traffic update, australia
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I"ve had a quick look at the arrivals and departure flight plans for Sydney.
Whist there are plenty of plans, many are using aircraft models where the livery does not exist within TG. Here are a few examples:
Air Nelson instead of ANZ
Qantas 146 - no livery
Sin 388 - no livery
Air Asia x 330-no livery etc etc
There are lots of plans for Volare Airways 737H and 737W . I think these are meant to be Virgin Australian plans, but why they have been swapped for a little know Italian airline is baffling.You can amend each plan quite easily by swapping aircraft i.e. exchange the Volare for the Virgin 737-800 model and so on. If you then test each amended plan it will tell you if the livery doesn't actually exist by stating "could not find parking" Its time consuming but in lock down what else is there to do! You have to recompile the plans before you will see the results of your work.
Any time soon someone from the TG team will come onto this forum and request that you put a ticket in. However they are not going to fix missing flight plans or liveries without issuing another update and that could be months away.
The recent update now has an import aircraft option which means in theory that its possible to add aircraft and liveries from your aircraft library and from 3rd party AI providers like JCAI.DK etc. This is just what we need to create up to date traffic with lots of variety. The problem is that I cannot get it to work! -ticket has been submitted.
If you explore the Traffic Global Flight Plans section you will see that many plans have been created but using aircraft and liveries that don't exist. There is a for example, a CNC, an S20, a 77W a C27 and so on. The program just needs a bit more effort to finish off, but it feels like its been abandoned. So come on TG team fill in the gaps so there is an aircraft model and livery for every flight plan you have created. This will greatly reduce the number of complaints and "help" requests you must be receiveing! Do this and you give your customers an unrivalled and superb flight sim traffic program.
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@Lockheed-lad said in traffic update, australia:
Any time soon someone from the TG team will come onto this forum and request that you put a ticket in. However they are not going to fix missing flight plans or liveries without issuing another update and that could be months away.
I've said many times that we can't fix problems we don't know about, so please, please, please, if you have a problem,raise a Support ticket and we can look into it. .
This will greatly reduce the number of complaints and "help" requests you must be receiveing!
Given the volume sold, the support required for TG is non-existent, compared to some of the more complex aircraft we publish. That may well be (according to one poster) down to people buying it and not using it. However, if there are issues, let us know about them and we can investigate. Someone will be dealing with your importing problem, but questions like why Volare is used instead of Virgin is something we can investigate if we know about it.
NB that the way TG works is that it is based on a real-world database supplied from a standard source and IIRC is from around 2019. We don't have an aircraft or livery for every flight in the database because that would be impossible to achieve. There is a 'use substitutes' function to resolve this, but it is clearly not everyone's cup of tea.
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Hi Derek,
I appreciate that it would be extremely challenging for TG to have an AI model and livery for every flight on the database. However there are some examples that have been previously highlighted where TG does have a livery in its data base, but another none existant livery has been substituted. The recent post about MAIT Mongolian appearing on many UK airport flight plans is an example. In this case the plans clearly belong to TUI. For Australia it look like Volare has been substituted for Virgin Australia. As I have pointed out these can be fixed by the user either by substituting for the correct livery or creating their own flight plans.
I agree that such issues should be reported to the "help" team but there is often a delay in receiving a response. Therefore its also sensible to report such issues within the community as somebody out there may have a more immediate solution.
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@Lockheed-lad
Though this is not exactly a solution, it might be worth compiling with 'Use Alternate Liveries' UNchecked (if, of course, you haven't already:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: ).It has always tended to make some very peculiar substitutions for entire airlines.
One such instance resulted in Austrian airbuses turning up in S America.
Compiling without that box activated reverted them all to the correct S American airline.
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@Lockheed-lad said in traffic update, australia:
The recent post about MAIT Mongolian appearing on many UK airport flight plans is an example. In this case the plans clearly belong to TUI.
I've been intrigued by this one for yonks, as it has popped up a few times, but there has never been a ticket raised and the information has always been sketchy. I've recently managed to get as far as discovering that the planes don't actually appear in the game, just in the error logs, which I suppose is some progress towards a solution, but no further, sadly. TUi, (like Virgin Australia, coincidentally), has had some re-branding and holding company changes in recent years, which may be an explanation, but it could be an issue with the database. Or something else.
NB - what is your ticket number regarding the import problems?
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Hi Derek,
Ticket no 54514. Thanks.
Ref TUI: In the early days TUI flights appeared but were subsequently substituted by our Mongolian friends.
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when you say 'appeared' do you mean in the sky? Or in an error log?
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Come to think of it the TUI 757 disappeared off the data base for a while.
I did create my own flights for the TUI 737-800 so that probably indicates that the flight plans had been substituted by our Mongolian MIATS from the release of TG. It was a while ago and the memory fades!
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@Lockheed-lad your right volare planes instead of virgin.
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ok can someone give me some ideas why i have no other aircraft at brisbane australia airport and other ausssie airports
yet if i fly from europe or usa airports theres planes there alsp departures and landings...
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Hi aardvark111,
First thing I would recommend is to submit a ticket to the Just Flight help team via their web site. You will need your TG order number.
Here is an image of one page of flight plans for Brisbane YBBN. I use a separate computer for FS which does not have e-mail so this is a photo of the screen.
Out of 26 plans only 6 would produce traffic. These are:
QF 737H x 4
Air Pacific 737H
China 359
Liveries exist in the data base for this plans, for all the others there are no liveries available. I noticed that the traffic density set for the Qantas 737 flights were 81,78,75.82. These are high. The higher the density the less chance of seeing the flight. Density should be set to under 50 for flights you want to see. Make sure that the traffic setting on your computer is set to 100 but if you end up with too much traffic you can adjust this down.As I said before you can fix missing flights by amending individual flight plans. Test and save each plan then compile TG when you are done. This should produce much more traffic.
In terms of the Australian domestic airline scene the following models and liveries are available to you:
Qantas : 717, 737.8, 747.4, 330.2, 380, Dash 8-3 Dash 8-4, F100, MD80
Virgin Oz : 737.8, 773, ATR 72
Alliance : F70
Australian Air Express: R185
Ansett Air Freight: R 185
Rex: S340Sorry if I have missed some more.
I appreciate that some of these aircraft types are no longer in use but there is a reasonable choice. I could not see any liveries for Jet Star or Tiger. You can ask the help desk if they could add these in the next update!
There are lots of international liveries in the programme. You can check which ones are available via the AI fleet section under "Aircraft Explorer"
You can also add your own flight plans to increase traffic. The product manual gives details on how to do this. I have added over 400.
I hope this helps.
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aardvark 111
There is a Jetstar Japan A320 which has a livery.
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@Lockheed-lad thanks will look at that.
no tiger air anymore, tiger died when virgin australia went into administration last year ,bain capital bought them closed tiger down,sold off 777 atr's only have 737 now.
