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Update for the best GA in the works?

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  • E Europa27

    Perhaps they are waiting to see what SU12 changes/breaks/fixes. I think we should see SU12 beta this week hopefully!

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    @europa27 said in Update for the best GA in the works?:

    Perhaps they are waiting to see what SU12 changes/breaks/fixes. I think we should see SU12 beta this week hopefully!

    They might have, and there is certainly work to be done according to my experience with the SU12 beta:
    When the Warrior is installed with other JF aircraft like the Arrows it leads to a CTD when loading the sim. On its own however it loads fine.
    Off course whether this is up to Asobo to fix I don't know, but the Warrior and a few other aircraft are due for some maintenance anyway.

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      @europa27 said in Update for the best GA in the works?:

      Perhaps they are waiting to see what SU12 changes/breaks/fixes. I think we should see SU12 beta this week hopefully!

      They might have, and there is certainly work to be done according to my experience with the SU12 beta:
      When the Warrior is installed with other JF aircraft like the Arrows it leads to a CTD when loading the sim. On its own however it loads fine.
      Off course whether this is up to Asobo to fix I don't know, but the Warrior and a few other aircraft are due for some maintenance anyway.

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      @allard That's weird, I have all three installed and SU12 beta launches fine for me, though I am using the (yet unreleased) flight model update on all three. Perhaps its that.

      Here's hoping it won't be too much longer before they release the official PA28 updates!

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        @allard That's weird, I have all three installed and SU12 beta launches fine for me, though I am using the (yet unreleased) flight model update on all three. Perhaps its that.

        Here's hoping it won't be too much longer before they release the official PA28 updates!

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        @europa27 Great to hear about the new flight models. Hopefully the CTD are also fixed but it might be something Asobo needs to address. Several Carenado aircraft cause a CTD on launch as well.
        In the beta Asobo did try to have MSFS start quicker so it could be related with how addons are loaded into the sim. Since most aircraft with issues are GA I would guess something with the avionics which they have in common. Anyway, hopefull Asobo will sort it out before release .

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          Excited for any news... πŸ˜ƒ

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          • MartynM Martyn

            @superkaro2014 Apologies, I missed your first post.

            Yes, all of our PA28s will be receiving an update in the next week or two. That will include some flight model tweaks, compatibility with the latest versions of the Working Title GNS, PMS-50 GTN and TDS GTNXi, and other general fixes for any issues reported since the last round of updates.

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            @martyn Please update us. We love our Arrows.

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              Hi all. Apologies for the lack of update, we've had a few attempts at release for these PA28 updates but have been frustrated by ongoing compatibility issues with the latest WT GNS, which became much more widely used following AAU1. We are now working directly with the WT team to track down and fix the issue, and we'll then be able to release the Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II updates.

              The latest versions of the PMS-50 GTN and TDS GTNXi are supported now, and we've added the EFB functionality from our 146 (Navigraph/SimBrief support, moving map etc).

              Martyn - Development Manager

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              • MartynM Martyn

                Hi all. Apologies for the lack of update, we've had a few attempts at release for these PA28 updates but have been frustrated by ongoing compatibility issues with the latest WT GNS, which became much more widely used following AAU1. We are now working directly with the WT team to track down and fix the issue, and we'll then be able to release the Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II updates.

                The latest versions of the PMS-50 GTN and TDS GTNXi are supported now, and we've added the EFB functionality from our 146 (Navigraph/SimBrief support, moving map etc).

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                @martyn

                May I make a request ?

                I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

                I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

                However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

                Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

                This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

                Thanks.

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                  @martyn

                  May I make a request ?

                  I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

                  I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

                  However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

                  Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

                  This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

                  Thanks.

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                  Europa27
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                  @gabe777 It would be really neat to implement something like WB-Sim has with its 172 and it's tuneable trim tab. Something to add to the suggestion box!

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                    Thanks Martyn for the update... will try and remain patient πŸ˜€

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                      @martyn

                      May I make a request ?

                      I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

                      I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

                      However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

                      Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

                      This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

                      Thanks.

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                      NickD27
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                      @gabe777 Sounds like the kind of thing that happens when you have more weight on the left than the right (pilot but no passenger for example). Have you tried just adding a passenger or putting more fuel in the right tank to compensate?

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                        @martyn

                        May I make a request ?

                        I find the Arrow very 'left turny' .... for want of a better expression.

                        I notice the autopilot applies a little right aileron to keep it straight... excellent touch ! Very realistic.

                        However... I am VERY lazy... OR I often use a HOTAS, so it becomes tiring... and I'm very old and frail.

                        Would it be possible... as you did with the "fake" 'altitude hold' ... activate an Aileron trim capability in the aircraft.cfg file.

                        This would allow users 'who wish to' ... to use the basic Aileron trim controls to keep it straight without relying on the AP.

                        Thanks.

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                        CGNoorloos
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                        @gabe777 until that is possible, you can adjust this with passengers and then do smaller adjustments by selecting which fueltank to draw fuel from.
                        I flew the Arrows by hand on a world trip with an X55 hotas and that worked well

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                          @gabe777 until that is possible, you can adjust this with passengers and then do smaller adjustments by selecting which fueltank to draw fuel from.
                          I flew the Arrows by hand on a world trip with an X55 hotas and that worked well

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                          Gabe777
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                          @cgnoorloos

                          Good idea.

                          But what's it like in real life I wonder ?

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                            @cgnoorloos

                            Good idea.

                            But what's it like in real life I wonder ?

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                            CGNoorloos
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                            @gabe777 Same, you'd have to hold it or try some slight rudder trim

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                              @gabe777 Same, you'd have to hold it or try some slight rudder trim

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                              @cgnoorloos

                              Agreed. When I put it on autopilot.... perfectly balanced weight wise, I can literally see the yoke a few degrees to the right.

                              We need an aileron trim.

                              Tried standard keystrokes but it's no go.

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                                With the help of the Working Title team we have finally found a solution to the GNS compatibility issues that were holding up the release of our updates for the PA28s (Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II). We're now finishing off some final bits of work on those with the aim of releasing them next week.

                                Thanks again for your patience with these updates.

                                Martyn - Just Flight

                                Martyn - Development Manager

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                                  @cgnoorloos

                                  Agreed. When I put it on autopilot.... perfectly balanced weight wise, I can literally see the yoke a few degrees to the right.

                                  We need an aileron trim.

                                  Tried standard keystrokes but it's no go.

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                                  CGNoorloos
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                                  @gabe777 Tbh i have never felt the need for a aileron trim in the Arrow. Just make sure your passengers and cargo are well distributed and if you fly solo just burn the left tank the first few minutes, won't take long before it flies straight. Just remember to swap over when the other wing starts to drop.

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                                  • MartynM Martyn

                                    With the help of the Working Title team we have finally found a solution to the GNS compatibility issues that were holding up the release of our updates for the PA28s (Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II). We're now finishing off some final bits of work on those with the aim of releasing them next week.

                                    Thanks again for your patience with these updates.

                                    Martyn - Just Flight

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                                    @martyn said in Update for the best GA in the works?:

                                    With the help of the Working Title team we have finally found a solution to the GNS compatibility issues that were holding up the release of our updates for the PA28s (Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II). We're now finishing off some final bits of work on those with the aim of releasing them next week.

                                    Thanks again for your patience with these updates.

                                    Martyn - Just Flight

                                    Thank you for the Good news. I really miss flying the Warrior and there have been no substitute.

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                                      piperdriver0624
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                                      @Justflight Team:

                                      Are you also planning on updating the turbo behavior? In the current version one still has to lean the engine when climbing and keeping the manifold pressure constant. That’s not correct behavior. Any plans on updating this?

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                                        so when is it out?

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                                          Aiming for this week.

                                          I've just posted the current change log here: https://community.justflight.com/topic/2257/update-change-logs-v0-5-5-released-edited-30-6-22

                                          Martyn - Development Manager

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