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Coming frgom the MSFS forum. They prepare "an update about SU15"..... Which means more delays. Please release the Duke without SU15. It will be December until Asobo gets his *** moving.
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Indeed, I would have elected to release the Dukes by now if the ground handling physics were the only consideration. Unfortunately, the issue lies with the unresolved bug in the Working Title GNS 530 that was introduced last December. Currently, the only solution is to edit the files on your computer, which I thought was an unacceptable solution for the newcomers to that might be joining us with the Duke. You can read my full statement here.
I'm sure this is disappointing to some of you here, because you are likely already familiar with this bug, and ready to enjoy the Dukes. Sadly, these are the considerations we must make when selling a product to a broad audience of users of all different experience levels. Thank you all for waiting!
@Black-Square We have no ETA on SU15... could be another week or a month.
Please release the Dukes... I swear we not going to complain about anything which does not work because of SU14. 🥺👉👈 -
Yes, I also would like to earnestly ask Black Square to please pull the trigger on a release. This could drag on for additional weeks yet (at minimum!) otherwise. I know the Dukes work well in virtually all respects on SU14 because I’ve watched upwards of ten YouTube content makers enjoying them on SU14 at this point. :)
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https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sim-update-15-delayed/640816
And again....
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Being blunt and this is just my stupid opinion, they should just release it with a big disclaimer that it's not fully ready. If anyone has issues and attempts to send a support ticket it should just be ignored because it's on them. Most people who are day one buyers I'd imagine are aware of the issues so hopefully they are fixed soon. What do I know though I'm just hyped for the release :)
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Now we have to wait another month... at least. And I can already see that asobo breaks something else in this time which delays this crap again.
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@TallyNole I don’t think the airplane is in early access , I believe they just wanted to release it fully compatible with the WT GNS’s! But as per seen in the videos is completely done and fully fly able so I’m up to purchase even if they have to issue an update if SU15 breaks the airplane
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Yeah I'm sure the black square team planned to wait for SU15 but honestly as a customer this wait is painfull, I've been waiting on this one for sooo long and honestly it sucks to get hyped for the release and the get disapointed one time after another. From the YT previews I've seen it looks totally finished. A suberb product as all Black Square products are. So please Black Square team, think about releasing it.
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Yeah I'm sure the black square team planned to wait for SU15 but honestly as a customer this wait is painfull, I've been waiting on this one for sooo long and honestly it sucks to get hyped for the release and the get disapointed one time after another. From the YT previews I've seen it looks totally finished. A suberb product as all Black Square products are. So please Black Square team, think about releasing it.
@diegoafov yes please @Black-Square say something
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I've been watching this thread for quite a while. All the people trying to get the Dukes released before SU15 had me kind of rolling my eyes at first, but I gotta say, it really is getting quite frustrating watching this damn update keep getting delayed over and over again.
So, not that it's probably worth anything, and not that anyone asked, but this is my vote in an increasing group of votes to somehow have the Dukes released before SU15. This waiting for a finished product is something else. And you know Asobo couldn't care less that they are delaying this.
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Hello All,
I wish I had stayed up to date responding to all your messages, because there are too many to address all of them at once now! Thank you all for your input and humor regarding this unfortunate situation.
Earlier today, I believe I arrived at a solution that should allow newcomers to steer clear of the WT GNS issue, but allow those already familiar with the issue to enjoy the aircraft on SU14 or SU15 Beta with all the GPS options.
As some of you mentioned above, 90% of the issue here was a bug introduced into the WT GNS 530/430 in SU14 that affected all other GPS units and autopilots in my aircraft. The other 10% was the new SU15 ground handling physics. The aircraft should be perfectly enjoyable on SU14, but lack some of the improved physics. On SU15, I have seen strange weathervaning when parked in high winds (>30kts), which I had hoped would be resolved by now.
Thank you all for your patience. It's been a delight to see so many people excited for the aircraft after watching the pre-release coverage this week. There will be more coverage this week, and hopefully an official message from Just Flight and myself regarding how we decide to handle a pre-SU15 release.
Blue Skies, Everyone!
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Hello All,
I wish I had stayed up to date responding to all your messages, because there are too many to address all of them at once now! Thank you all for your input and humor regarding this unfortunate situation.
Earlier today, I believe I arrived at a solution that should allow newcomers to steer clear of the WT GNS issue, but allow those already familiar with the issue to enjoy the aircraft on SU14 or SU15 Beta with all the GPS options.
As some of you mentioned above, 90% of the issue here was a bug introduced into the WT GNS 530/430 in SU14 that affected all other GPS units and autopilots in my aircraft. The other 10% was the new SU15 ground handling physics. The aircraft should be perfectly enjoyable on SU14, but lack some of the improved physics. On SU15, I have seen strange weathervaning when parked in high winds (>30kts), which I had hoped would be resolved by now.
Thank you all for your patience. It's been a delight to see so many people excited for the aircraft after watching the pre-release coverage this week. There will be more coverage this week, and hopefully an official message from Just Flight and myself regarding how we decide to handle a pre-SU15 release.
Blue Skies, Everyone!
Nick C.@Black-Square - Thanks so much for clarifying where you and JustFlight are at in regards to this ongoing SU15 dilemma, and I’m glad to hear you’ve begun considering options for a release prior to SU15. As much as I’m looking forward to the improved ground physics in SU15, in my opinion the time spent coping with the sometimes annoying SU14 ground physics is minimal in comparison to actual flying time, and I (and many others, I’m sure) are more than ready to fly the Dukes!
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Hello All,
I wish I had stayed up to date responding to all your messages, because there are too many to address all of them at once now! Thank you all for your input and humor regarding this unfortunate situation.
Earlier today, I believe I arrived at a solution that should allow newcomers to steer clear of the WT GNS issue, but allow those already familiar with the issue to enjoy the aircraft on SU14 or SU15 Beta with all the GPS options.
As some of you mentioned above, 90% of the issue here was a bug introduced into the WT GNS 530/430 in SU14 that affected all other GPS units and autopilots in my aircraft. The other 10% was the new SU15 ground handling physics. The aircraft should be perfectly enjoyable on SU14, but lack some of the improved physics. On SU15, I have seen strange weathervaning when parked in high winds (>30kts), which I had hoped would be resolved by now.
Thank you all for your patience. It's been a delight to see so many people excited for the aircraft after watching the pre-release coverage this week. There will be more coverage this week, and hopefully an official message from Just Flight and myself regarding how we decide to handle a pre-SU15 release.
Blue Skies, Everyone!
Nick C.@Black-Square GOOD news!
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Hello All,
I wish I had stayed up to date responding to all your messages, because there are too many to address all of them at once now! Thank you all for your input and humor regarding this unfortunate situation.
Earlier today, I believe I arrived at a solution that should allow newcomers to steer clear of the WT GNS issue, but allow those already familiar with the issue to enjoy the aircraft on SU14 or SU15 Beta with all the GPS options.
As some of you mentioned above, 90% of the issue here was a bug introduced into the WT GNS 530/430 in SU14 that affected all other GPS units and autopilots in my aircraft. The other 10% was the new SU15 ground handling physics. The aircraft should be perfectly enjoyable on SU14, but lack some of the improved physics. On SU15, I have seen strange weathervaning when parked in high winds (>30kts), which I had hoped would be resolved by now.
Thank you all for your patience. It's been a delight to see so many people excited for the aircraft after watching the pre-release coverage this week. There will be more coverage this week, and hopefully an official message from Just Flight and myself regarding how we decide to handle a pre-SU15 release.
Blue Skies, Everyone!
Nick C.@Black-Square Fantastic, sounds awesome! Looking forward to hearing that announcement, my Paypal balance is well beyond ready haha.
By the way - just curious - is there a Black Square discord server, or do you have a presence on Discord of some kind? I wanted to run an idea by you in a non-public method of communication. Or perhaps email?
Thank you so much for getting back to us!
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I'm amazed at how quickly you have all seen this and replied! I'll do my best to deliver you the aircraft as soon as I can, and in the best shape for everyone to enjoy before SU15.
I have resisted the many requests for me to join Discord, because I am generally not a fan of social media, so I am very happy that so many of you have found me here to communicate with and ask your questions of me. I've always encouraged others to start a Black Square Discord server, but I'm afraid that I wouldn't have any time to work on my new aircraft while feeling pressured to respond to everyone on Discord. @DxMarovitch, you can direct-message me right here on the JF forums, and I will look forward to hearing what you have on your mind.
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I'm amazed at how quickly you have all seen this and replied! I'll do my best to deliver you the aircraft as soon as I can, and in the best shape for everyone to enjoy before SU15.
I have resisted the many requests for me to join Discord, because I am generally not a fan of social media, so I am very happy that so many of you have found me here to communicate with and ask your questions of me. I've always encouraged others to start a Black Square Discord server, but I'm afraid that I wouldn't have any time to work on my new aircraft while feeling pressured to respond to everyone on Discord. @DxMarovitch, you can direct-message me right here on the JF forums, and I will look forward to hearing what you have on your mind.
@Black-Square fantastic news ! Don’t worry about the discord we all here will be ready to help you ! You just keep developing those great aircraft ! (I’ve sent a private message by the way)
I believe you made our day!
Looking forward to buy the aircraft on release
