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    meh1951
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    Where can I get the variables I need to get my HC Alpha & Bravo to work?

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      Lemny
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      Same Problem here... also can't get the panel light switch to work. The default event works, but a second later is overwritten by the switch in the cockpit.

      Please guys... give us a proper documentaion. Many of us using real switches.

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        Same Problem here... also can't get the panel light switch to work. The default event works, but a second later is overwritten by the switch in the cockpit.

        Please guys... give us a proper documentaion. Many of us using real switches.

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        meh1951
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        @lemny Here is some info
        https://community.justflight.com/topic/4441/ka350i-avionics-switch

        But I have not been able to get it to work yet.

        I'd rather be flying!!

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          @lemny Here is some info
          https://community.justflight.com/topic/4441/ka350i-avionics-switch

          But I have not been able to get it to work yet.

          I'd rather be flying!!

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          Lemny
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          @meh1951 I figured that the condition lever axis in the sim works. But thats not a satisfying solution because you want the stuff in one place and profile and not a mix of ingame and simconnect stuff.

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            From the developer, hope this helps...

            'The condition lever behavior is unmodified from the Asobo default behavior. I recommend using the following B:Vars, instead of the A:Var, though. That should ensure that the lever moves as it would in any default aircraft.

            B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off
            B:FUEL_2_Condition_lever_Cut_Off
            B:FUEL_1_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle
            B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle
            B:FUEL_1_Condition_Lever_High_Idle
            B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_High_Idle

            The L:Var for the master panel lighting switch is: L:var_masterPanelLights.'

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              From the developer, hope this helps...

              'The condition lever behavior is unmodified from the Asobo default behavior. I recommend using the following B:Vars, instead of the A:Var, though. That should ensure that the lever moves as it would in any default aircraft.

              B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off
              B:FUEL_2_Condition_lever_Cut_Off
              B:FUEL_1_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle
              B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_Low_Idle
              B:FUEL_1_Condition_Lever_High_Idle
              B:FUEL_2_Condition_Lever_High_Idle

              The L:Var for the master panel lighting switch is: L:var_masterPanelLights.'

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              meh1951
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              @voice-of-reason

              The TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:1 or 2 are also values 0, 1 and 2.
              0 = cutoff
              1 = low
              2 = high

              I can't find these variables but when I do I will try to get B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off working

              As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next

              Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

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                @voice-of-reason

                The TURB ENG CONDITION LEVER POSITION:1 or 2 are also values 0, 1 and 2.
                0 = cutoff
                1 = low
                2 = high

                I can't find these variables but when I do I will try to get B:FUEL_1_Condition_lever_Cut_Off working

                As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next

                Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

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                Lemny
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                @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

                As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
                Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

                Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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                  @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

                  As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
                  Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

                  Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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                  meh1951
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                  @lemny
                  Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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                    @lemny
                    Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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                    Lemny
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                    @meh1951 feather should work by simply set the standard prop axis to a huge negative value like -5000 IIRC. I could double check it tomorrow, but my feather settings worked on all my recent planes like C310, Baron and King Air.

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                      @meh1951 said in KA350 Condition Levers:

                      As a follow up not sure you can use B:Vars in Spad.Next
                      Confirmed B:Vars are not yet implemented in SPAD.Next

                      Is confirmed to be in the next Alpha. I will test it out and post solutions here if the miussing stuff could be solved with B:Vars.

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                      hangar_101
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                      @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

                      In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

                      dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

                      Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

                      axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
                      9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
                      There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

                      axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
                      24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
                      - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

                      axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
                      11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
                      - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

                      These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

                      In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

                      1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

                      Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

                      There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

                      Regards

                      Anderson

                      Hangar 101

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                        @lemny
                        Thanks...just wanting to be able to feather.

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                        hangar_101
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                        @meh1951 below follows how I setup feather in the KA

                        There are two events (axis change event & scripted event)
                        829860fe-b716-4067-bbb0-9eb54b150a87-image.png

                        The axis change event is a regular one for controlling the propeller axis
                        d9cfaa79-b2e5-491d-a6d2-aecd40c42b83-image.png

                        The scripted event is the one that controls the feather position
                        f41725c6-31be-4a0e-9421-5e52b15688e5-image.png

                        Regards

                        Anderson

                        Hangar 101

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                        • hangar_101H hangar_101

                          @lemny it does work in Spad, see below how I have it implemented

                          In the client events page I have created the following events using the B:Vars

                          dc542f65-e4a2-4cd6-995b-9762c9ddea8d-image.png

                          Below an example of axis setup in Spad.Next

                          axis range between 0 and 25 (Cut Off)
                          9560adb6-58a9-4bda-a50c-deacfbba164a-image.png
                          There's a delay in the axis movement so I added a check for the condition lever position != 0 so I could activate the repeat function to make sure no matter how fast I move the lever it will always catch up and get the position right - without such check of the condition lever position it would create an infinite loop (and we don't want to waste resource on that, right?! :) )

                          axis range between 26 and 74 (Low Idle)
                          24d9a07e-a3fa-414c-a76f-5b02db4ad75f-image.png
                          - the condition lever position must be != 1 in this case

                          axis range between 75 and 100 (High Idle)
                          11a2d0f7-938b-4573-acc4-c060b1af6c2e-image.png
                          - the condition lever position must be != 2 in this case

                          These are all script events hence I get the levers in the game in sync with my hardware all the time.

                          In case someone does not know where to find the Client Events page

                          1f88b4c5-d9b7-4571-b521-facf4404d051-image.png

                          Some extra 2 cents (out of topic)

                          There are some other events I have added you guys may find useful like events for the Radar, External Power, Pressurization Alt knob (yeah I also use the same event in the C414AW), for instance. Check it out!

                          Regards

                          Anderson

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                          meh1951
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                          @anderson
                          I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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                            @anderson
                            I have tried to replicate this but I am not sure what the reference to Local:Joy_0X16D00X09C1_Slider is or where it came from. I do not have it on my system.

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                            hangar_101
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                            @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
                            This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
                            The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

                            Hangar 101

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                              @meh1951 you got to replace that by whatever the appropriate var for your hardware lever/switch/button is.
                              This var just tells spad.next whether that button/switch of your hardware position is pressed or not - for instance.
                              The key piece of information here is the PROP_PITCH2_SET (-25), that's the one that actually makes the lever move to the feather position in the game.

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                              meh1951
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                              @anderson
                              Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

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                              Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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                                @anderson
                                Could not get the feather to work that way but I did get it to work this way

                                705c68f5-da88-4fe3-a4c2-1ecd867d68a2-image.png

                                1d7fe1cb-c4b1-4173-a209-fbc638d2a87b-image.png

                                Still have not got the Condition Levers to work :-(

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                                hangar_101
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                                @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                                Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                                For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                                Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                                The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                                Regards,

                                Anderson

                                Hangar 101

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                                • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                  @meh1951 for button 26 try to setup the following

                                  Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH1_SET - Event (-25) for Left Prop

                                  For whatever the other button used for right prop set the following

                                  Button Pressed -> Send PROP_PITCH2_SET - Event (-25) for Right Prop

                                  The condition levers you got to create those events listed above first

                                  Regards,

                                  Anderson

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                                  meh1951
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                                  @anderson

                                  Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                                  Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                                  4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                                    @anderson

                                    Yes I got feather wotking your way...thx

                                    Yes I created the BVars and copied what you had minus the Joy

                                    4ce712eb-9c24-4fb6-9dfd-cf19a24714dd-image.png

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                                    hangar_101
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                                    @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                                    Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                                    As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                                    LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                                    18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                                    The condition lever setup
                                    b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                                    Cut Off setup
                                    cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                                    If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                                    There will be 3 entries for each lever

                                    0 - 25 Cut Off
                                    26 - 73 Low Idle
                                    75 - 100 High Idle

                                    You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                                    Regards,

                                    Anderson

                                    Hangar 101

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                                      @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                                      Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                                      As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                                      LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                                      18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                                      The condition lever setup
                                      b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                                      Cut Off setup
                                      cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                                      If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                                      There will be 3 entries for each lever

                                      0 - 25 Cut Off
                                      26 - 73 Low Idle
                                      75 - 100 High Idle

                                      You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                                      Regards,

                                      Anderson

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                                      meh1951
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                                      @anderson

                                      Thank you buddy the first screen shot answered a ton of questions for me.

                                      I will try this...

                                      thanks for your support!

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                                      • hangar_101H hangar_101

                                        @meh1951 how are controlling the lever? Are you using one of the Bravo axis for that?

                                        Show a printscreen of the Spad.Next setup you have for controlling the lever.

                                        As per the printscreen you have sent before I guess your setup will be something like

                                        LOCAL: search for RX_AXIS in the Bravo device list
                                        18fed926-b339-4a8a-a236-2cdad4e128b5-image.png

                                        The condition lever setup
                                        b2ca05d8-af92-4548-8b20-4f8f135aa769-image.png

                                        Cut Off setup
                                        cb762f32-03e7-4fa9-ac37-3f04a95026cf-image.png

                                        If you are going to use a different axis just replace the RX_AXIS by the correct axis name

                                        There will be 3 entries for each lever

                                        0 - 25 Cut Off
                                        26 - 73 Low Idle
                                        75 - 100 High Idle

                                        You may change these range values to whatever range is best for you.

                                        Regards,

                                        Anderson

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                                        meh1951
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                                        @anderson

                                        Does this look close??

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                                          @anderson

                                          Does this look close??

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                                          b56e6a5f-cba1-4a74-bd07-d7b1754175ef-image.png

                                          f67a4f1b-70e9-4a2f-b307-ead7a7d53beb-image.png

                                          fb2fb243-3087-4989-b5e3-f11cb3bc1969-image.png

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                                          meh1951
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                                          @meh1951
                                          No I still have problems.
                                          Handle still not moving and Looping

                                          Just realized I am getting 0 and 1 in the data monitor not 0 to 100 for the TURN ENG CONDITION LEVER

                                          Failed again. Been working on this way to long.

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