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    airvice
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    Hi team

    is there a way of establishing the following

    • remaining Fuel at destination
    • remaining distance to destination
    • arrival time
    • adding range rings
    • top of descent

    i have also noticed that the engine trend gauge fuel figures for destination don't seem to make any sense. ete, eta fuel to destinationsays zero all the time, fuel at destination just drops continuously like a fuel quantity gauge as the fuel burns ,nothing corresponds to the actual current zulu time or flight plan nothing makes sense.
    am i doing something wrong?

    thank you

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      Hello! Let's start with this: What GPS systems are you using? Some of the data on the ETM was not available with all 3rd party GPS sources, but I did my best at the time to fill them all out. I can test this later, but I would expect all of the data you mentioned here to be correctly populated. Also where would you like range rings and TOD to be added exactly?

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        Hello! Let's start with this: What GPS systems are you using? Some of the data on the ETM was not available with all 3rd party GPS sources, but I did my best at the time to fill them all out. I can test this later, but I would expect all of the data you mentioned here to be correctly populated. Also where would you like range rings and TOD to be added exactly?

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        @Black-Square said in tbm 850 options:

        Hello! Let's start with this: What GPS systems are you using? Some of the data on the ETM was not available with all 3rd party GPS sources, but I did my best at the time to fill them all out. I can test this later, but I would expect all of the data you mentioned here to be correctly populated. Also where would you like range rings and TOD to be added exactly?

        I saw the same sort of data missing in 2024 as I did in 2020 with the GNS 530. I assume nothing really changed between sims for those?

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          Hello! Let's start with this: What GPS systems are you using? Some of the data on the ETM was not available with all 3rd party GPS sources, but I did my best at the time to fill them all out. I can test this later, but I would expect all of the data you mentioned here to be correctly populated. Also where would you like range rings and TOD to be added exactly?

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          @Black-Square Im using the pms50 gtn750 paid version

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            @Black-Square any thoughts?

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              @Black-Square regarding range rings and TOD, was thinking somewhere in the garmin gps as it has a screen

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                I'll take a look at the ETM fuel pages on my end momentarily, but they should all be working with the PMS50 GTN, or at least were during development. Do I understand that you're looking for range rings and TOD also on the PMS50 GTN? I think it might already be possible for you to configure range rings, but otherwise you would have to talk to the PMS50 developer about that, as I have nothing to do with his product.

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                  @Black-Square

                  ive double checked and none of these items are even close to accurate on the tbm panel guage.

                  remaining Fuel at destination
                  remaining distance to destination
                  arrival time or any of the other paramaters.
                  gmt
                  local time dont even match

                  basically none of the time or fuel indications are acurate. not even slightly.
                  for example im on a 3 hour flight all correctly loaded in and the eta says my arrival time is in 15 minutes from now etc stuff like this.
                  ive now done about 100 flights since purchased and checked these on every flight and same result. something is definately not right.

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                    I'll take a look at the ETM fuel pages on my end momentarily, but they should all be working with the PMS50 GTN, or at least were during development. Do I understand that you're looking for range rings and TOD also on the PMS50 GTN? I think it might already be possible for you to configure range rings, but otherwise you would have to talk to the PMS50 developer about that, as I have nothing to do with his product.

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                    @Black-Square

                    none of the timings or fuel info is accurate on the 850 panel orange guage, ive done hundreds of flights and checks every flight, nothing is correct. even the local and gmt data doesnt match the sim times.

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                      @Black-Square

                      ive double checked and none of these items are even close to accurate on the tbm panel guage.

                      remaining Fuel at destination
                      remaining distance to destination
                      arrival time or any of the other paramaters.
                      gmt
                      local time dont even match

                      basically none of the time or fuel indications are acurate. not even slightly.
                      for example im on a 3 hour flight all correctly loaded in and the eta says my arrival time is in 15 minutes from now etc stuff like this.
                      ive now done about 100 flights since purchased and checked these on every flight and same result. something is definately not right.

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                      @airvice said in tbm 850 options:

                      gmt

                      Pardon me to focusing on one thing immediately, but perhaps this can point us in the right direction. The GMT is read straight from the simulator's variable with nothing in between. If that's really wrong, then there might be something bigger picture going on.

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                        @airvice said in tbm 850 options:

                        gmt

                        Pardon me to focusing on one thing immediately, but perhaps this can point us in the right direction. The GMT is read straight from the simulator's variable with nothing in between. If that's really wrong, then there might be something bigger picture going on.

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                        @Black-Square ill check this again tonight and feed back

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                          @airvice said in tbm 850 options:

                          gmt

                          Pardon me to focusing on one thing immediately, but perhaps this can point us in the right direction. The GMT is read straight from the simulator's variable with nothing in between. If that's really wrong, then there might be something bigger picture going on.

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                          @Black-Square gmt and local time both about 16 minute fast on todays flight and same yesterday. ete eta all hours out. not one dataset was correct/

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                            Do you think you could have some addon or external software, like a career management plugin that's trying to inject its own time? If the GMT is wrong, then that means something is up at the simulator level, which could be messing up all the other calculations.

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                              Do you think you could have some addon or external software, like a career management plugin that's trying to inject its own time? If the GMT is wrong, then that means something is up at the simulator level, which could be messing up all the other calculations.

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                              @Black-Square batc, fsrealistic, navigraph little nav map and VR virtul desktop. thats it. fs2024

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                                as far as im aware nothing im using (all listed above) does anything with the sim time.

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                                  i fly the pmdg 777 er a lot and the panel clock matches the sim UTC

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                                    @Black-Square are we done here? because i have no idea how to fix this.

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                                      @Black-Square are we done here? because i have no idea how to fix this.

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                                      @airvice Feel free to contact Just Flight Support and see if they have any ideas in their knowledge database. I suspect they will come back to me, though. I'm not sure what to say, because I can't reproduce this, and if the GMT is wrong, then it seems to be an issue at the simulator level, since that variable is read directly. Maybe others have seen this behavior with the GMT in MSFS 2024 before, and might have some ideas?

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                                        @Black-Square i discovered today that the orange guage time matches sim time at the moment i change the sim time, both local and UTC but then soon becomes out of sync on the gauge with the time displayed in the fs settings window. however after some research online and in the sim ive noticed its the fs window time thats not advancing and remains stuck at what ever time i set it . both the time on the guage and on the panel clock/stop watch guage advance and are in sync . this only happens when im using a custom time. if i set live time then it doesnt occur and avarything is synced. there appears to be some evidence of others having the same observation online of the custom sim time issue generally, not aircraft specific from what i can tell. now ive not yet tested the other tbm 850 orange guage data paramaters that were also not accurate yet to see if the same thing happens when i fly in live time.

                                        Unfortunately i never use live time for my flights hance have never seen a comparison. I also dont plan to use live flight time either generally because it simply isnt compatible with 99% of my global vfr flying (for obvious reason such as darkness etc) so this isnt going to be a viable solution. anyway i will test this for the sake of this issue and feed back findings

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                                          Thanks for doing some research! That does not really surprise me. The custom time slider was one of the most confounding UI choices in MSFS 2024 to me. I'm still not really clear on what the concept is. Is it always centered around noon GMT? All I know is that whatever time I want to fly always seems to straddle the two ends of the slider. If you have any forum links you want to share on this subject, I can investigate more and bring it to the developer forum if I can write a solid bug description.

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