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  • V Voice of Reason

    From the developer, hope this helps...

    'The condition lever behavior is unmodified from the Asobo default behavior. I recommend using the following B:Vars, instead of the A:Var, though. That should ensure that the lever moves as it would in any default aircraft.

    B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off
    B:FUEL_2_Condition_lever_Cut_Off
    B:FUEL_1_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle
    B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle
    B:FUEL_1_Condition_Lever_High_Idle
    B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_High_Idle

    The L:Var for the master panel lighting switch is: L:var_masterPanelLights.'

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    @voice-of-reason

    The TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:1 or 2 are also values 0, 1 and 2.
    0 = cutoff
    1 = low
    2 = high

    I can't find these variables but when I do I will try to get B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off working

    As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next

    Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

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      @voice-of-reason

      The TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:1 or 2 are also values 0, 1 and 2.
      0 = cutoff
      1 = low
      2 = high

      I can't find these variables but when I do I will try to get B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off working

      As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next

      Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

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      @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

      As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
      Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

      Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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        @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

        As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
        Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

        Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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        @lemny
        Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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          @lemny
          Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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          Lemny
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          #10

          @meh1951 feather should work by simply set the standard prop axis to a huge negative value like -5000 IIRC. I could double check it tomorrow, but my feather settings worked on all my recent planes like C310, Baron and King Air.

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          • L Lemny

            @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

            As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
            Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

            Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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            hangar_101
            wrote on last edited by hangar_101
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            @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

            In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

            dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

            Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

            axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
            9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
            There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

            axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
            24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
            - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

            axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
            11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
            - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

            These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

            In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

            1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

            Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

            There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

            Regards

            Anderson

            Hangar 101

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              @lemny
              Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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              hangar_101
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              #12

              @meh1951 below follows how I setup feather in the KA

              There are two events (axis change event & scripted event)
              829860fe-b716-4067-bbb0-9eb54b150a87-image.png

              The axis change event is a regular one for controlling the propeller axis
              d9cfaa79-b2e5-491d-a6d2-aecd40c42b83-image.png

              The scripted event is the one that controls the feather position
              f41725c6-31be-4a0e-9421-5e52b15688e5-image.png

              Regards

              Anderson

              Hangar 101

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              • hangar_101H hangar_101

                @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

                In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

                dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

                Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

                axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
                9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
                There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

                axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
                24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
                - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

                axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
                11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
                - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

                These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

                In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

                1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

                Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

                There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

                Regards

                Anderson

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                meh1951
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                @anderson
                I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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                  @anderson
                  I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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                  hangar_101
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                  @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
                  This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
                  The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

                  Hangar 101

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                  • hangar_101H hangar_101

                    @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
                    This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
                    The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

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                    #15

                    @anderson
                    Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

                    705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

                    1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

                    Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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                      @anderson
                      Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

                      705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

                      1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

                      Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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                      hangar_101
                      wrote on last edited by hangar_101
                      #16

                      @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                      Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                      For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                      Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                      The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                      Regards,

                      Anderson

                      Hangar 101

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                      • hangar_101H hangar_101

                        @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                        Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                        For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                        Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                        The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                        Regards,

                        Anderson

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                        meh1951
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                        #17

                        @anderson

                        Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                        Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                        4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                          @anderson

                          Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                          Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                          4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                          hangar_101
                          wrote on last edited by hangar_101
                          #18

                          @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                          Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                          As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                          LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                          18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                          The condition lever setup
                          b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                          Cut Off setup
                          cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                          If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                          There will be 3 entries for each lever

                          0 - 25 Cut Off
                          26 - 73 Low Idle
                          75 - 100 High Idle

                          You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                          Regards,

                          Anderson

                          Hangar 101

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                          • hangar_101H hangar_101

                            @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                            Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                            As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                            LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                            18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                            The condition lever setup
                            b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                            Cut Off setup
                            cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                            If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                            There will be 3 entries for each lever

                            0 - 25 Cut Off
                            26 - 73 Low Idle
                            75 - 100 High Idle

                            You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                            Regards,

                            Anderson

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                            meh1951
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                            @anderson

                            Thank you buddy the first screen shot answered a ton of questions for me.

                            I will try this...

                            thanks for your support!

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                            • hangar_101H hangar_101

                              @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                              Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                              As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                              LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                              18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                              The condition lever setup
                              b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                              Cut Off setup
                              cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                              If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                              There will be 3 entries for each lever

                              0 - 25 Cut Off
                              26 - 73 Low Idle
                              75 - 100 High Idle

                              You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                              Regards,

                              Anderson

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                              meh1951
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                              @anderson

                              Does this look close??

                              b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                              b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                              f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                              fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                                @anderson

                                Does this look close??

                                b558ad02-8120-4de3-b1e7-8fefda9b0d57-image.png

                                b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                                f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                                fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                                @meh1951
                                No I still have problems.
                                Handle still not moving and Looping

                                Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                                Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                                  @meh1951
                                  No I still have problems.
                                  Handle still not moving and Looping

                                  Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                                  Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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                                  hangar_101
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                                  @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                                  866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                                  It should be ON

                                  You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                                  d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                                  by

                                  7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                                  Regards

                                  Anderson

                                  Hangar 101

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                                  • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                    @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                                    866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                                    It should be ON

                                    You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                                    d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                                    by

                                    7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                                    Regards

                                    Anderson

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                                    meh1951
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                                    #23

                                    @anderson
                                    Repeat has been implemented but still the same results

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                                    • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                      @meh1951 you are almost there, notice you have not activated the repeat feature

                                      866dbfc4-6d55-401d-9419-cd71403c2d8f-image.png

                                      It should be ON

                                      You also can simplify the evaluation code by replacing the following line

                                      d6398601-6dbe-4d51-a47b-d56af26742dd-image.png

                                      by

                                      7bad4c3a-e8e2-40af-b834-1f07a30c208b-image.png

                                      Regards

                                      Anderson

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                                      meh1951
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #24

                                      @anderson
                                      Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                                      ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                                        @anderson
                                        Gone through a lot of programming but it's still the same results

                                        ccd74373-ff83-4258-8ced-240cef332f5e-image.png

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                                        hangar_101
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                                        @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                                        5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                                        Your condition is different

                                        Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                                        Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                                        Your condition
                                        f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                                        The correct condition
                                        429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                                        There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                                        Give it a try as indicated.

                                        Anderson

                                        Hangar 101

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                                        • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                          @meh1951 the very first condition should be

                                          5d09c751-f887-452d-977d-a4e25ed4a557-image.png

                                          Your condition is different

                                          Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2 equals ((LOCAL:JOY .... <=100))

                                          Delete this Turb Eng Condition Lever Position:2

                                          Your condition
                                          f4e96980-2d85-444a-9627-6ef729e678d8-image.png

                                          The correct condition
                                          429dbb74-547d-4abf-9bf7-b61330a86df5-image.png

                                          There's no Turbo Eng Condition Lever Position:2 in the first line.

                                          Give it a try as indicated.

                                          Anderson

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                                          meh1951
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                                          @anderson
                                          Are you talking about the
                                          While TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER:2 equals ??

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