CTD when using GPS
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I uninstalled the GNS mod and made (finally) my flight to Spain.
What I noticed is that around Geneva (where I usually CTDed many times) I still had stutters, but this time I didn’t finally crashed to desktop.
I think there might be a problem with that zone of the scenery, and when it is coupled with the mod, everything blows.
I have installed back the GNS mod and now I’m flying with no issues over Spain.
If somebody want to try flying that zone and see what happens, you can do the route from WIL (VOR) - GVA (VOR) - PINOT (fix). I get the stutters in the leg from GVA to PINOT. Also, likely relevant to replicate, my LOD radius is set to 3.
Cheers
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@theissondergaard No, I don’t.
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So I checked the assumption about the spawning ground aircraft.
In the screenshot of LNM you can see at the top a red circle, where the game CTDed on my first attempt (flying southwards).
Second attempt was fine and I crossed EDDF without issues.
On the way back, I checked at which distance the sim spawns the ground aircraft and the second (bottom left) red circle shows the position when the aircraft appeared at EDDF.
The distance was exactly the same as when my first CTD happened (blue arrows show the distance), and I was at the same altitude (8000ft).So for me at least in this case the ground aircraft are very likely to have caused the issue.
Whenever you face a CTD, maybe you can crosscheck if there was a bigger airport you were approaching (probably the spawn distance depends on the altitude, not sure though). -
Reading the end of this monster thread:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/crash-to-desktop-without-error-message/130085/3166Quite a few complaints about crashing 20-30 minutes into a flight after the latest msfs update. Which fits my experience completely.
Some advise to also disable and re-enable rolling cache, apart from turning off ai traffic and airport ground vehicles etc. Perhaps worth a try @copper
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I also began having CTD's after installing the latest version of the GNS530 mod... I removed it and the CTD's stopped occurring.
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@RetiredMan93231 Do you know when you started using the mod? Was it just now, today?
Also, when having the ctd, any chance that you were on approach or choosing your approach on the GNS530?
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@copper Bad news for me on the ai traffic - had another ctd on approach to EDDK. I have discovered that if you want spawned aircraft gone completely, you also need to turn off Multiplayer (in the Data section of settings). Whether it makes a difference or not, I don't know yet.
EDIT: aaaand now I just had another ctd, with multiplayer turned off. This is frustrating, the sim is basically useless to me these days - completing any flight is a 50/50 chance for me... :(
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@theissondergaard said in CTD when using GPS:
@RetiredMan93231 Do you know when you started using the mod? Was it just now, today?
Also, when having the ctd, any chance that you were on approach or choosing your approach on the GNS530?
I started using the mod yesterday. I was not on approach, or using the GNS530 for anything except the map display. I experienced multiple random CTD's since installing it. They usually occurred during climb out after takeoff from KLAX.
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@RetiredMan93231 Thanks for the info!
That does it! I'm also removing the mod and will see if I get stable flying back. I so want(ed) it not to be causedd by the mod, because it's so much better than the stock 530, but I seem to have tried everything else with no success.
If my problem is the mod, I'm mystified as to why. I've used it for many many months, with no apparent issues. Then two things happened: I started flying the JF Piper v1.3 instead of 1.2, and Asobo released their hotfix. After that, I've had crash-fest galore... So why it would be the mod, I don't know - but now I'll try it and report back.
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@theissondergaard Could it be that Asobo's hotfix iintroduced a conflict with the GNS530 mod. Might that explain why the mod was working OK for you before? Just a thought ...
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Pretty sure the mod has nothing to do with it. It simply reads and writes data from/to the sim in a common way, I don't see anything particularly special in what it's doing especially compared to mods like the FBW A32NX.
But I'm curious about your feedback.
It could as well be that we all have different reasons of CTD which would result in no common findings. Hard to tell.Anyone flying another aircraft than the JF PA28R and having CTDs as well?
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@copper said in CTD when using GPS:
Anyone flying another aircraft than the JF PA28R and having CTDs as well?
I was not having CTD's prior to installing the GNS530 Mod... and it not occur with other aircraft. But, I do have CTD's on rare occasions when I try to configure a second new flight without first completely quitting to the desktop and restarting MSFS.
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"Unfortunately", so far so good without the mod. Completed 3 flights from parking to parking without any ctd. I put everything back to my normal configuration, meaning AI traffic on, live weather, ground aircrafts in airports, a full community folder etc. Only thing changed is that I'm not running the 530 mod.
Still too early to conclude for me, though. I did also have 3 flights a few days ago, with the mod, only to then have it crash on me multiple times. I'll need to log at least 2 more days without crashes - and then I'll want to put the mod back and have crashes, before I'm willing to blame it :)
Also, I had happily forgotten how much the stock 530 is lacking.... :crying_face:
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@RetiredMan93231 I know this is quite a lot to ask :) But given how immediate and consistent your problems were with the mod, I was wondering if you'd be willing to put it back in, and then take some flights with another aircraft using the 530, like the 172 classic, or the Mooney from Carenado, provided you have one of those. Would be very interesting to see if it's a problem across aircrafts (which I'd assume it is).
Also, very sorry for recommending the mod to you in the first place :anxious_face_with_sweat: I swear, it used to work very very well, and it's so much better than the stock 530 :D
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@theissondergaard , Thanks for the recommending this mod originally, it has much more functionality than the default 530, and when they get the CTD problem fixed I plan to add it back in...
Have you had any more CTD's since removing it...? Also, I have not reported this bug to the Author... have you?
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"Have you had any more CTD's since removing it...?"
I have not, but also only had 3 flights today without it. It's too early for me to say for sure, I'll need a few more crash-free days :)I have told the author of the mod about this thread and that some of us suspect a problem with the mod. I've posted his response in this thread already, but here it is again.
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Difficult to answer here. I got CTDs myself with or without the GNS530 MOD. A CTD is always a kernel crash and not a MOD issue written in javascript. We hope Asobo to make the kernel not crashing in any way as far it is possible. Now , the kernel may crash following some orders sent by a MOD (that places the kernel in crash condition).
Sometimes you may have also a temporary freeze especially when selecting a waypoint. This comes back after seconds. Again here, this is at kernel level. I can't do anything.
If the CTD occurs while you don't do anything with the GNS530 buttons, this will be difficult to analyse and it may be caused by many internal events, even with something not related to the MOD. Try to disable traffic here since it may cause hazardous conditions.
Any CTD sequence that can be reproduced will help. Don't hesitate to send them to me (but well checked and not a 3hours flight!). Be sure also to read the bug reporting section of the documentation.
Nothing changed here since 1.0.29. The only difference between 1.0.29 and last version 1.0.31 concerns some minor things and the OBS implementation. Nothing that can cause a CTD here.
-.-.-.-.-.IF I do get more crash-free days, I intend to reach out to the author again with "stronger evidence" :) His problem is of course that it's very very hard for him to reproduce, since it's not obviously triggered by some specific action.
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For me it's difficult to reproduce, because (luckily) I got CTDs not very often. I guess, it's a combination of the G530 with the altitude hold. I'm not sure, but in my opinion, I only get CTDs when I use the autopilot including the altitude hold, I do not remember any CTDs without the altitude hold, so when I'm flying at VATSIM, I always avoid to use the altitude hold.
I use the G530 Mod in the 1.0.32 Version
Best regards,
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A happy update from my side, to anyone following this thread :)
The good news is that I'm now completely crash-free for 4 days running, and that I have a solid idea of what my issue was.
The "bad" news is that it turned out to have absolutely nothing to do with the Piper, the GNS530 mod, AI traffic, Community folder or any of the many other suspects I've had during this annoying period.
It turned out that my culprit was double-configured peripherals. I use flight controls from Virtual Fly, and they have their own calibration software that they recommend using for mapping the peripherals. They also strongly advise to NOT at the same time configure the peripherals within the sim. An advise that I had followed, but for some reason forgot about again sometime recently in the past.... (The problem is that the sim will get simultaneous and confusing signals from the peripherals, causing conflicts)
I'm honestly not quite sure when or especially why it happened, but around the time I started getting CTDs, I must have somehow gotten the yoke, rudder and tpm configured in both places.
I only noticed the problem because sometimes (perhaps 3 out of 20?), when the sim crashed to desktop, the Virtual Fly software would also pop up and tell me it quit with an error. Most crashes would be without any kind of accompanying message, but a few times I saw this. First I ignored it (great!), but third time it happened I started digging in to a possible connection.
In my case, the fix to ALL my problems was simple: Remove the in-sim configuration of my peripherals, to remove the conflict, and now I'm crash-free. I run with all my "old" mods installed, my normal settings with lots of live traffic etc.
It's very possible as @copper stated that people in this thread have widely different reasons for the crashes they experience, and we just happen to find each other because we're in this forum :)
