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  • M meh1951

    @lemny
    Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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    Lemny
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    #10

    @meh1951 feather should work by simply set the standard prop axis to a huge negative value like -5000 IIRC. I could double check it tomorrow, but my feather settings worked on all my recent planes like C310, Baron and King Air.

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    • L Lemny

      @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

      As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
      Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

      Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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      hangar_101
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      #11

      @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

      In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

      dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

      Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

      axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
      9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
      There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

      axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
      24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
      - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

      axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
      11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
      - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

      These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

      In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

      1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

      Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

      There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

      Regards

      Anderson

      Hangar 101

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      • M meh1951

        @lemny
        Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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        hangar_101
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        @meh1951 below follows how I setup feather in the KA

        There are two events (axis change event & scripted event)
        829860fe-b716-4067-bbb0-9eb54b150a87-image.png

        The axis change event is a regular one for controlling the propeller axis
        d9cfaa79-b2e5-491d-a6d2-aecd40c42b83-image.png

        The scripted event is the one that controls the feather position
        f41725c6-31be-4a0e-9421-5e52b15688e5-image.png

        Regards

        Anderson

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        • hangar_101H hangar_101

          @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

          In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

          dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

          Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

          axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
          9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
          There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

          axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
          24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
          - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

          axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
          11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
          - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

          These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

          In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

          1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

          Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

          There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

          Regards

          Anderson

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          meh1951
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          #13

          @anderson
          I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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          • M meh1951

            @anderson
            I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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            hangar_101
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            #14

            @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
            This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
            The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

            Hangar 101

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            • hangar_101H hangar_101

              @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
              This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
              The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

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              meh1951
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              #15

              @anderson
              Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

              705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

              1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

              Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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              • M meh1951

                @anderson
                Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

                705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

                1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

                Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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                hangar_101
                wrote on last edited by hangar_101
                #16

                @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                Regards,

                Anderson

                Hangar 101

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                • hangar_101H hangar_101

                  @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                  Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                  For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                  Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                  The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                  Regards,

                  Anderson

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                  meh1951
                  wrote on last edited by meh1951
                  #17

                  @anderson

                  Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                  Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                  4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                  • M meh1951

                    @anderson

                    Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                    Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                    4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                    hangar_101
                    wrote on last edited by hangar_101
                    #18

                    @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                    Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                    As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                    LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                    18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                    The condition lever setup
                    b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                    Cut Off setup
                    cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                    If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                    There will be 3 entries for each lever

                    0 - 25 Cut Off
                    26 - 73 Low Idle
                    75 - 100 High Idle

                    You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                    Regards,

                    Anderson

                    Hangar 101

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                    • hangar_101H hangar_101

                      @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                      Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                      As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                      LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                      18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                      The condition lever setup
                      b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                      Cut Off setup
                      cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                      If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                      There will be 3 entries for each lever

                      0 - 25 Cut Off
                      26 - 73 Low Idle
                      75 - 100 High Idle

                      You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                      Regards,

                      Anderson

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                      meh1951
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                      #19

                      @anderson

                      Thank you buddy the first screen shot answered a ton of questions for me.

                      I will try this...

                      thanks for your support!

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                      • hangar_101H hangar_101

                        @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                        Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                        As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                        LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                        18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                        The condition lever setup
                        b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                        Cut Off setup
                        cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                        If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                        There will be 3 entries for each lever

                        0 - 25 Cut Off
                        26 - 73 Low Idle
                        75 - 100 High Idle

                        You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                        Regards,

                        Anderson

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                        meh1951
                        wrote on last edited by meh1951
                        #20

                        @anderson

                        Does this look close??

                        b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                        b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                        f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                        fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                        • M meh1951

                          @anderson

                          Does this look close??

                          b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                          b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                          f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                          fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                          meh1951
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                          #21

                          @meh1951
                          No I still have problems.
                          Handle still not moving and Looping

                          Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                          Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                          • M meh1951

                            @meh1951
                            No I still have problems.
                            Handle still not moving and Looping

                            Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                            Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                            hangar_101
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                            #22

                            @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                            866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                            It should be ON

                            You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                            d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                            by

                            7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                            Regards

                            Anderson

                            Hangar 101

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                            • hangar_101H hangar_101

                              @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                              866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                              It should be ON

                              You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                              d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                              by

                              7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                              Regards

                              Anderson

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                              meh1951
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                              #23

                              @anderson
                              Repeat has been implemented but still the same results

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                              • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                                866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                                It should be ON

                                You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                                d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                                by

                                7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                                Regards

                                Anderson

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                                meh1951
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #24

                                @anderson
                                Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                                ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                                • M meh1951

                                  @anderson
                                  Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                                  ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                                  hangar_101
                                  wrote on last edited by hangar_101
                                  #25

                                  @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                                  5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                                  Your condition is different

                                  Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                                  Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                                  Your condition
                                  f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                                  The correct condition
                                  429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                                  There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                                  Give it a try as indicated.

                                  Anderson

                                  Hangar 101

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                                  • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                    @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                                    5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                                    Your condition is different

                                    Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                                    Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                                    Your condition
                                    f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                                    The correct condition
                                    429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                                    There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                                    Give it a try as indicated.

                                    Anderson

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                                    meh1951
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                                    #26

                                    @anderson
                                    Are you talking about the
                                    While TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER:2 equals ??

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                                    • M meh1951

                                      @anderson
                                      Are you talking about the
                                      While TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER:2 equals ??

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                                      hangar_101
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @meh1951 yes, scripted event window should look like this

                                      4826de71-06b1-4448-be27-b83bbefe5bae-image.png

                                      Notice the first condition line just evaluates the lever position.

                                      Anderson

                                      Hangar 101

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                                      • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                        @meh1951 yes, scripted event window should look like this

                                        4826de71-06b1-4448-be27-b83bbefe5bae-image.png

                                        Notice the first condition line just evaluates the lever position.

                                        Anderson

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                                        meh1951
                                        wrote on last edited by meh1951
                                        #28

                                        @anderson not sure I know how to do that

                                        791de9c9-bd9a-43ed-a734-78c6bf992e97-image.png

                                        ?

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                                        • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                          @meh1951 yes, scripted event window should look like this

                                          4826de71-06b1-4448-be27-b83bbefe5bae-image.png

                                          Notice the first condition line just evaluates the lever position.

                                          Anderson

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                                          meh1951
                                          wrote on last edited by meh1951
                                          #29

                                          @anderson
                                          This is what I am supposed to have ... correct?

                                          (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 0) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 25))

                                          [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 0

                                          B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Cut_Off-Event

                                          (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 26) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 74))

                                          [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 1

                                          B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle-Event

                                          (([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] >= 75) && ([LOCAL:JOY_0X294B0X1901_Z_AXIS] <= 100))

                                          [TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:2] != 2

                                          B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_High_Idel-Event

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