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    BAEflyer
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    20 hrs at random high without any
    Come on!!!!
    Talk to us!
    Still my #1 addon...

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      20 hrs at random high without any
      Come on!!!!
      Talk to us!
      Still my #1 addon...

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      Dano197711
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      @baeflyer

      It depends on what rate you have failures set too.

      The failure rates in the 146 are:

      REAL: a failure every 25 hours to 50 hours.
      LOW: a failure every 5 hours to 15 hours.
      MID: a failure every 2 hours to 5 hours
      HIGH: a failure every 30mins to 2 hours

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        @baeflyer

        It depends on what rate you have failures set too.

        The failure rates in the 146 are:

        REAL: a failure every 25 hours to 50 hours.
        LOW: a failure every 5 hours to 15 hours.
        MID: a failure every 2 hours to 5 hours
        HIGH: a failure every 30mins to 2 hours

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        @dano197711 in the meantime i've flown 70 hrs. With random failures at hight and still have Not encountered a single one failure. Now i understand that this might be a statistical Thing, but right now i'm pretty sure (random) failures are simply Not implemented.

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          knidarkness
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          I must agree that to date had no failures on "high" as well. Would be nice to hear if they are there for anyone. And as for the feature: would love either a "trigger failure", or being able to set MTBF.

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            Mark
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            Hi all,

            Just to confirm that the random failures are working as intended on our end (I have just had a COM 2 radio failure with random failures set to HIGH after just over an hour of flight time). At this time we also can't think of any reason why they shouldn't work universally on everyone's systems as we aren't doing anything too trivial to get them to trigger from a coding perspective.

            We do have an FAQ uploaded on our support page with a little more detail on the random failures including the failure rates for each option: https://support.justflight.com/a/solutions/articles/17000134437

            Please see the two notes at the bottom of the FAQ regarding the visibility of the failures. There are a lot of potential systems failures that can be triggered without any form of aural or visual indication in the cockpit, so it can be easy to think there are no failures active whereas there may just not be immediately noticeable.

            A good example of that will be the COM 1 / COM 2 failure I mentioned above. This has no audio or visual alerts so the only way you will know that the radio has failed is when you try and contact ATC, or if you look at what failures are active on the Failures menu of the EFB.

            Whenever a system has failed, a tick will appear in the relevant "FAIL" box on the EFB failures page so that should be your best indicator for whether a system has failed (note there are several pages of failures that can be cycled through with the PREV and NEXT buttons).

            We hope that helps.

            Mark - Just Flight

            Just Flight Development Assistant

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              Hi all,

              Just to confirm that the random failures are working as intended on our end (I have just had a COM 2 radio failure with random failures set to HIGH after just over an hour of flight time). At this time we also can't think of any reason why they shouldn't work universally on everyone's systems as we aren't doing anything too trivial to get them to trigger from a coding perspective.

              We do have an FAQ uploaded on our support page with a little more detail on the random failures including the failure rates for each option: https://support.justflight.com/a/solutions/articles/17000134437

              Please see the two notes at the bottom of the FAQ regarding the visibility of the failures. There are a lot of potential systems failures that can be triggered without any form of aural or visual indication in the cockpit, so it can be easy to think there are no failures active whereas there may just not be immediately noticeable.

              A good example of that will be the COM 1 / COM 2 failure I mentioned above. This has no audio or visual alerts so the only way you will know that the radio has failed is when you try and contact ATC, or if you look at what failures are active on the Failures menu of the EFB.

              Whenever a system has failed, a tick will appear in the relevant "FAIL" box on the EFB failures page so that should be your best indicator for whether a system has failed (note there are several pages of failures that can be cycled through with the PREV and NEXT buttons).

              We hope that helps.

              Mark - Just Flight

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              BAEflyer
              wrote on last edited by BAEflyer
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              Thanks for the Statement, appreciate it. Being aware of this, i do regularely check the failures Page. i can definitely say i havn't Had ANY.

              Regards

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                Thanks for the Statement, appreciate it. Being aware of this, i do regularely check the failures Page. i can definitely say i havn't Had ANY.

                Regards

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                Mark
                JF Staff
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                That definitely doesn't sound right. Based on the logic the failure system is using there should have been at least one failure occurring in that time scale with any of the failure rates selected.

                In that case, we would recommend opening a support ticket so we can investigate this further:

                https://www.justflight.com/support

                Mark - Just Flight

                Just Flight Development Assistant

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                • B BAEflyer

                  Thanks for the Statement, appreciate it. Being aware of this, i do regularely check the failures Page. i can definitely say i havn't Had ANY.

                  Regards

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                  Tsolis
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                  @baeflyer i had first also No random failures but i did some testing and found out how to get random failures and im on Xbox series X.

                  I noticed when you close the efb you wont get any random failures but If you leave the efb the whole flight on and you must be on the failure page, you will get a random failure but only from failure page shown.

                  This is def a bug maybe Developer can fix this.

                  Workaround til its fixed. If you want random failures leave the efb from Copilot side on and you have to be at the failure page to get random failure

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                    @baeflyer i had first also No random failures but i did some testing and found out how to get random failures and im on Xbox series X.

                    I noticed when you close the efb you wont get any random failures but If you leave the efb the whole flight on and you must be on the failure page, you will get a random failure but only from failure page shown.

                    This is def a bug maybe Developer can fix this.

                    Workaround til its fixed. If you want random failures leave the efb from Copilot side on and you have to be at the failure page to get random failure

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                    BAEflyer
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                    @tsolis Thank you very much, this has just been confirmed by their support team!

                    Until further notice the the failures page has to remain active to trigger random failures.

                    regards!

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