PA-28R Turbo Arrow III/IV

@Mark Thanks for your explanation, I did expect the problem somewhere outside of your plane.
However it doesn't bother me, it's the second plane I bought from your after the F28 and I really love both, great work.

We are currently focused on converting all of MSFS 2020 products into MSFS 2024 native packages and predominantly bringing them across in an "as is" state. Therefore, MSFS 2024 specific features, such as career mode, aren't supported with our product's initial MSFS 2024 updates.

The status of our MSFS 2024 product updates can be found at the following link: https://www.justflight.com/articles/just-flight-addons-msfs-2024-compatibility-status

We haven't yet investigated career mode compatibility in any of our products, so we wouldn't be able to confidently answer if/when a certain product will receive that compatibility, or what that update/upgrade would look like. However, there is no facility that allows us to transfer products between different stores.

Mark - Just Flight

Thanks for the explanation Mark. Please don't update the F28 too soon then lol ;)

@davenicoll I would recommend following the steps outlined in my reply here to see if that gets you up and running: https://community.justflight.com/post/36544

If the issue persists, could I kindly ask you to contact Just Flight Support via the following link, and our support team will be able to assist with further troubleshooting: https://www.justflight.com/support

Mark - Just Flight

Hi all,

I've just checked this in the simulator, and all lights are displaying as expected on my side. I have uploaded a couple of screenshots to the following link showing the Turbo Arrow III from the PA-28R Arrow III and PA-28R Turbo Arrow III/IV Bundle in MSFS 2024: https://justflight.sharefile.com/public/share/web-s1b9d743f5b374f6f97ff6ceeafecedd5

With regards to aircraft lights not being visible during the day, this is sadly a limitation of how MSFS 2024 handles aircraft lighting. The lighting in all of our MSFS 2024 aircraft has been fine-tuned to have a realistic brightness level at night, which does mean that certain lights can look dim or not lit during the day. If we were to increase the brightness of the lights to make them visible during the day, then that would have the side effect of making the lights extremely bright at night. We remain hopeful that this may be something that will be improved in future MSFS Sim Updates.

If no lighting is visible at night, I would recommend performing an uninstall/reinstall of the affected product.

If the issue persists with a fresh install of the product, I would recommend testing this with only the PA28(s) in your Community folder and seeing if the lighting then works at night. You can rename your existing Community folder to something like "Community.old", then create a new community folder named "Community" and install the PA28(s) into it. That will allow you to revert back to the previous Community folder without having to uninstall/reinstall everything.

If the issue then persists after the above suggestions, we would kindly ask you to raise a ticket with Just Flight Support, and a support team will be able to assist with further troubleshooting: https://www.justflight.com/support

Mark - Just Flight

Thanks for the feedback. We have logged the flaps indication on the HUD on our internal bugs tracker to investigate further ahead of a future update to our PA28s.

With regards to aircraft lights not being visible during the day, this is sadly a limitation of how MSFS 2024 handles aircraft lighting. The lighting in all of our MSFS 2024 aircraft has been fine-tuned to have a realistic brightness level at night, which does mean that certain lights can look dim or not lit during the day. If we were to increase the brightness of the lights to make them visible during the day, then that would have the side effect of making the lights extremely bright at night.

We remain hopeful that this may be something that will be improved in future MSFS Sim Updates.

Mark - Just Flight

Thanks for confirming. We had another user reporting similar behaviour with the Warrior in SU3 Beta so we'll pass on the info.

Hopefully, this is just part of the standard Beta process and will be fixed ahead of the full public release.

Mark - Just Flight

This is not behaviour we are able to replicate on our side, so we would recommend double-checking that the controller sensitivities are set as per our recommended settings here: https://support.justflight.com/en/support/solutions/articles/17000116865-optimal-controller-sensitivity-settings

We would also recommend that the MSFS flight model option is set to 'Modern'.

If the behaviour persists with the above settings, we kindly ask you to raise a ticket with Just Flight support, and one of our support team will be able to assist with troubleshooting: https://www.justflight.com/support

Mark - Just Flight

Thanks for reporting this, and apologies for the delay in getting back to you. I've been in touch with our flight model developer, and it appears that the core behaviour here is a long-standing bug in the simulator's flight model dating back to pre-MSFS days. It's as if the sim links the bubble in the gauge to bank rather than yaw. If you were to look outside of the aircraft at the time of this behaviour occurring, then the aircraft would likely not be slipping, and no rudder input would be required. It's just the indication that would be incorrect.

There are methods in the flight model that can "fix" this, but it is possible that some of the recent improvements to other areas of the flight model have reintroduced this behaviour a little bit.

The flight model is all a bit of a balancing act, making sure one improvement doesn't negatively impact something else, but we have logged this on our internal trackers as something to investigate again in a future update.

Mark - Just Flight

Aaaah - wonderfull news. This make life much more easier.
Thank You!

Ticket submitted !

@flyingpaul1980 The flickering map is a known issue with MSFS 2024, and we are actively investigating a workaround. Based on our recent findings, we are hopeful that we will be able to provide a fix for that in a future update to our PA-28s.

To fix blurry cockpit textures would recommend going to MSFS > Settings > General > Graphics and setting "Texture Resolution" as high as your PC will allow.

The screenshots taken on the product page show the intended quality of the textures in MSFS 2024: https://www.justflight.com/product/pa-28r-turbo-arrow-iii-iv-microsoft-flight-simulator

Mark - Just Flight

Thanks for the feedback. We'll post a reply to each of your points below:

The flaps in the PA28s are purely mechanical, so there is nothing to prevent them from moving in a cold and dark state.

The autopilot behaviour is largely dictated by the GPS unit fitted. With the "GPS 100" fitted, there are no external GPS units fitted, and the autopilot behaves as per our code. With an external GPS unit fitted (WT GNS 430/530, PMS50 GTN750, TDS GTNXi), these GPSs feature their own custom autopilot code, so slightly different autopilot behaviour is expected.

Thanks for the feedback. We'll log this on our internal feature request tracker as something to consider for a future update.

Yes, the KX170B is set up to reflect the real-world configuration where it doesn't support 8.33 kHz spacing. We do have a feature request logged for this to see if we can add support for it within the current model, but we aren't able to guarantee if anything will be possible with that. In the meantime, 8.33 kHz spacing is supported on the other GPS units.

Mark - Just Flight

Looking through the code, the way the HSI has been set up in a way that it shouldn't exhibit any drift, but that's not to say there hasn't been something changed in a recent sim update, or perhaps a GPS may be interfering with the code.

Could you please let us know which simulator you were using when you observed this behaviour, and what (if any) GPS was selected?

Mark - Just Flight

As with all of our initial MSFS 2024 product updates, we are primarily focusing on bringing these products across to the new simulator "as is", although with additional bug fixes and improvements where possible. The initial releases of our MSFS 2024 native products won't include MSFS 2024-specific features such as the natively supported workaround mode and external clickspots, but they do lay the foundations that will allow us to add such features in the future.

Mark - Just Flight