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  • H hunterdouglas

    @bpfonteyn said in No traffic at arrival airport:

    first I left it on, but cleared it out, flew into KBOS plenty of aircraft. I then turned it off and flew into KBOS again, only a couple of aircraft. Then repeated both options, with it on, next time no traffic, with it off, no traffic. So it's still not the answer, it's always hit or miss for me, sometimes it works, other times no. I'm very tired of it now, I reckon I've done more testing of it than the beta guys ever did. hopefully the promised patch they say is due out this week will work

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    @hunterdouglas said in No traffic at arrival airport:

    @bpfonteyn said in No traffic at arrival airport:

    ...the beta guys ever did ...

    snort of derision :grinning_squinting_face:

    We're all hoping for a patch this week. I can quite imagine it's been quite a stressful time in JF HQ since the release of Traffic. Hopefully before the release of Kerbal Space Program 2 (EA) on Friday. :grinning_cat_face:

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      I hope you are making good progress. It's really frustrating that I often have no traffic at the destination airport.

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        lots of hope ... ;)
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          xtreme33guitar
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          #152

          So we are what....30+ days in. Still no aircraft at arrival airport. I'll see aircraft at departure and like 30 minutes after I'll see aircraft arriving at my departure....sometimes. I'll see the occasional aircraft enroute...but I never see aircraft landing or taxing and barely ever at a gate at my destination airport....STILL. It's getting a little frustrating. I've put in a ticket quite awhile ago and given the required data asked for and haven't heard back since. Sigh. I do like me JF products but this one is more frustrating than the norm.

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          • X xtreme33guitar

            So we are what....30+ days in. Still no aircraft at arrival airport. I'll see aircraft at departure and like 30 minutes after I'll see aircraft arriving at my departure....sometimes. I'll see the occasional aircraft enroute...but I never see aircraft landing or taxing and barely ever at a gate at my destination airport....STILL. It's getting a little frustrating. I've put in a ticket quite awhile ago and given the required data asked for and haven't heard back since. Sigh. I do like me JF products but this one is more frustrating than the norm.

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            Derek
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            wrote on last edited by Voice of Reason
            #153

            @xtreme33guitar said in No traffic at arrival airport:

            So we are what....30+ days in. Still no aircraft at arrival airport. I'll see aircraft at departure and like 30 minutes after I'll see aircraft arriving at my departure....sometimes. I'll see the occasional aircraft enroute...but I never see aircraft landing or taxing and barely ever at a gate at my destination airport....STILL. It's getting a little frustrating. I've put in a ticket quite awhile ago and given the required data asked for and haven't heard back since. Sigh. I do like me JF products but this one is more frustrating than the norm.

            Totally understand your frustration. We are equally frustrated. FST worked fine for our large testing group and is also working for most users. It would have been impossible to release a traffic program that had no arrival traffic. But, it is clear that some users are getting a different experience to others and, for them, it is a traffic program with no traffic! We are working hard to nail whatever it is that causing these isolated problems with arrival traffic and thank you for completing the log for us. These logs are helping to find a common denominator and the latest build of an update is being tested at the moment.

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            • X xtreme33guitar

              So we are what....30+ days in. Still no aircraft at arrival airport. I'll see aircraft at departure and like 30 minutes after I'll see aircraft arriving at my departure....sometimes. I'll see the occasional aircraft enroute...but I never see aircraft landing or taxing and barely ever at a gate at my destination airport....STILL. It's getting a little frustrating. I've put in a ticket quite awhile ago and given the required data asked for and haven't heard back since. Sigh. I do like me JF products but this one is more frustrating than the norm.

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              BBoaBrim
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              @xtreme33guitar

              I do understand your frustration. I too rarely get any arrival traffic, nor enroute traffic.

              I sometimes get both when flying into EGLC, with the latter, enroute traffic, only being heard as I approach London.

              Really wanting to keep JF Traffic installed, but as each day passes without a fix it’s becoming harder not to uninstall it and write it off as a wasted purchase. Simple Traffic is by no means the best traffic software, but at least it had plenty of enroute traffic and traffic at destination airports (and no “ghost airports”). 😢

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                @xtreme33guitar

                I do understand your frustration. I too rarely get any arrival traffic, nor enroute traffic.

                I sometimes get both when flying into EGLC, with the latter, enroute traffic, only being heard as I approach London.

                Really wanting to keep JF Traffic installed, but as each day passes without a fix it’s becoming harder not to uninstall it and write it off as a wasted purchase. Simple Traffic is by no means the best traffic software, but at least it had plenty of enroute traffic and traffic at destination airports (and no “ghost airports”). 😢

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                #155

                @bpfonteyn
                We're almost there with the update. We had hoped to release today, but it wasn't to be. It should be available early next week though.
                Here is the current changelog for the update:

                Module: Departures now using correct callsign callouts
                Module: Destination airport detection revisions
                Module: New system for handling departures
                Module: Additional cruise AI scenarios added, plus increased randomness
                Module: Additional airports added to database
                Module: SF3 added to aircraft database
                Module: Remove traffic/Regenerate traffic system improvements
                Module: Bug when switching to an airport with no scheduled arrivals - fixed
                TCC: VMR template exporting/importing bug
                TCC: Right clicking headers in the TCC would cause a crash - fixed
                TCC: Localisation issue fixed
                Misc: In-sim menu not showing ICAO code when reopened during flight - fixed
                Fleet: Added Cebu (CEB) Pacific A320, 320_SL and A320_NEO, A321_SL, A321 NEO, a330-300, ATR72
                Fleet: Added Air China 747-400
                Fleet: Added Air New Zealand 777-300ER
                Fleet: Added Asiana 747-400
                Fleet: Added Aurigny E195,ATR72
                Fleet: Added Iraqi 747-400
                Fleet: Added REX 737-800
                Fleet: Added Singapore 777-300ER
                Fleet: Added Smart wings 737-800
                Fleet: Added missing A320NEO textures. AVA, QDA,SKU,LAN,IBE
                Fleet: Colour matched BA fleet
                Fleet: Rebuilt Aircraft.CFG's to correct some callsigns
                Fleet: Updated wheel anim code
                Fleet: Added bogie tilt to A330-200/A330-300/747-400/747-8/787-8/787-9
                

                Subject to change before release, of course.

                Thanks
                Rich

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                • RichR Rich

                  @bpfonteyn
                  We're almost there with the update. We had hoped to release today, but it wasn't to be. It should be available early next week though.
                  Here is the current changelog for the update:

                  Module: Departures now using correct callsign callouts
                  Module: Destination airport detection revisions
                  Module: New system for handling departures
                  Module: Additional cruise AI scenarios added, plus increased randomness
                  Module: Additional airports added to database
                  Module: SF3 added to aircraft database
                  Module: Remove traffic/Regenerate traffic system improvements
                  Module: Bug when switching to an airport with no scheduled arrivals - fixed
                  TCC: VMR template exporting/importing bug
                  TCC: Right clicking headers in the TCC would cause a crash - fixed
                  TCC: Localisation issue fixed
                  Misc: In-sim menu not showing ICAO code when reopened during flight - fixed
                  Fleet: Added Cebu (CEB) Pacific A320, 320_SL and A320_NEO, A321_SL, A321 NEO, a330-300, ATR72
                  Fleet: Added Air China 747-400
                  Fleet: Added Air New Zealand 777-300ER
                  Fleet: Added Asiana 747-400
                  Fleet: Added Aurigny E195,ATR72
                  Fleet: Added Iraqi 747-400
                  Fleet: Added REX 737-800
                  Fleet: Added Singapore 777-300ER
                  Fleet: Added Smart wings 737-800
                  Fleet: Added missing A320NEO textures. AVA, QDA,SKU,LAN,IBE
                  Fleet: Colour matched BA fleet
                  Fleet: Rebuilt Aircraft.CFG's to correct some callsigns
                  Fleet: Updated wheel anim code
                  Fleet: Added bogie tilt to A330-200/A330-300/747-400/747-8/787-8/787-9
                  

                  Subject to change before release, of course.

                  Thanks
                  Rich

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                  Elpix
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                  #156

                  @rich sounds promising ! its worth the wait ;) Thanks for the update

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                    Monkeypants
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                    #157

                    please add cargo carriers! thanks!

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                    • M Monkeypants

                      please add cargo carriers! thanks!

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                      ClevaTreva
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                      #158

                      @monkeypants Yus! :thumbs_up: I'd like to see more smaller aircraft.

                      I love the models but I find the implementation of FS Traffic limiting. I like to roam around (okay I get lost a lot!) and have traffic generated wherever I go and not have to worry about entering a destination which is why I currently prefer the FSLTL injector.

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                        hunterdouglas
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                        I think I've solved the problem. I've just done 7 flights with plenty of aircraft at destination.
                        It's the instructions that are wrong , they say to enter and confirm your destination AFTER you have loaded into a flight.
                        thats wrong, enter and confirm your destination BEFORE YOU PRESS the FLY BUTTON
                        In flight set up, i entered both departure and destination airport, then in FStraffic I entered and confirmed destination, then pressed FLY and it worked

                        Please could other people try this method and see if it works for them

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                        • H hunterdouglas

                          I think I've solved the problem. I've just done 7 flights with plenty of aircraft at destination.
                          It's the instructions that are wrong , they say to enter and confirm your destination AFTER you have loaded into a flight.
                          thats wrong, enter and confirm your destination BEFORE YOU PRESS the FLY BUTTON
                          In flight set up, i entered both departure and destination airport, then in FStraffic I entered and confirmed destination, then pressed FLY and it worked

                          Please could other people try this method and see if it works for them

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                          BBoaBrim
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                          @hunterdouglas

                          No, you have not fixed the problem. I believe the manual gives two methods, of which one of them is your “fix”. Either that or a dev has already asked people try this method. I myself have already tried your suggestion without success.

                          If it was that simple don’t you think the devs would have fixed it by now?

                          Kudos, however, for your efforts 👍

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                            @hunterdouglas

                            No, you have not fixed the problem. I believe the manual gives two methods, of which one of them is your “fix”. Either that or a dev has already asked people try this method. I myself have already tried your suggestion without success.

                            If it was that simple don’t you think the devs would have fixed it by now?

                            Kudos, however, for your efforts 👍

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                            hunterdouglas
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                            @bpfonteyn

                            Sorry, but maybe you misunderstand what i did, attached is the two methods of the manual, both say click the fly button THEN type and confirm the destination,
                            what I'm saying is from the fstraffic control centre type in the destination and confirm BEFORE you hit the fly button.
                            I had been trying for weeks with know aircraft at destination, I tried this method and it works for me,

                            here is what the the manual says,

                            Method 1 – setting the destination via the in-game menu:

                            1. Load MSFS and go to the World Map.
                            2. Select your departure airport and then click the FLY button.
                            3. Once loaded into the flight, open the FS Traffic in-game menu.
                            4. Type the four-letter ICAO code of your destination airport into the DESTINATION ICAO field (for example,
                              EGLL for London Heathrow, EHAM for Amsterdam etc.).
                            5. Press CONFIRM.
                              Method 2 – setting the destination via the MSFS main menu:
                            6. Load MSFS and go to the World Map.
                            7. Select your departure and arrival airports and then click the FLY button.
                            8. Once loaded into the flight, open the FS Traffic in-game menu.
                            9. Confirm that the four-letter ICAO code of your destination airport is in the DESTINATION ICAO field.
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                              iamblue91
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                              I'm having this trying to fly on 25 Feb. CYVR -> KDEN. No ATC chatter other than with me either

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                              • H hunterdouglas

                                @bpfonteyn

                                Sorry, but maybe you misunderstand what i did, attached is the two methods of the manual, both say click the fly button THEN type and confirm the destination,
                                what I'm saying is from the fstraffic control centre type in the destination and confirm BEFORE you hit the fly button.
                                I had been trying for weeks with know aircraft at destination, I tried this method and it works for me,

                                here is what the the manual says,

                                Method 1 – setting the destination via the in-game menu:

                                1. Load MSFS and go to the World Map.
                                2. Select your departure airport and then click the FLY button.
                                3. Once loaded into the flight, open the FS Traffic in-game menu.
                                4. Type the four-letter ICAO code of your destination airport into the DESTINATION ICAO field (for example,
                                  EGLL for London Heathrow, EHAM for Amsterdam etc.).
                                5. Press CONFIRM.
                                  Method 2 – setting the destination via the MSFS main menu:
                                6. Load MSFS and go to the World Map.
                                7. Select your departure and arrival airports and then click the FLY button.
                                8. Once loaded into the flight, open the FS Traffic in-game menu.
                                9. Confirm that the four-letter ICAO code of your destination airport is in the DESTINATION ICAO field.
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                                max
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                                @hunterdouglas i have done that. Sometimes it works, sometimes not.

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                                  MaBeCo
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                                  That is the problem for the developers I think, I agree, same here: sometimes traffic and sometimes nothing, an empty destination airport. Last few flights were perfect, 6 flights in the weekend with 5 times a very active traffic at the destination airport and only at 1 (Frankfurt) I was alone…

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                                  • H hunterdouglas

                                    @bpfonteyn

                                    Sorry, but maybe you misunderstand what i did, attached is the two methods of the manual, both say click the fly button THEN type and confirm the destination,
                                    what I'm saying is from the fstraffic control centre type in the destination and confirm BEFORE you hit the fly button.
                                    I had been trying for weeks with know aircraft at destination, I tried this method and it works for me,

                                    here is what the the manual says,

                                    Method 1 – setting the destination via the in-game menu:

                                    1. Load MSFS and go to the World Map.
                                    2. Select your departure airport and then click the FLY button.
                                    3. Once loaded into the flight, open the FS Traffic in-game menu.
                                    4. Type the four-letter ICAO code of your destination airport into the DESTINATION ICAO field (for example,
                                      EGLL for London Heathrow, EHAM for Amsterdam etc.).
                                    5. Press CONFIRM.
                                      Method 2 – setting the destination via the MSFS main menu:
                                    6. Load MSFS and go to the World Map.
                                    7. Select your departure and arrival airports and then click the FLY button.
                                    8. Once loaded into the flight, open the FS Traffic in-game menu.
                                    9. Confirm that the four-letter ICAO code of your destination airport is in the DESTINATION ICAO field.
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                                    iamblue91
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                                    @hunterdouglas I echo this

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                                      steve67
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                                      #166

                                      As I already wrote here: https://community.justflight.com/post/19995
                                      Problem with missing traffic at destination is solved with v1.0.3 on my system!
                                      I also have traffic at destination when I

                                      • fly slower than 250kts and lower than 5000ft - e.g. GA like Turbo Arrow!
                                      • start in the air and choose destination later on in toolbar

                                      So things are way better now (at least on my system)!
                                      Thank you Justflight, FS Traffic is getting useful to me now ;-)

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                                        Myndighetene
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                                        Just had a flight from ENGM to EDDH. Plenty of parked and moving planes at ENGM. EDDH empty. It's getting really frustrating and it is ruining the experience. This time I forgot to enter EDDH in the in-game panel. But it was entered both in MSFS planning menu and in the FMC of the aircraft (Fenix A320). Shouldn't that be enough? It is way to easy to forget the in-game panel. Besides it will autofill when opened up anyway. So I really don't get it. I think the regime is too complex. I just want some planes at the airport. How hard can it be. I'm close to reintroduce Simple Traffic again. At least that is a set it and forget it piece of software... Better with ugly looking AI planes than nothing at all.

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                                          Just had a flight from ENGM to EDDH. Plenty of parked and moving planes at ENGM. EDDH empty. It's getting really frustrating and it is ruining the experience. This time I forgot to enter EDDH in the in-game panel. But it was entered both in MSFS planning menu and in the FMC of the aircraft (Fenix A320). Shouldn't that be enough? It is way to easy to forget the in-game panel. Besides it will autofill when opened up anyway. So I really don't get it. I think the regime is too complex. I just want some planes at the airport. How hard can it be. I'm close to reintroduce Simple Traffic again. At least that is a set it and forget it piece of software... Better with ugly looking AI planes than nothing at all.

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                                          BBoaBrim
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                                          @myndighetene

                                          Yes, I too really dislike this requirement to have to enter the destination ICAO into the toolbar, even if it is just to open it for populating. By the fact that it automatically populates the field, it must be getting the info from our flight planner. Therefore why can’t this be done silently behind the scenes as it were? Why did we need to add this extra input?

                                          Two days ago I flew from FMMI-EGLL, an eleven hour flight. When I arrived in EGLL, there were no AI at all. None on the ground and none arriving. I have a feeling this was due to the fact that I may have forgotten to open the JF toolbar window. I can’t remember doing it for certain. It’s a right pain in the neck having to open that wretched window field in the toolbar.

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