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@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Just landed at EGLC and it’s nice to see such an array of liveries there. Also nice to have correct sized aircraft at the gates whose tails do not block the taxiway, as I had with Simple Traffic. Flight timings appear to be correct too.
However, one odd thing. I’m not seeing any BA liveries at EGLC. I’m comparing a flight that is departing in game now with FlightRadar, and sure enough JF Traffic is showing that flight as departing. But, according to the FlightRadar, it should be a British Airways flight, yet I see no BA planes here. The in-game ATC is calling the correct real life flight number, but rather than calling it Speed Bird, it’s being called Flyer. I’m sure I’ve heard of British Airways Flyer before, so I’m guessing it’s what BA call their domestic flights. However, the aircraft in the game is not liveried in BA, instead it’s in that awful default orange and white paint job with no airline markings.
Does JF Traffic not have BA Flyer livery in its files?
I moved to EGLL and there are BA liveries there, with the Speed Bird call sign. So I’m assuming there’s either no BA Flyer livery, or an issue with it.
Good fps at EGLL (third-party dlc) at 40 fps average. However, I’ve only just spawned in so it may decline as more aircraft populate.
I am getting a lot of that awful default liveried aircraft at EGLL. I understand this means that JF Traffic does not have a livery for whatever airline it is. No big deal as I am aware I can go into settings and select No substitutions, or something like that.
But so far, I am very happy with JF Traffic. I just need to go make some slight setting tweaks.
If you submit a ticket with a screenshot and flight details of the BA one someone can check it. I hesitate to mention code sharing, but that might be an issue as per previous incarnations.
Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
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Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
The phonetic spelling thing is a bug. The MSFS Live Traffic is the default.
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@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
The phonetic spelling thing is a bug. The MSFS Live Traffic is the default.
@derek said in No Traffic:
@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
The phonetic spelling thing is a bug. The MSFS Live Traffic is the default.
Thank you.
Just a quick question. If I’m just interested in JF Traffic aircraft being generated, what should I set MSFS Live Traffic to?
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@derek said in No Traffic:
@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
The phonetic spelling thing is a bug. The MSFS Live Traffic is the default.
Thank you.
Just a quick question. If I’m just interested in JF Traffic aircraft being generated, what should I set MSFS Live Traffic to?
@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
@derek said in No Traffic:
@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
The phonetic spelling thing is a bug. The MSFS Live Traffic is the default.
Thank you.
Just a quick question. If I’m just interested in JF Traffic aircraft being generated, what should I set MSFS Live Traffic to?
Off.
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@derek said in No Traffic:
@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Further. When I went into my game settings I noticed I did not have Aircraft Traffic Type set to OFF, as recommended in your manual. I rectified that.
I also set No substitutions.
I also set MSFS Live Traffic to OFF. It was ON. I admit, I’m not sure exactly what that is relating to. Is it Live AI?
Once I’d done that I went back into EGLC and there were lots of BA planes there. However, rather than saying Speed Bird the ATC controller is spelling the call sign phonetically (Sierra Papa Echo … etc).
Jumped over to EGLL and all callsigns of all airlines is being said phonetically. I’m not sure if it’s anything I’ve done in the settings.
The phonetic spelling thing is a bug. The MSFS Live Traffic is the default.
Thank you.
Just a quick question. If I’m just interested in JF Traffic aircraft being generated, what should I set MSFS Live Traffic to?
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@bpfonteyn
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Thank you. The phonetic spelling of the callsigns. Is that a bug in FS or JF Traffic?
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@bpfonteyn said in No Traffic:
Thank you. The phonetic spelling of the callsigns. Is that a bug in FS or JF Traffic? I think it is FST. Looking into it.
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@kcappa said in No Traffic:
@bpfonteyn when arriving at destination airport there is no traffic at all. Completely empty. So its basically useless.
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@777dave said in No Traffic:
@derek I disabled GSX and tweaked the settings in GSX as suggested by support and it did not work. Also, nowhere in the description, presentation, or disclosure of this product did it state that there would be a conflict with GSX anyways. Had it stated this, I wouldn't have even gone down this rabbit hole to begin with.
I know you are just the messenger, but what is being done here by JustFlight is not right.
Conflicts with AI traffic and GSX are not new - there have been issues with FSTL IIRC - we did cover this in an FAQ about invisible aircraft and made a tool to facilitate it. That aside, it looks like support replied and also got it working for you, albeit with limitations that you are unhappy with. I am sorry you are so unhappy, but the complexity of AI traffic programs invariably means some compromises are required on the way. If you PM me I will endeavour to get you out of your rabbit hole clutching the money you paid.
@derek said in No Traffic:
Conflicts with AI traffic and GSX are not new - there have been issues with FSTL IIRC - we did cover this in an FAQ about invisible aircraft and made a tool to facilitate it.
I do not have these issues with FSLTL. I have always used GSX with no tweaks. I've tried No Ground, No Jetways, Removed GSX, Started with GSX , but no Couatl. Sometimes it works at the origin, but not the destination. It just doesn't work right for many users. Very few streamers use it since release.
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@derek said in No Traffic:
Conflicts with AI traffic and GSX are not new - there have been issues with FSTL IIRC - we did cover this in an FAQ about invisible aircraft and made a tool to facilitate it.
I do not have these issues with FSLTL. I have always used GSX with no tweaks. I've tried No Ground, No Jetways, Removed GSX, Started with GSX , but no Couatl. Sometimes it works at the origin, but not the destination. It just doesn't work right for many users. Very few streamers use it since release.
@mookie2661 said in No Traffic:
@derek said in No Traffic:
Conflicts with AI traffic and GSX are not new - there have been issues with FSTL IIRC - we did cover this in an FAQ about invisible aircraft and made a tool to facilitate it.
I do not have these issues with FSLTL. I have always used GSX with no tweaks. I've tried No Ground, No Jetways, Removed GSX, Started with GSX , but no Couatl. Sometimes it works at the origin, but not the destination. It just doesn't work right for many users. Very few streamers use it since release.
Some users (not all - same as with FS Traffic) have experienced issues with other traffic programs and maximum objects. I posted up some links to the discussions online but I won't do that again as it caused some upset. Maximum objects can also be affected by the airport. However, it might be that some other issue is causing you these intermittent problems. If you are able to replicate the same problem on the same flight every time it may be possible to get to the bottom of it. We have an update due out shortly and if that doesn't resolve it, let Support know and we can look into it.
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@mookie2661 said in No Traffic:
@derek said in No Traffic:
Conflicts with AI traffic and GSX are not new - there have been issues with FSTL IIRC - we did cover this in an FAQ about invisible aircraft and made a tool to facilitate it.
I do not have these issues with FSLTL. I have always used GSX with no tweaks. I've tried No Ground, No Jetways, Removed GSX, Started with GSX , but no Couatl. Sometimes it works at the origin, but not the destination. It just doesn't work right for many users. Very few streamers use it since release.
Some users (not all - same as with FS Traffic) have experienced issues with other traffic programs and maximum objects. I posted up some links to the discussions online but I won't do that again as it caused some upset. Maximum objects can also be affected by the airport. However, it might be that some other issue is causing you these intermittent problems. If you are able to replicate the same problem on the same flight every time it may be possible to get to the bottom of it. We have an update due out shortly and if that doesn't resolve it, let Support know and we can look into it.
@derek Thanks. I will wait until the update since I can't repeat it at the same airport. If problems persist, I will submit a ticket.
Edit: I have unlinked GSX from my community folder again and FST worked when I loaded into Payware KMEM and EGLL. also spawned aircraft at default KBNA. Don't have time for a full flight but will report back if there are more snags.
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@derek Thanks. I will wait until the update since I can't repeat it at the same airport. If problems persist, I will submit a ticket.
Edit: I have unlinked GSX from my community folder again and FST worked when I loaded into Payware KMEM and EGLL. also spawned aircraft at default KBNA. Don't have time for a full flight but will report back if there are more snags.
@mookie2661 said in No Traffic:
@derek Thanks. I will wait until the update since I can't repeat it at the same airport. If problems persist, I will submit a ticket.
Edit: I have unlinked GSX from my community folder again and FST worked when I loaded into Payware KMEM and EGLL. also spawned aircraft at default KBNA. Don't have time for a full flight but will report back if there are more snags.
Have you used the FST tool to reduce clutter? With that you shouldn't have to remove GSX or different airport scenery.
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@derek Thanks. I will wait until the update since I can't repeat it at the same airport. If problems persist, I will submit a ticket.
Edit: I have unlinked GSX from my community folder again and FST worked when I loaded into Payware KMEM and EGLL. also spawned aircraft at default KBNA. Don't have time for a full flight but will report back if there are more snags.
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@mookie2661 said in No Traffic:
@derek Thanks. I will wait until the update since I can't repeat it at the same airport. If problems persist, I will submit a ticket.
Edit: I have unlinked GSX from my community folder again and FST worked when I loaded into Payware KMEM and EGLL. also spawned aircraft at default KBNA. Don't have time for a full flight but will report back if there are more snags.
Have you used the FST tool to reduce clutter? With that you shouldn't have to remove GSX or different airport scenery.
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@derek Yes. I have reduced is as low as it can go.
@mookie2661 said in No Traffic:
@derek Yes. I have reduced is as low as it can go.
OK - see John's post above - the update should make a difference.
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@mookie2661 The update is out now. Destination traffic should now be much more consistent. The maximum object issue still exists but we've made a few changes to help.
John - Just Flight
@jf-john Thanks, John. Won't be able to test for another 13 hours, but will surely report back.
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@mookie2661 said in No Traffic:
@derek Yes. I have reduced is as low as it can go.
OK - see John's post above - the update should make a difference.
@derek Didn't work for me. No destination traffic at all. The original installer worked! This one just broke it. I have submitted a ticket, but this is just getting frustrating
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Just starting a flight EGNS-EGLL.
No aircraft at EGNS as it stands. I have traffic spawn timing set to 120 minutes.
According to FlightRadar there is an EasyJet A320 due to depart at 1215, and a Loganair AT76 due to depart at 1225. I would have expected to see these aircraft in game. I’ve been loaded in for about 10-15 minutes so far. It’s currently 1050z as I type this.
Another aircraft is due to depart at 1300, so I’m going to hang about here until after 1100 to see if it spawns in.
There are no arrivals due until 1145, so I’m not expecting to see any landings.
My destination is EGLL, which has been set in the JF toolbar icon window.
Note: I do acknowledge that the JF timetables were correct as of summer 2022, so it’s possible there has been winter changes to the real life schedules.
I’m probably going to try a flight later using MSFS Live Traffic, disabling JFT timetables (but allowing JFT to populate the game with its aircraft models).
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Just starting a flight EGNS-EGLL.
No aircraft at EGNS as it stands. I have traffic spawn timing set to 120 minutes.
According to FlightRadar there is an EasyJet A320 due to depart at 1215, and a Loganair AT76 due to depart at 1225. I would have expected to see these aircraft in game. I’ve been loaded in for about 10-15 minutes so far. It’s currently 1050z as I type this.
Another aircraft is due to depart at 1300, so I’m going to hang about here until after 1100 to see if it spawns in.
There are no arrivals due until 1145, so I’m not expecting to see any landings.
My destination is EGLL, which has been set in the JF toolbar icon window.
Note: I do acknowledge that the JF timetables were correct as of summer 2022, so it’s possible there has been winter changes to the real life schedules.
I’m probably going to try a flight later using MSFS Live Traffic, disabling JFT timetables (but allowing JFT to populate the game with its aircraft models).
I’m still at EGNS and no aircraft have spawned in. Whilst the game is still running in the background I have opened JF Traffic Control Centre to look at EGNS departures for a Saturday.
As suspected the JF timetable is different to real life (hence why FlightRadar does not reflect what is spawning in game). However, as above, I acknowledge timetables change, and JF’s is set as of summer 2022.
Saying that though, the JF timetable tells me I have one flight departing at 1220 for EGLL. It’s currently 1114 both in game and in real life. As my Time Before Departure Value in TCC is set to 120 minutes, I would have expected to see this flight at the gate. Nothing there unfortunately.
The next flight in JF timetable is 1400, so I won’t expect to see that spawn in until 1200, 45 minutes from now. I’m not going to hang around for that, so I’m now going to depart for EGLL. I think it’s an hour flight. Hopefully I’ll see something at EGLL. 🙂
