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  • M meh1951

    @voice-of-reason

    The TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:1 or 2 are also values 0, 1 and 2.
    0 = cutoff
    1 = low
    2 = high

    I can't find these variables but when I do I will try to get B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off working

    As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next

    Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

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    Lemny
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    @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

    As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
    Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

    Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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    • L Lemny

      @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

      As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
      Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

      Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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      #9

      @lemny
      Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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        @lemny
        Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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        Lemny
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        @meh1951 feather should work by simply set the standard prop axis to a huge negative value like -5000 IIRC. I could double check it tomorrow, but my feather settings worked on all my recent planes like C310, Baron and King Air.

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        • L Lemny

          @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

          As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
          Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

          Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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          hangar_101
          wrote on last edited by hangar_101
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          @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

          In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

          dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

          Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

          axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
          9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
          There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

          axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
          24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
          - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

          axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
          11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
          - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

          These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

          In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

          1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

          Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

          There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

          Regards

          Anderson

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          • M meh1951

            @lemny
            Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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            hangar_101
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            @meh1951 below follows how I setup feather in the KA

            There are two events (axis change event & scripted event)
            829860fe-b716-4067-bbb0-9eb54b150a87-image.png

            The axis change event is a regular one for controlling the propeller axis
            d9cfaa79-b2e5-491d-a6d2-aecd40c42b83-image.png

            The scripted event is the one that controls the feather position
            f41725c6-31be-4a0e-9421-5e52b15688e5-image.png

            Regards

            Anderson

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            • hangar_101H hangar_101

              @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

              In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

              dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

              Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

              axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
              9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
              There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

              axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
              24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
              - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

              axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
              11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
              - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

              These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

              In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

              1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

              Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

              There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

              Regards

              Anderson

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              meh1951
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              @anderson
              I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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              • M meh1951

                @anderson
                I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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                hangar_101
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                @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
                This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
                The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

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                • hangar_101H hangar_101

                  @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
                  This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
                  The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

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                  meh1951
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                  @anderson
                  Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

                  705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

                  1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

                  Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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                  • M meh1951

                    @anderson
                    Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

                    705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

                    1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

                    Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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                    hangar_101
                    wrote on last edited by hangar_101
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                    @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                    Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                    For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                    Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                    The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                    Regards,

                    Anderson

                    Hangar 101

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                    • hangar_101H hangar_101

                      @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                      Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                      For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                      Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                      The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                      Regards,

                      Anderson

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                      meh1951
                      wrote on last edited by meh1951
                      #17

                      @anderson

                      Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                      Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                      4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                      • M meh1951

                        @anderson

                        Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                        Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                        4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                        hangar_101
                        wrote on last edited by hangar_101
                        #18

                        @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                        Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                        As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                        LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                        18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                        The condition lever setup
                        b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                        Cut Off setup
                        cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                        If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                        There will be 3 entries for each lever

                        0 - 25 Cut Off
                        26 - 73 Low Idle
                        75 - 100 High Idle

                        You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                        Regards,

                        Anderson

                        Hangar 101

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                        • hangar_101H hangar_101

                          @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                          Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                          As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                          LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                          18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                          The condition lever setup
                          b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                          Cut Off setup
                          cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                          If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                          There will be 3 entries for each lever

                          0 - 25 Cut Off
                          26 - 73 Low Idle
                          75 - 100 High Idle

                          You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                          Regards,

                          Anderson

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                          meh1951
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                          @anderson

                          Thank you buddy the first screen shot answered a ton of questions for me.

                          I will try this...

                          thanks for your support!

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                          • hangar_101H hangar_101

                            @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                            Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                            As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                            LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                            18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                            The condition lever setup
                            b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                            Cut Off setup
                            cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                            If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                            There will be 3 entries for each lever

                            0 - 25 Cut Off
                            26 - 73 Low Idle
                            75 - 100 High Idle

                            You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                            Regards,

                            Anderson

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                            meh1951
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                            @anderson

                            Does this look close??

                            b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                            b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                            f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                            fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                            • M meh1951

                              @anderson

                              Does this look close??

                              b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                              b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                              f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                              fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                              meh1951
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                              @meh1951
                              No I still have problems.
                              Handle still not moving and Looping

                              Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                              Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                              • M meh1951

                                @meh1951
                                No I still have problems.
                                Handle still not moving and Looping

                                Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                                Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                                hangar_101
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                                @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                                866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                                It should be ON

                                You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                                d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                                by

                                7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                                Regards

                                Anderson

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                                • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                  @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                                  866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                                  It should be ON

                                  You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                                  d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                                  by

                                  7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                                  Regards

                                  Anderson

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                                  meh1951
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #23

                                  @anderson
                                  Repeat has been implemented but still the same results

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                                  • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                    @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                                    866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                                    It should be ON

                                    You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                                    d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                                    by

                                    7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                                    Regards

                                    Anderson

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                                    meh1951
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #24

                                    @anderson
                                    Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                                    ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                                    • M meh1951

                                      @anderson
                                      Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                                      ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                                      hangar_101
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                                      @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                                      5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                                      Your condition is different

                                      Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                                      Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                                      Your condition
                                      f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                                      The correct condition
                                      429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                                      There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                                      Give it a try as indicated.

                                      Anderson

                                      Hangar 101

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                                      • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                        @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                                        5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                                        Your condition is different

                                        Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                                        Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                                        Your condition
                                        f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                                        The correct condition
                                        429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                                        There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                                        Give it a try as indicated.

                                        Anderson

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                                        meh1951
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                                        @anderson
                                        Are you talking about the
                                        While TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER:2 equals ??

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                                        • M meh1951

                                          @anderson
                                          Are you talking about the
                                          While TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER:2 equals ??

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                                          hangar_101
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                                          @meh1951 yes, scripted event window should look like this

                                          4826de71-06b1-4448-be27-b83bbefe5bae-image.png

                                          Notice the first condition line just evaluates the lever position.

                                          Anderson

                                          Hangar 101

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