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BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues

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  • CraigC Craig

    To those customers that are having issues, please could you submit a ticket so that we can send extra files for you to test.

    https://support.justflight.com/en/support/tickets/new

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    @Craig I made like 4 tickets for the various issues I encountered. 🙂

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      @Craig I made like 4 tickets for the various issues I encountered. 🙂

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      @ConcordeAG Do you have ticket number for me to take a look at?

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      • CraigC Craig

        @ConcordeAG Do you have ticket number for me to take a look at?

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        @Craig Absolutely,

        • 46617: LLZ/GS (AP Issue)
        • 46618: FMC Issue with the DTOs
        • 46620: Something I observed with the TMS
        • 46621: Sounds
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        • CraigC Craig

          To those customers that are having issues, please could you submit a ticket so that we can send extra files for you to test.

          https://support.justflight.com/en/support/tickets/new

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          @Craig I’ve submitted a ticket already for the FMS a few days ago and another reply to it this morning in fear it had been stuck/missed. Would love the new files to try? #46589

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            @IanB2469 said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

            I've not been able to even do the tutorial flight, really disappointed.

            What is preventing you from flying the tutorial? It doesn't use the FMC so presumably you are encountering another issue? There should be nothing in any of the 146 software versions that prevent the tutorial from being flown as it was written using v1.0.

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            @Martyn I assumed I’d be using the FMS for navigation. Maybe that’s my mistake, but I’d like the aircraft full operational before I launch into the skies! I’ve added my ticket number to this post, more than happy to try new files if you’d like to send. Hopefully get up and running!

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              @Craig I’ve submitted a ticket already for the FMS a few days ago and another reply to it this morning in fear it had been stuck/missed. Would love the new files to try? #46589

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              @IanB2469 said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

              @Craig I’ve submitted a ticket already for the FMS a few days ago and another reply to it this morning in fear it had been stuck/missed. Would love the new files to try? #46589

              Thanks for this I see the ticket and assured it hasn't been missed you should receive an email shortly

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                I've just raised 46654 for the issues I found with SIDs and STARs! 🙂

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                  @IanB2469 said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                  @Craig I’ve submitted a ticket already for the FMS a few days ago and another reply to it this morning in fear it had been stuck/missed. Would love the new files to try? #46589

                  Thanks for this I see the ticket and assured it hasn't been missed you should receive an email shortly

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                  @Craig Hi Craig. I responded yesterday to the ticket and email, still to no avail. Do you have any update re: the issue around the FMS. This is a deal-breaker for me and a working FMS is one of my main must-haves before I buy addons these days. Please advise accordingly!

                  Thank you.

                  Ian.

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                    Hi Ian,

                    Craig will get back to you regarding the ticket but please note that the issue of the FMC not appearing at all for some users is very much a priority and will be addressed.

                    Thanks
                    Martyn

                    Martyn - Development Manager

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                      It's a shame to see that version 4 is worse then version 3. In version 4 the AP is not able to follow the FMC again (like previous versions except V3). The heading selector is connected to the CRS againg. In the FMC the distance to the next waypoint is not recognized (it stays on 1 nm). It doesn't recognize when passing a waypoint. Only pressing DTO to the next waypoint will fix this. As a result, the FMC doesn't know the remaining distance to destination either. I will deinstall V4 and go back to V3.

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                        It's a shame to see that version 4 is worse then version 3. In version 4 the AP is not able to follow the FMC again (like previous versions except V3). The heading selector is connected to the CRS againg. In the FMC the distance to the next waypoint is not recognized (it stays on 1 nm). It doesn't recognize when passing a waypoint. Only pressing DTO to the next waypoint will fix this. As a result, the FMC doesn't know the remaining distance to destination either. I will deinstall V4 and go back to V3.

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                        @Elientje said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                        It's a shame to see that version 4 is worse then version 3. In version 4 the AP is not able to follow the FMC again (like previous versions except V3). The heading selector is connected to the CRS againg. In the FMC the distance to the next waypoint is not recognized (it stays on 1 nm). It doesn't recognize when passing a waypoint. Only pressing DTO to the next waypoint will fix this. As a result, the FMC doesn't know the remaining distance to destination either. I will deinstall V4 and go back to V3.

                        I can't confirm that. Just happily cruising with Version 4, with FMS/LNAV working fine. Are you sure to have the HSI Switch in RNAV position ?

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                          @Elientje said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                          It's a shame to see that version 4 is worse then version 3. In version 4 the AP is not able to follow the FMC again (like previous versions except V3). The heading selector is connected to the CRS againg. In the FMC the distance to the next waypoint is not recognized (it stays on 1 nm). It doesn't recognize when passing a waypoint. Only pressing DTO to the next waypoint will fix this. As a result, the FMC doesn't know the remaining distance to destination either. I will deinstall V4 and go back to V3.

                          I can't confirm that. Just happily cruising with Version 4, with FMS/LNAV working fine. Are you sure to have the HSI Switch in RNAV position ?

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                          @Mikealpha Does your fmc DTO function work okay in 1.4 ?
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                            @Mikealpha Does your fmc DTO function work okay in 1.4 ?
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                            Mikealpha
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                            @alanbyrne94

                            Sorry, I did not use that and just landed. Will try next flight.

                            @Martyn , only remaining issue for me (besides some FMS stuff ) is the horrible LOC Intercept. Either it turns away from LOC, or it is similar to the attached Screenshot Rwy06 at EDNY. You see the aircraft is already crossing/overflying the LOC, but as you can see on the ADI, there is no attempt to turn. Even when turning at that point, it would massively overshoot it.

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                              Just bought this but found I could not load a STAR in the FMS. When I tried to do so it loaded the ILS approach in place of the STAR. Desired STAR was CYHZ FUNDY2.EBONY. Pictures below:

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                              • M Mikealpha

                                @Elientje said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                                It's a shame to see that version 4 is worse then version 3. In version 4 the AP is not able to follow the FMC again (like previous versions except V3). The heading selector is connected to the CRS againg. In the FMC the distance to the next waypoint is not recognized (it stays on 1 nm). It doesn't recognize when passing a waypoint. Only pressing DTO to the next waypoint will fix this. As a result, the FMC doesn't know the remaining distance to destination either. I will deinstall V4 and go back to V3.

                                I can't confirm that. Just happily cruising with Version 4, with FMS/LNAV working fine. Are you sure to have the HSI Switch in RNAV position ?

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                                @Mikealpha I reinstalled version 4 tonight, and... it worked this time!!! 🙂 . The plane behaves much better and indeed follows the FMS. I liked to fly it, and for the first time my passengers were happy either. The only thing I encountered is the ILS turning away from the right direction instead of turning in the right direction for GS. NAV was selected, the V/L was engaged (button was activated), and on catching the ILS it turned away the wrong direction. Besides from this (and the known FMS issues), I liked this flight and I liked the plane!!!

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                                  @Mikealpha I reinstalled version 4 tonight, and... it worked this time!!! 🙂 . The plane behaves much better and indeed follows the FMS. I liked to fly it, and for the first time my passengers were happy either. The only thing I encountered is the ILS turning away from the right direction instead of turning in the right direction for GS. NAV was selected, the V/L was engaged (button was activated), and on catching the ILS it turned away the wrong direction. Besides from this (and the known FMS issues), I liked this flight and I liked the plane!!!

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                                  @Elientje said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                                  @Mikealpha I reinstalled version 4 tonight, and... it worked this time!!! 🙂 . The plane behaves much better and indeed follows the FMS. I liked to fly it, and for the first time my passengers were happy either. The only thing I encountered is the ILS turning away from the right direction instead of turning in the right direction for GS. NAV was selected, the V/L was engaged (button was activated), and on catching the ILS it turned away the wrong direction. Besides from this (and the known FMS issues), I liked this flight and I liked the plane!!!

                                  Great it turned out much better for you now.
                                  I think the plane deserves a custom ILS routine. Currently there is no other choice than to fly the ILS manually. Fortunately it´s a joy to fly it manually.

                                  Mike

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                                    @Elientje said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                                    @Mikealpha I reinstalled version 4 tonight, and... it worked this time!!! 🙂 . The plane behaves much better and indeed follows the FMS. I liked to fly it, and for the first time my passengers were happy either. The only thing I encountered is the ILS turning away from the right direction instead of turning in the right direction for GS. NAV was selected, the V/L was engaged (button was activated), and on catching the ILS it turned away the wrong direction. Besides from this (and the known FMS issues), I liked this flight and I liked the plane!!!

                                    Great it turned out much better for you now.
                                    I think the plane deserves a custom ILS routine. Currently there is no other choice than to fly the ILS manually. Fortunately it´s a joy to fly it manually.

                                    Mike

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                                    @Mikealpha said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                                    I think the plane deserves a custom ILS routine. Currently there is no other choice than to fly the ILS manually.

                                    I'd vote for that too... And would be nice to see the first attempt of some fixes for the FMC, the DTO Bug really spoils online flying 😞

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                                      @Mikealpha said in BAe 146 Professional P3D v5 FMS/AP Issues:

                                      I think the plane deserves a custom ILS routine. Currently there is no other choice than to fly the ILS manually.

                                      I'd vote for that too... And would be nice to see the first attempt of some fixes for the FMC, the DTO Bug really spoils online flying 😞

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                                      @ConcordeAG agreed the DTO is the main fix the fmc needs, sids and stars have easy work around such as request vectors but when getting a dto and you start going off course, atc are quick to pull you up on it.

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                                        I have noticed these two issues :

                                        • FMC: select SID/STAR - I can't select all of the listed SIDs or STARs. E.g. I can only choose 1 and 2 , even though 4 are displayed. 3 and 4 are not selectable (e.g. at EGNX). If 7 or 8 SIDs or STARs are displayed, only the first 4 are selectable.
                                        • already mentioned further above : LNAV overshoots waypoints too much, struggles to come back on track.
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                                        @Mikealpha I have the same issue...😞

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                                          Sigh, yes. I just made a quick test, manually fully established on the LOC. Then turned on AP and V/L mode right away. It doesn't do anything, let's it deviate without any attempt to correct. Ar least for me it does not work at all.

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