            @gabe777 said in No traffic at arrival airport:

            dea to only have traff

            We will be supporting alternate destinations in flight asap.
            The skies should be populated with cruise traffic during your flight. If you are not seeing any then please get in touch with support so they can look into it for you.

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            steve67
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            @rich said in No traffic at arrival airport:

            We will be supporting alternate destinations in flight asap.

            Does this mean, (despite the manual: "The destination ICAO can be changed at any time during a flight, allowing for flights to alternate airports."!!) alternates doesn't work at all at the moment?!?
            I thought this happens only on my system! :astonished_face:

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              @palvarezmd

              @jf-john said in Please give us some info and best practice about destination:

              ... there is a requirement that you pass 250knots at 5,000ft to activate the processing of the flightplans. When our attention turns to GA we'll look at

              Did you pass 5,000ft and flew at least 250kts?
              What worked best for me is to plan my flights in MSFS Worldmap including a destination, and don't change a thing!

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              gogolito
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              @steve67

              same issue here, i m making some test, i have a feeling (just a feeling) it has something to do with jetways. when i don’t use jetways for boarding (my plane!) at departure, i have traffic on arrival.
              but again, might be a placebo, you know how wierd things are !

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                @steve67

                same issue here, i m making some test, i have a feeling (just a feeling) it has something to do with jetways. when i don’t use jetways for boarding (my plane!) at departure, i have traffic on arrival.
                but again, might be a placebo, you know how wierd things are !

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                steve67
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                @gogolito Hm, I never paid attention to be honest. Some of the quick testflights I did with the MB-339, so no boarding. When I use boarding and jetways, I even use GSX!!

                • So, maybe using jetways is part of the object-limit (more objects in use when moving)?
                • is the object-limit part of the whole flightsimsession (all objects from departure, during flight, 'til arrival?)?
                • or is the object-limit only part of the actual scene (like what I "see" on screen right now?)?
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                  @gogolito Hm, I never paid attention to be honest. Some of the quick testflights I did with the MB-339, so no boarding. When I use boarding and jetways, I even use GSX!!

                  • So, maybe using jetways is part of the object-limit (more objects in use when moving)?
                  • is the object-limit part of the whole flightsimsession (all objects from departure, during flight, 'til arrival?)?
                  • or is the object-limit only part of the actual scene (like what I "see" on screen right now?)?
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                  @steve67

                  if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

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                    @steve67

                    if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

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                    @gogolito said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                    @steve67

                    if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

                    Excellent, good to know! Thank you!

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                      @steve67

                      if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

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                      @gogolito said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                      @steve67

                      if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

                      Awesome tip. Thank you! 👍

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                        steve67
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                        Allright, I thought I know how to do it.
                        Tonight, flight from EDDN to EDDM, PMDG 737-700.

                        • traffic at departure (arrivals and departures)!
                        • at arrival? Nothing, niente, nada, no aircrafts!! :angry_face:
                        • startet FSTL, lots of aircrafts at the gates

                        This software is driving me nuts!

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                          Allright, I thought I know how to do it.
                          Tonight, flight from EDDN to EDDM, PMDG 737-700.

                          • traffic at departure (arrivals and departures)!
                          • at arrival? Nothing, niente, nada, no aircrafts!! :angry_face:
                          • startet FSTL, lots of aircrafts at the gates

                          This software is driving me nuts!

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                            @gogolito said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                            @steve67

                            if you enter dev mode and look into option / sim object, if there are nothing in red color here, them you don t exceed sim object limit

                            Excellent, good to know! Thank you!

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                            gogolito
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                            @steve67

                            Steve, i have 100%success so far and this is how (it s something i ve read on another forum ) ;
                            once flight is loaded , open fs traffic toolbar and WAIT for the arrival ICAO to fill automatically.
                            then DO NOT press confirm. wait a few second and close it.
                            i also lowered time before departure to 90 minutes.
                            100% success

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                              @steve67

                              Steve, i have 100%success so far and this is how (it s something i ve read on another forum ) ;
                              once flight is loaded , open fs traffic toolbar and WAIT for the arrival ICAO to fill automatically.
                              then DO NOT press confirm. wait a few second and close it.
                              i also lowered time before departure to 90 minutes.
                              100% success

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                              BBoaBrim
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                              @gogolito I certainly do not get 100% success on this suggestion. I have tried it myself.

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                                steve67
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                                Thank you for all your feedback. It's so dissapointing, that the devs don't kick in and give us suggestions how it's done correct!
                                I think it's very important when you open the destination aka toolbar-window. I did it after takeoff and this is probably to late! I will do it next time before I even move my plane and will report.

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                                  Thank you for all your feedback. It's so dissapointing, that the devs don't kick in and give us suggestions how it's done correct!
                                  I think it's very important when you open the destination aka toolbar-window. I did it after takeoff and this is probably to late! I will do it next time before I even move my plane and will report.

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                                  BBoaBrim
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                                  @steve67 said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                                  Thank you for all your feedback. It's so dissapointing, that the devs don't kick in and give us suggestions how it's done correct!
                                  I think it's very important when you open the destination aka toolbar-window. I did it after takeoff and this is probably to late! I will do it next time before I even move my plane and will report.

                                  They have, I’m sure. Certainly a dev stated that you should open the JF button on the toolbar and wait for the destination ICAO to auto-populate. This can take a moment or two.

                                  Also there is the manual, which gives you two methods of flight planning.

                                  They are aware of the issues.

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                                    @gogolito I certainly do not get 100% success on this suggestion. I have tried it myself.

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                                      @gogolito I certainly do not get 100% success on this suggestion. I have tried it myself.

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                                      @bpfonteyn said in No traffic at arrival airport:

                                      @gogolito I certainly do not get 100% success on this suggestion. I have tried it myself.

                                      even with time to departure to 90 min only ?

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                                        Vanngster
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                                        Same issue for me as well. Have tested FSTraffic the entire weekend completing different flights of various durations on PMDG 737-800. A lot of traffic on departure airport and absolutely NO TRAFFIC at arrival airport.

                                        Just Flight, fix your software as soon as possible!

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                                        • S steve67

                                          Thank you for all your feedback. It's so dissapointing, that the devs don't kick in and give us suggestions how it's done correct!
                                          I think it's very important when you open the destination aka toolbar-window. I did it after takeoff and this is probably to late! I will do it next time before I even move my plane and will report.

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                                          JF John
                                          JF Staff
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                                          @steve67 Hello,

                                          Honestly its a little bit baffling why everyone is having different experiences. All of the suggestions above should work in theory. One thing I would suggest if using the toolbar option, is leaving it open for at least 20 seconds after confirming the destination.

                                          You are correct about opening the toolbar, even if you used the MSFS flight planner, the toolbar should still be opened, preferably at the start of the flight but as long as its opened at some point well before the destination you should be good.

                                          Are you familiar with MSFS's dev mode option at all. That can give us some pointers as to what might be going on.

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