I use the Flitesim CLS 60 and it is a fine tool, coming from the Logitech G940 FFB stick and after two years would just like to offer an offbeat thought or two. To start with, FFB can't be left once you have sampled it. It is around 30 years for me now. The big difference with the yoke rather surprised me in the way it can ruin your ergonomics and this applies to any yoke really. Not only does it take over your desk and make it hard to use your PC for anything else, but it alters where you have to sit, screen positions and seating height, etc. God help you if a significant other likes neat and tidy surroundings or you actually have to do anything productive, even work on that PC. I still have that old G940. Two of them in fact and look at them now thinking not only how much simpler, but even better how life could be. Thankfully, I have space in my man cave or kennel and my better half would kill me if I tried to move my rig within 5 yards of the house. Do I think now that my yoke is worth it? Absolutely, but a better FFB stick would now get a LOT of interest from me. PS. I did get around the issue of not being able to use the PC for anything else. I got a mini PC which lets me use another screen to do the boring stuu of life.at 90 degrees left but turns out to be even better in that using Glassout, I can network flightsim panels onto this too and has led to me going over to the dark side for the first time since FSX and fly Glass. I would never have guessed that. Just don't tell Nick...

@afowle23 Most of the time when this comes up, it's because auto-mixture is enabled in the simulator menu. If that's not it, then please feel free to supply more details, and I will be happy to help

@PeterWillie2026 said in PS5 BAe 146/ Avro RJ: but this is a bit frustrating We can understand that. It's quite frustrating for us too. We have no control over the process once a product is submitted. Hopefully the update will get released soon.

Thanks, I will!

Oh wait! I put this in the wrong thread! Oops! Bye!

@Black-Square Thanks for the response! Yeah of course it makes sense to not delay updates that are ready any further. I note on the github of one of the creators they have added the mod as a separate variant to a few payware aircraft all ready. The downside is it isnt toggleable of course. Also says "The issue with custom variants for third-party aircrafts, such as PA28/38 is that any update to the base aircraft can break the G5 unit. Due to that, it's better to request support for custom variants directly from manufacturer of the aircraft." So it seems there is a desire for it to be implemented in a similar way to the PMS50 etc. thanks.

@Black-Square https://community.justflight.com/post/49264 After a bunch of digging this was the best thing I could find to reference what I was thinking of. At launch, Caravan propeller RPM was too low for the regular generator to power the aircraft, leading to questions about why the standby alternator was on. You made some changes to RPM values but noted the underlying sim inaccuracy.

Oh dear - I just upgraded from XP11 and re-purchased the XP12 version of this aircraft. It still (Nov 26) has this behaviour of over-steering after a small input and becoming uncontrollable. I'm also training in a Warrior IRL and can confirm - it absolutely doesn't do this!

I also just experienced engine issues on SU7.2. I will post it under its own thread.

@Mark Created a ticket months ago for this issue. Should I paste all of my findings from this thread into the ticket so it gets to dev team?

@Dinamika70 https://community.justflight.com/post/55398 This was the latest we have, posted yesterday. Hopefully everything is alright.

@tlvid That's some accusation but each to their own and you're entitled to your own opinion. For the record though, this very product has received 19 separate updates since the release. Our other GA aircraft around the same number. So that would suggest quite the opposite of leaving it to rot. These products were released some five years ago and have proved immensely popular but over time they are going to show their age and become eclipsed somewhat by more recent offerings. We try our best given the size of the team and business to improve all of our aircraft, which is no mean feat given the constant stream of sim updates, new third party add-ons for GA aircraft and the like but there comes a time when commercial reality rears its ugly head and we simply have to move on and prioritise other projects to ensure the viability and safety of the business. Furthermore and to defend ourselves further (not that it should be a requirement) we have managed just two brand new releases in the past 24 months and that's largely down to us spending the majority of our time updating current products to ensure 2024 compatibility and to give everything quality of life improvements where requested and possible. That again wouldn't suggest we're keen on leaving our products to rot. Finally, we do aim to supply a set of updates for the GA fleet (that will be the 20th update) and then we'll be following up with something a lot more exciting on this front but more on all of that fairly soon. Sorry you're not happy with how things have turned out and are currently with your PA-28 Warrior and the current solutions suggested aren't helping you but there was a bit of balance required here so I hope this post gives a little context to the situation. Thank you.

I have the same problem, and came to this forum to see if anyone else had seen this. I was surprised that no one had commented on your post. I did some more research, here's what I found, appears this is normal behavior. It seems everybody should see this happen. The full-scale deflection of the autopilot/flight director while you are on the ground in the Black Square Cessna Caravan is usually caused by one of two core simulation behaviors: Autopilot Servo Accumulation (Control "Wind-Up") If the autopilot is accidentally turned on while the aircraft is stationary on the ground, the system will attempt to correct the aircraft's current attitude to match its target (such as a specific heading or pitch). • The Problem: Because the aircraft is stationary on the tarmac and cannot move to satisfy the autopilot's commands, the autopilot continues to apply more and more trim or yoke input to compensate. • The Result: This causes the virtual autopilot servos to "wind up" to their maximum limits, driving your flight director or control surfaces to full-scale deflection. • The Fix: Ensure the autopilot (AP button) is completely disengaged until you are airborne and established in a steady climb. Active Gust Locks / Control Locks Active Gust Locks / Control Locks Black Square's advanced simulation features realistic pre-flight constraints, including physical control locks. [1] • The Problem: If you have the flight controls locked via the gust lock or the rudder lock (which can be toggled via the yoke or the Electronic Flight Bag/tablet), the physical surfaces cannot move. If an autopilot or flight director mode is initiated while these mechanical blocks are in place, the system interprets the lack of movement as an error and commands maximum deflection to try and break through the restriction. • The Fix: Always disengage your control/rudder locks and complete your flight control sweep checks prior to taxiing and takeoff.

@Black-Square I am very sorry to hear that not all is smooth sailing over there and that you're potentially having a rough time. Here's to hoping things have either resolved in a positive way quickly, or will do so in short order.