Propeller feathering in flight
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Thanks Nick. I will have a look into it the next time. Do you happen to know any possible solution for this MSFS control issue that makes it difficult to put the props into feather using Bravo throttle quadrant? I can get it back almost to feather but I have to use my mouse to completely put the prop lever into feather..
@kyrre1978 said in Propeller feathering in flight:
Thanks Nick. I will have a look into it the next time. Do you happen to know any possible solution for this MSFS control issue that makes it difficult to put the props into feather using Bravo throttle quadrant? I can get it back almost to feather but I have to use my mouse to completely put the prop lever into feather..
You need a third party program to do it, the MSFS feathering controls have never worked on anything ever for me.
If you don't already have something like SPAD or FSUIPC, I think Mobiflight will do the job, and it's free.
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I use SPAD.neXt with the Bravo throttle, and I use MSFS 2020 and 2024 controls for the propeller axis, and the following commands for the "reverse" detent (button) for the Bravo, for feathering:
Button pushed:
10 of the following pairs:
Send PROP_PITCH1_DECR-Event (or PROP_PITCH2_DECR-Event for Prop 2)
Delay execution for 100 msButton released:
Send PROP_PITCH1_HI-EventI find this to work in both 2020 and 2024.
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I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27 -
I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27@MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:
I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27Thanks for the info!
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I've been able to implement feathering all within MSFS2024 with the bravo throttle:
Propeller 1 axis - Joystick RAXIS Z - set inverted
Propeller 1 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 26 - set control on release
Propeller 2 axis - Joystick RAXIS Y - set inverted
Propeller 2 Pitch Hi - Joystick button 27 - set control on release
Toggle Feather Switch 1 - Joystick button 26
Toggle Feather Switch 2 - Joystick button 27@MiRexer
I’ve tried exactly that with no success, when I bring the propeller below the detent, it doesn’t go in feathered mode in the sim (lever doesn’t move to feather). It works for you? Any other option checked or unchecked that you are not mentioning the message?Thanks a lot!
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Are you quick with feathering it? When I was first trying I was taking my time and I couldn't get it into feather.
From the manual:
"The propeller blade angle of a constant speed propeller is controlled via high pressure oil
admitted to a cylinder in the propeller hub, metered by a governor. In a multi-engine aircraft, the
absence of oil pressure will reduce the propeller blade pitch to the feathered position, but only
when the oil pressure is reduced quickly; otherwise, counter-weighted feather locking pins will
prevent the blades from feathering during a normal shutdown, or often an intentional shutdown
in flight. For this reason, the propeller levers must be placed in the feather detent quickly during
engine shutdown (while there is still oil in the propeller hub) to overcome the feather locking pins
and feather the propeller. " -
Are you quick with feathering it? When I was first trying I was taking my time and I couldn't get it into feather.
From the manual:
"The propeller blade angle of a constant speed propeller is controlled via high pressure oil
admitted to a cylinder in the propeller hub, metered by a governor. In a multi-engine aircraft, the
absence of oil pressure will reduce the propeller blade pitch to the feathered position, but only
when the oil pressure is reduced quickly; otherwise, counter-weighted feather locking pins will
prevent the blades from feathering during a normal shutdown, or often an intentional shutdown
in flight. For this reason, the propeller levers must be placed in the feather detent quickly during
engine shutdown (while there is still oil in the propeller hub) to overcome the feather locking pins
and feather the propeller. "@MiRexer Well in fact I was trying on the ground, just checking if the blue propeller lever would visibly move to the feather range (which it didn't). You mean that your keybind does engage feathering in flight without moving the lever? Well I guess that's useful, but I was hoping to also use that on planes where the startup sequence calls for feather position for the propellers...
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You mentioned the animation - and that's why I mentioned the above. No, mine goes right into feather on the ground. I made a video for you:
https://horizon.meta.com/shares/NGFE6yzx9bG4e91Ak8Coi2uXWZn8IJ
@MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:
Unable to access the link on my side. But assuming that it shows the blue propeller lever going all the way down to feather, then I don't know what's up... We're using the same hardware so we should have the same experience... Any other thing toggled/not toggled in the options of either Pitch Hi or Toggle Feather, except "set control on release" for Pitch Hi?
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I use SPAD.neXt with the Bravo throttle, and I use MSFS 2020 and 2024 controls for the propeller axis, and the following commands for the "reverse" detent (button) for the Bravo, for feathering:
Button pushed:
10 of the following pairs:
Send PROP_PITCH1_DECR-Event (or PROP_PITCH2_DECR-Event for Prop 2)
Delay execution for 100 msButton released:
Send PROP_PITCH1_HI-EventI find this to work in both 2020 and 2024.
@KRoy7 Hello Roy,
I have been trying to feather the prop, and I was able to do it while in flight.. but if this I try while taking off then the prop keeps on going.. is there something else to be done? -
@MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:
Unable to access the link on my side. But assuming that it shows the blue propeller lever going all the way down to feather, then I don't know what's up... We're using the same hardware so we should have the same experience... Any other thing toggled/not toggled in the options of either Pitch Hi or Toggle Feather, except "set control on release" for Pitch Hi?
@brettmercier Hmmm, I'll upload it to youtube - I showed all of the settings in the video as well. Those 3 were the only ones I could find.
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ok I made it work (feather it after takeoff).. but I have to be extremely fast to put the throttle down and the prop leveller to feather. I wonder if this is as IRL, or after take off if an engine fails, it will continue to spin. Funny tou when I fail the engine already airborne.. IDK 1000ft agl, i dont need to be that fast, I can bring throttle down, then the prop leveller, and then the mixture.. without rush and the prop will feather.
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@MiRexer said in Propeller feathering in flight:
Unable to access the link on my side. But assuming that it shows the blue propeller lever going all the way down to feather, then I don't know what's up... We're using the same hardware so we should have the same experience... Any other thing toggled/not toggled in the options of either Pitch Hi or Toggle Feather, except "set control on release" for Pitch Hi?
@brettmercier My apologies - I evidently did use spad at some point to set it up - but I don't remember when or HOW lol. Just to be sure today I didn't load up spad to test and it didn't work. So sorry
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@MiRexer are you able to feather already right after takeoff? or just once in the air?
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Theoretically the locking pins will not activate so long as the prop lever is moved back from the full fine setting, and then a simple looking and movement of the prop lever with a mouse will allow the engine to be feathered... Other wise for feathering one engine and keeping the other one at high rpm is currently not possible natively in any MSFS version. If this matters to you I highly recommend Spad.neXt
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Theoretically the locking pins will not activate so long as the prop lever is moved back from the full fine setting, and then a simple looking and movement of the prop lever with a mouse will allow the engine to be feathered... Other wise for feathering one engine and keeping the other one at high rpm is currently not possible natively in any MSFS version. If this matters to you I highly recommend Spad.neXt
@SadBucket I have my bravo throttle configured with spad.next and i have to send the prop leveler quite fast to the bottom where the button there activates the feather position. So i dont do it with the mouse. Any suggestion on what can be improved?
here is what i do there.
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@SadBucket I have my bravo throttle configured with spad.next and i have to send the prop leveler quite fast to the bottom where the button there activates the feather position. So i dont do it with the mouse. Any suggestion on what can be improved?
here is what i do there.
@gustavpicora I don't use Spad, but in my FSUIPC binding I use a value greater than 25. I think I decrease by 30 or 50.