Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
Collapse
Just Flight Community Forum
  1. Home
  2. Just Flight
  3. MSFS Products
  4. PA-28R Turbo Arrow III/IV
  5. Update for the best GA in the works?

Update for the best GA in the works?

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved PA-28R Turbo Arrow III/IV
52 Posts 22 Posters 11.7k Views 6 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • J Offline
    J Offline
    jstnj
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    Excited for any news... πŸ˜ƒ

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
    • MartynM Martyn

      @superkaro2014 Apologies, I missed your first post.

      Yes, all of our PA28s will be receiving an update in the next week or two. That will include some flight model tweaks, compatibility with the latest versions of the Working Title GNS, PMS-50 GTN and TDS GTNXi, and other general fixes for any issues reported since the last round of updates.

      D Offline
      D Offline
      Dustin
      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      @martyn Please update us. We love our Arrows.

      1 Reply Last reply
      2
      • MartynM Offline
        MartynM Offline
        Martyn
        JF Staff
        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        Hi all. Apologies for the lack of update, we've had a few attempts at release for these PA28 updates but have been frustrated by ongoing compatibility issues with the latest WT GNS, which became much more widely used following AAU1. We are now working directly with the WT team to track down and fix the issue, and we'll then be able to release the Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II updates.

        The latest versions of the PMS-50 GTN and TDS GTNXi are supported now, and we've added the EFB functionality from our 146 (Navigraph/SimBrief support, moving map etc).

        Martyn - Development Manager

        G 1 Reply Last reply
        6
        • MartynM Martyn

          Hi all. Apologies for the lack of update, we've had a few attempts at release for these PA28 updates but have been frustrated by ongoing compatibility issues with the latest WT GNS, which became much more widely used following AAU1. We are now working directly with the WT team to track down and fix the issue, and we'll then be able to release the Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II updates.

          The latest versions of the PMS-50 GTN and TDS GTNXi are supported now, and we've added the EFB functionality from our 146 (Navigraph/SimBrief support, moving map etc).

          G Offline
          G Offline
          Gabe777
          wrote on last edited by Gabe777
          #19

          @martyn

          May I make a request ?

          I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

          I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

          However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

          Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

          This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

          Thanks.

          E N C 3 Replies Last reply
          0
          • G Gabe777

            @martyn

            May I make a request ?

            I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

            I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

            However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

            Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

            This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

            Thanks.

            E Offline
            E Offline
            Europa27
            wrote on last edited by
            #20

            @gabe777 It would be really neat to implement something like WB-Sim has with its 172 and it's tuneable trim tab. Something to add to the suggestion box!

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • S Offline
              S Offline
              SuperKaro2014
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              Thanks Martyn for the update... will try and remain patient πŸ˜€

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • G Gabe777

                @martyn

                May I make a request ?

                I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

                I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

                However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

                Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

                This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

                Thanks.

                N Offline
                N Offline
                NickD27
                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                @gabe777 Sounds like the kind of thing that happens when you have more weight on the left than the right (pilot but no passenger for example). Have you tried just adding a passenger or putting more fuel in the right tank to compensate?

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • G Gabe777

                  @martyn

                  May I make a request ?

                  I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

                  I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

                  However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

                  Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

                  This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

                  Thanks.

                  C Offline
                  C Offline
                  CGNoorloos
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #23

                  @gabe777 until that is possible, you can adjust this with passengers and then do smaller adjustments by selecting which fueltank to draw fuel from.
                  I flew the Arrows by hand on a world trip with an X55 hotas and that worked well

                  G 1 Reply Last reply
                  1
                  • C CGNoorloos

                    @gabe777 until that is possible, you can adjust this with passengers and then do smaller adjustments by selecting which fueltank to draw fuel from.
                    I flew the Arrows by hand on a world trip with an X55 hotas and that worked well

                    G Offline
                    G Offline
                    Gabe777
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

                    @cgnoorloos

                    Good idea.

                    But what's it like in real life I wonder ?

                    C 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • G Gabe777

                      @cgnoorloos

                      Good idea.

                      But what's it like in real life I wonder ?

                      C Offline
                      C Offline
                      CGNoorloos
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #25

                      @gabe777 Same, you'd have to hold it or try some slight rudder trim

                      G 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • C CGNoorloos

                        @gabe777 Same, you'd have to hold it or try some slight rudder trim

                        G Offline
                        G Offline
                        Gabe777
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #26

                        @cgnoorloos

                        Agreed. When I put it on autopilot.... perfectly balanced weight wise, I can literally see the yoke a few degrees to the right.

                        We need an aileron trim.

                        Tried standard keystrokes but it's no go.

                        C T 2 Replies Last reply
                        0
                        • MartynM Offline
                          MartynM Offline
                          Martyn
                          JF Staff
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #27

                          With the help of the Working Title team we have finally found a solution to the GNS compatibility issues that were holding up the release of our updates for the PA28s (Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II). We're now finishing off some final bits of work on those with the aim of releasing them next week.

                          Thanks again for your patience with these updates.

                          Martyn - Just Flight

                          Martyn - Development Manager

                          R 1 Reply Last reply
                          5
                          • G Gabe777

                            @cgnoorloos

                            Agreed. When I put it on autopilot.... perfectly balanced weight wise, I can literally see the yoke a few degrees to the right.

                            We need an aileron trim.

                            Tried standard keystrokes but it's no go.

                            C Offline
                            C Offline
                            CGNoorloos
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #28

                            @gabe777 Tbh i have never felt the need for a aileron trim in the Arrow. Just make sure your passengers and cargo are well distributed and if you fly solo just burn the left tank the first few minutes, won't take long before it flies straight. Just remember to swap over when the other wing starts to drop.

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            4
                            • MartynM Martyn

                              With the help of the Working Title team we have finally found a solution to the GNS compatibility issues that were holding up the release of our updates for the PA28s (Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II). We're now finishing off some final bits of work on those with the aim of releasing them next week.

                              Thanks again for your patience with these updates.

                              Martyn - Just Flight

                              R Offline
                              R Offline
                              RoosTa
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #29

                              @martyn said in Update for the best GA in the works?:

                              With the help of the Working Title team we have finally found a solution to the GNS compatibility issues that were holding up the release of our updates for the PA28s (Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II). We're now finishing off some final bits of work on those with the aim of releasing them next week.

                              Thanks again for your patience with these updates.

                              Martyn - Just Flight

                              Thank you for the Good news. I really miss flying the Warrior and there have been no substitute.

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              2
                              • P Offline
                                P Offline
                                piperdriver0624
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #30

                                @Justflight Team:

                                Are you also planning on updating the turbo behavior? In the current version one still has to lean the engine when climbing and keeping the manifold pressure constant. That’s not correct behavior. Any plans on updating this?

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • A Offline
                                  A Offline
                                  andymp425
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #31

                                  so when is it out?

                                  1 Reply Last reply
                                  3
                                  • MartynM Offline
                                    MartynM Offline
                                    Martyn
                                    JF Staff
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #32

                                    Aiming for this week.

                                    I've just posted the current change log here: https://community.justflight.com/topic/2257/update-change-logs-v0-5-5-released-edited-30-6-22

                                    Martyn - Development Manager

                                    P 1 Reply Last reply
                                    9
                                    • MartynM Offline
                                      MartynM Offline
                                      Martyn
                                      JF Staff
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #33

                                      A quick message to say that we'll be finishing off release candidate testing over the weekend, ahead of a release of the PA28 Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II updates next week.

                                      The updates will also be sent to the MS Marketplace team for processing, both for PC and Xbox.

                                      Martyn - Just Flight

                                      Martyn - Development Manager

                                      D 1 Reply Last reply
                                      6
                                      • G Gabe777

                                        @cgnoorloos

                                        Agreed. When I put it on autopilot.... perfectly balanced weight wise, I can literally see the yoke a few degrees to the right.

                                        We need an aileron trim.

                                        Tried standard keystrokes but it's no go.

                                        T Offline
                                        T Offline
                                        thtanner
                                        wrote on last edited by thtanner
                                        #34

                                        @gabe777 Just use a tad of rudder trim, it will compensate for this. It's what I do in the real plane.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • MartynM Martyn

                                          Aiming for this week.

                                          I've just posted the current change log here: https://community.justflight.com/topic/2257/update-change-logs-v0-5-5-released-edited-30-6-22

                                          P Offline
                                          P Offline
                                          piperdriver0624
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #35

                                          @martyn said in Update for the best GA in the works?:

                                          Aiming for this week.

                                          I've just posted the current change log here: https://community.justflight.com/topic/2257/update-change-logs-v0-5-5-released-edited-30-6-22

                                          So no improvement on the turbo behavior?

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Don't have an account? Register

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users