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KA350 Condition Levers

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  • M meh1951

    @lemny
    Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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    hangar_101
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    @meh1951 below follows how I setup feather in the KA

    There are two events (axis change event & scripted event)
    829860fe-b716-4067-bbb0-9eb54b150a87-image.png

    The axis change event is a regular one for controlling the propeller axis
    d9cfaa79-b2e5-491d-a6d2-aecd40c42b83-image.png

    The scripted event is the one that controls the feather position
    f41725c6-31be-4a0e-9421-5e52b15688e5-image.png

    Regards

    Anderson

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    • hangar_101H hangar_101

      @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

      In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

      dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

      Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

      axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
      9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
      There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

      axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
      24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
      - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

      axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
      11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
      - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

      These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

      In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

      1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

      Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

      There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

      Regards

      Anderson

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      meh1951
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      #13

      @anderson
      I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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      • M meh1951

        @anderson
        I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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        hangar_101
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        @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
        This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
        The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

        Hangar 101

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        • hangar_101H hangar_101

          @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
          This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
          The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

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          meh1951
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          #15

          @anderson
          Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

          705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

          1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

          Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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          • M meh1951

            @anderson
            Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

            705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

            1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

            Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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            hangar_101
            wrote on last edited by hangar_101
            #16

            @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

            Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

            For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

            Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

            The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

            Regards,

            Anderson

            Hangar 101

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            • hangar_101H hangar_101

              @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

              Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

              For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

              Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

              The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

              Regards,

              Anderson

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              meh1951
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              #17

              @anderson

              Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

              Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

              4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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              • M meh1951

                @anderson

                Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                hangar_101
                wrote on last edited by hangar_101
                #18

                @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                The condition lever setup
                b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                Cut Off setup
                cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                There will be 3 entries for each lever

                0 - 25 Cut Off
                26 - 73 Low Idle
                75 - 100 High Idle

                You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                Regards,

                Anderson

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                • hangar_101H hangar_101

                  @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                  Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                  As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                  LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                  18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                  The condition lever setup
                  b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                  Cut Off setup
                  cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                  If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                  There will be 3 entries for each lever

                  0 - 25 Cut Off
                  26 - 73 Low Idle
                  75 - 100 High Idle

                  You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                  Regards,

                  Anderson

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                  meh1951
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                  #19

                  @anderson

                  Thank you buddy the first screen shot answered a ton of questions for me.

                  I will try this...

                  thanks for your support!

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                  • hangar_101H hangar_101

                    @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                    Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                    As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                    LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                    18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                    The condition lever setup
                    b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                    Cut Off setup
                    cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                    If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                    There will be 3 entries for each lever

                    0 - 25 Cut Off
                    26 - 73 Low Idle
                    75 - 100 High Idle

                    You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                    Regards,

                    Anderson

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                    meh1951
                    wrote on last edited by meh1951
                    #20

                    @anderson

                    Does this look close??

                    b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                    b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                    f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                    fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                    • M meh1951

                      @anderson

                      Does this look close??

                      b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                      b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                      f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                      fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                      meh1951
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                      #21

                      @meh1951
                      No I still have problems.
                      Handle still not moving and Looping

                      Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                      Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                      • M meh1951

                        @meh1951
                        No I still have problems.
                        Handle still not moving and Looping

                        Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                        Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                        hangar_101
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #22

                        @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                        866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                        It should be ON

                        You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                        d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                        by

                        7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                        Regards

                        Anderson

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                        • hangar_101H hangar_101

                          @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                          866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                          It should be ON

                          You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                          d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                          by

                          7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                          Regards

                          Anderson

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                          meh1951
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                          #23

                          @anderson
                          Repeat has been implemented but still the same results

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                          • hangar_101H hangar_101

                            @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                            866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                            It should be ON

                            You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                            d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                            by

                            7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                            Regards

                            Anderson

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                            meh1951
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #24

                            @anderson
                            Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                            ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                            • M meh1951

                              @anderson
                              Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                              ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                              hangar_101
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                              #25

                              @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                              5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                              Your condition is different

                              Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                              Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                              Your condition
                              f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                              The correct condition
                              429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                              There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                              Give it a try as indicated.

                              Anderson

                              Hangar 101

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                              • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                                5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                                Your condition is different

                                Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                                Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                                Your condition
                                f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                                The correct condition
                                429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                                There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                                Give it a try as indicated.

                                Anderson

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                                meh1951
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                                @anderson
                                Are you talking about the
                                While TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER:2 equals ??

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                                • M meh1951

                                  @anderson
                                  Are you talking about the
                                  While TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER:2 equals ??

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                                  hangar_101
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                                  #27

                                  @meh1951 yes, scripted event window should look like this

                                  4826de71-06b1-4448-be27-b83bbefe5bae-image.png

                                  Notice the first condition line just evaluates the lever position.

                                  Anderson

                                  Hangar 101

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                                  • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                    @meh1951 yes, scripted event window should look like this

                                    4826de71-06b1-4448-be27-b83bbefe5bae-image.png

                                    Notice the first condition line just evaluates the lever position.

                                    Anderson

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                                    meh1951
                                    wrote on last edited by meh1951
                                    #28

                                    @anderson not sure I know how to do that

                                    791de9c9-bd9a-43ed-a734-78c6bf992e97-image.png

                                    ?

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                                    • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                      @meh1951 yes, scripted event window should look like this

                                      4826de71-06b1-4448-be27-b83bbefe5bae-image.png

                                      Notice the first condition line just evaluates the lever position.

                                      Anderson

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                                      meh1951
                                      wrote on last edited by meh1951
                                      #29

                                      @anderson
                                      This is what I am supposed to have ... correct?

                                      (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 0) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 25))

                                      [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 0

                                      B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Cut_Off-Event

                                      (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 26) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 74))

                                      [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 1

                                      B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle-Event

                                      (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 75) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 100))

                                      [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 2

                                      B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_High_Idel-Event

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                                      • M meh1951

                                        @anderson
                                        This is what I am supposed to have ... correct?

                                        (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 0) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 25))

                                        [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 0

                                        B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Cut_Off-Event

                                        (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 26) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 74))

                                        [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 1

                                        B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle-Event

                                        (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 75) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 100))

                                        [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 2

                                        B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_High_Idel-Event

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                                        hangar_101
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                                        #30

                                        @meh1951 correct. make sure repeat ON. If you want it to be exactly as the example I sent you use the is in range option for evaluating the axis value.

                                        Hangar 101

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                                        • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                          @meh1951 correct. make sure repeat ON. If you want it to be exactly as the example I sent you use the is in range option for evaluating the axis value.

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                                          meh1951
                                          wrote on last edited by meh1951
                                          #31

                                          @anderson
                                          Was the screen shot at 28 correct?

                                          or is this

                                          b556ae46-5a8d-400c-8e69-81450aaa587f-image.png

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