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Propeller feathering in flight

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    MiRexer
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    I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
    Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
    Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
    Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
    Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
    Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
    Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27

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      I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
      Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
      Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
      Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
      Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
      Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
      Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27

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      meh1951
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      @MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:

      I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
      Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
      Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
      Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
      Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
      Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
      Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27

      Thanks for the info!

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          I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
          Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
          Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
          Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
          Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
          Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
          Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27

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          brettmercier
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          @MiRexer
          I’ve tried exactly that with no success, when I bring the propeller below the detent, it doesn’t go in feathered mode in the sim (lever doesn’t move to feather). It works for you? Any other option checked or unchecked that you are not mentioning the message?

          Thanks a lot!

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            MiRexer
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            Are you quick with feathering it? When I was first trying I was taking my time and I couldn't get it into feather.

            From the manual:

            "The propeller blade angle of a constant speed propeller is controlled via high pressure oil
            admitted to a cylinder in the propeller hub, metered by a governor. In a multi-engine aircraft, the
            absence of oil pressure will reduce the propeller blade pitch to the feathered position, but only
            when the oil pressure is reduced quickly; otherwise, counter-weighted feather locking pins will
            prevent the blades from feathering during a normal shutdown, or often an intentional shutdown
            in flight. For this reason, the propeller levers must be placed in the feather detent quickly during
            engine shutdown (while there is still oil in the propeller hub) to overcome the feather locking pins
            and feather the propeller. "

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              Are you quick with feathering it? When I was first trying I was taking my time and I couldn't get it into feather.

              From the manual:

              "The propeller blade angle of a constant speed propeller is controlled via high pressure oil
              admitted to a cylinder in the propeller hub, metered by a governor. In a multi-engine aircraft, the
              absence of oil pressure will reduce the propeller blade pitch to the feathered position, but only
              when the oil pressure is reduced quickly; otherwise, counter-weighted feather locking pins will
              prevent the blades from feathering during a normal shutdown, or often an intentional shutdown
              in flight. For this reason, the propeller levers must be placed in the feather detent quickly during
              engine shutdown (while there is still oil in the propeller hub) to overcome the feather locking pins
              and feather the propeller. "

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              brettmercier
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              @MiRexer Well in fact I was trying on the ground, just checking if the blue propeller lever would visibly move to the feather range (which it didn't). You mean that your keybind does engage feathering in flight without moving the lever? Well I guess that's useful, but I was hoping to also use that on planes where the startup sequence calls for feather position for the propellers...

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                meh1951
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                I can only get SPAD to work.

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                  MiRexer
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                  You mentioned the animation - and that's why I mentioned the above. No, mine goes right into feather on the ground. I made a video for you:

                  https://horizon.meta.com/shares/NGFE6yzx9bG4e91Ak8Coi2uXWZn8IJ

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                    You mentioned the animation - and that's why I mentioned the above. No, mine goes right into feather on the ground. I made a video for you:

                    https://horizon.meta.com/shares/NGFE6yzx9bG4e91Ak8Coi2uXWZn8IJ

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                    @MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:

                    Unable to access the link on my side. But assuming that it shows the blue propeller lever going all the way down to feather, then I don't know what's up... We're using the same hardware so we should have the same experience... Any other thing toggled/not toggled in the options of either Pitch Hi or Toggle Feather, except "set control on release" for Pitch Hi?

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                      I use SPAD.neXt with the Bravo throttle, and I use MSFS 2020 and 2024 controls for the propeller axis, and the following commands for the "reverse" detent (button) for the Bravo, for feathering:

                      Button pushed:
                      10 of the following pairs:
                      Send PROP_PITCH1_DECR-Event (or PROP_PITCH2_DECR-Event for Prop 2)
                      Delay execution for 100 ms

                      Button released:
                      Send PROP_PITCH1_HI-Event

                      I find this to work in both 2020 and 2024.

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                      gustavpicora
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                      @KRoy7 Hello Roy,
                      I have been trying to feather the prop, and I was able to do it while in flight.. but if this I try while taking off then the prop keeps on going.. is there something else to be done?

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                        @MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:

                        Unable to access the link on my side. But assuming that it shows the blue propeller lever going all the way down to feather, then I don't know what's up... We're using the same hardware so we should have the same experience... Any other thing toggled/not toggled in the options of either Pitch Hi or Toggle Feather, except "set control on release" for Pitch Hi?

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                        MiRexer
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                        @brettmercier Hmmm, I'll upload it to youtube - I showed all of the settings in the video as well. Those 3 were the only ones I could find.

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                          ok I made it work (feather it after takeoff).. but I have to be extremely fast to put the throttle down and the prop leveller to feather. I wonder if this is as IRL, or after take off if an engine fails, it will continue to spin. Funny tou when I fail the engine already airborne.. IDK 1000ft agl, i dont need to be that fast, I can bring throttle down, then the prop leveller, and then the mixture.. without rush and the prop will feather.

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                            @MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:

                            Unable to access the link on my side. But assuming that it shows the blue propeller lever going all the way down to feather, then I don't know what's up... We're using the same hardware so we should have the same experience... Any other thing toggled/not toggled in the options of either Pitch Hi or Toggle Feather, except "set control on release" for Pitch Hi?

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                            @brettmercier My apologies - I evidently did use spad at some point to set it up - but I don't remember when or HOW lol. Just to be sure today I didn't load up spad to test and it didn't work. So sorry

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                              gustavpicora
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                              @MiRexer are you able to feather already right after takeoff? or just once in the air?

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                                Yes, but you have to be fast. I believe whats happening is that at low airspeeds the oil pressure drops fast because the prop speed drops quickly and causes the issue I posted about above with the locking pins.

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