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    @sparrows69 Hopefully it's not the same problem as the Carenado PC12. With this bird, the frame rate is also halved after about an hour of flight time. After what feels like 10 software updates, they still haven't gotten the problem under control.
    There it is connected to an instrument that nobody really needs, the Avidyne EX500, which can display navigation data. Ultimately, disabling this instrument completely prevents the memory leak.

    I saw that there is a similar function in the Weather Radar (MAP) in the F28. I am not aware that the Honeywell Primus series (or Sperry) offers such a display in addition to the GMAP function. Would be just ballast in an old school plane anyway ;-).

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    sparrows69
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    @delfin25
    Where did you find this info in F28 that using such a function? I mean, could be write in ticket to point them towards this.

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      @delfin25
      Where did you find this info in F28 that using such a function? I mean, could be write in ticket to point them towards this.

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      @sparrows69 In the manual on page 123. The MAP function is described there. However, unlike the real Honeywell system, this is "only" a display of the airport ICAOs and does not provide real ground mapping.

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        @sparrows69 In the manual on page 123. The MAP function is described there. However, unlike the real Honeywell system, this is "only" a display of the airport ICAOs and does not provide real ground mapping.

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        @delfin25

        Problem seem does not be related , so far I had GPS activated, and face the problem, too.

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          @delfin25

          Problem seem does not be related , so far I had GPS activated, and face the problem, too.

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          @sparrows69 When one instrument is activated on an MSFS aircraft, it does not necessarily mean that the other instrument will be completely deactivated. It is not loaded when loading the aircraft until it is excluded in panel.cfg.

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            @sparrows69 When one instrument is activated on an MSFS aircraft, it does not necessarily mean that the other instrument will be completely deactivated. It is not loaded when loading the aircraft until it is excluded in panel.cfg.

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            @delfin25

            From panel config,but yes, at the end we don´t know,

            [VCockpit08]
            size_mm=1024,748
            pixel_size=1024,748
            texture=WXR
            background_color=0,0,255
            htmlgauge00=Airliners/JF_F28/WXR/jf_f28_wxr.html, 0,0,1024,748

            //[VCockpit08]
            //size_mm=1024,1024
            //pixel_size=1024,1024
            //texture=WXR
            //background_color=0,0,255
            //htmlgauge00=WasmInstrument/WasmInstrument.html?wasm_module=JF_F28_WASM.wasm&wasm_gauge=WXR, 0,0,1024,1024

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              @delfin25

              From panel config,but yes, at the end we don´t know,

              [VCockpit08]
              size_mm=1024,748
              pixel_size=1024,748
              texture=WXR
              background_color=0,0,255
              htmlgauge00=Airliners/JF_F28/WXR/jf_f28_wxr.html, 0,0,1024,748

              //[VCockpit08]
              //size_mm=1024,1024
              //pixel_size=1024,1024
              //texture=WXR
              //background_color=0,0,255
              //htmlgauge00=WasmInstrument/WasmInstrument.html?wasm_module=JF_F28_WASM.wasm&wasm_gauge=WXR, 0,0,1024,1024

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              delfin25
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              @sparrows69 You are right!

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                @delfin25

                From panel config,but yes, at the end we don´t know,

                [VCockpit08]
                size_mm=1024,748
                pixel_size=1024,748
                texture=WXR
                background_color=0,0,255
                htmlgauge00=Airliners/JF_F28/WXR/jf_f28_wxr.html, 0,0,1024,748

                //[VCockpit08]
                //size_mm=1024,1024
                //pixel_size=1024,1024
                //texture=WXR
                //background_color=0,0,255
                //htmlgauge00=WasmInstrument/WasmInstrument.html?wasm_module=JF_F28_WASM.wasm&wasm_gauge=WXR, 0,0,1024,1024

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                delfin25
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                @sparrows69 I did another test flight with the F28 from EDDL to EDDT. I didn't turn on the weather radar. The landing went without stuttering. Was that coincidence?

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                  @sparrows69 I did another test flight with the F28 from EDDL to EDDT. I didn't turn on the weather radar. The landing went without stuttering. Was that coincidence?

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                  Exp131
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                  @delfin25 I think your flight was too short to reveal the issue.

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                    I flew a multi-sector route lasting over six hours in total, over big cities and airports, real weather and traffic etc, on a three year old gaming laptop, and didn't encounter this issue. We're investigating but there must be several factors to this.

                    Martyn - Development Manager

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                    • MartynM Martyn

                      I flew a multi-sector route lasting over six hours in total, over big cities and airports, real weather and traffic etc, on a three year old gaming laptop, and didn't encounter this issue. We're investigating but there must be several factors to this.

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                      Derek
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                      It seems this issue may not be unique:

                      https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/636058-gsx-gives-a-touchdown-stutter/

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                      • DerekD Derek

                        It seems this issue may not be unique:

                        https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/636058-gsx-gives-a-touchdown-stutter/

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                        JetNoise
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                        Here also: Users report having the issue and others don't....
                        In these cases its all about approaching an airport -> objects loading in, depending on LOD settings more or less -> causing stutters -> more or less, depending on your system specs and oc ! any other factors of your installs ....

                        Never ending stories ...
                        ( i've even seen people reporting "issues solved" by cleaning out their PCs, because of overheating - thermal throttleing - reason dust 😉

                        (not F28 related)

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                          I've tried a couple of flights without touching the weather radar controls, and both went fine. That seems the problem there.

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                            I've tried a couple of flights without touching the weather radar controls, and both went fine. That seems the problem there.

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                            delfin25
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                            @exp131 The weather radar is the problem for me at the moment. I only fly short haul and with weather radar there is stutter. Last time it even happened mid-flight. Frame rate dropped to 10 FPS. I just did another short-haul flight EBBR - EDDS without weather radar and everything went very smoothly.

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                            • DerekD Derek

                              It seems this issue may not be unique:

                              https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/636058-gsx-gives-a-touchdown-stutter/

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                              delfin25
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                              @derek I don't have that ground handling stuff (GSX). I focus on flying. I haven't had any problems with any other aircraft of any complexity except the Carenado PC12 with this navigational bullshit (Avidyne EX500) and this fake Honeywell Sperry weather radar in the Fokker F28. By the way, PMDG decided against the weather radar, and that's a good thing.

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                                @derek I don't have that ground handling stuff (GSX). I focus on flying. I haven't had any problems with any other aircraft of any complexity except the Carenado PC12 with this navigational bullshit (Avidyne EX500) and this fake Honeywell Sperry weather radar in the Fokker F28. By the way, PMDG decided against the weather radar, and that's a good thing.

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                                @delfin25 said in Performance on landing:

                                By the way, PMDG decided against the weather radar, and that's a good thing.

                                Where they lead, us mere mortals must surely follow. Maybe time to reconsider those EFB thingies as well 🙂

                                If the problem is solved for you with turning off the radar then that may point to the issue - as long as that solves it for everyone, but there does seem to be more to it.

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                                  There must be something other than just F28 in this as I have had no issues at all with performance thru complete flights even with the WX on.

                                  https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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                                    There must be something other than just F28 in this as I have had no issues at all with performance thru complete flights even with the WX on.

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                                    Exp131
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                                    @woolies, how long are your flights? Try to fly longer than an hour and a half.

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                                      Here also: Users report having the issue and others don't....
                                      In these cases its all about approaching an airport -> objects loading in, depending on LOD settings more or less -> causing stutters -> more or less, depending on your system specs and oc ! any other factors of your installs ....

                                      Never ending stories ...
                                      ( i've even seen people reporting "issues solved" by cleaning out their PCs, because of overheating - thermal throttleing - reason dust 😉

                                      (not F28 related)

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                                      sparrows69
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                                      @jetnoise So it´s ok for you. Your thinghs work, wonderful. The people here with the problem need some help. Your posts doesn´t. Why do not go flying.

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                                        @jetnoise So it´s ok for you. Your thinghs work, wonderful. The people here with the problem need some help. Your posts doesn´t. Why do not go flying.

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                                        JetNoise
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                                        @sparrows69 I am not starting an argue here. I gave enough tipps what to look for.
                                        If your only way is to blame something/someone else (the aircraft/ me), have fun.

                                        File a ticket with JustFlight !

                                        Believe it or not, i am flying this wonderful aircraft, EVERY day ...

                                        CU

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                                          @woolies, how long are your flights? Try to fly longer than an hour and a half.

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                                          @exp131 Been on some multi leg trips lasting well over 3 hrs as well as some long single legs.

                                          https://www.twitch.tv/woolies

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