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Messed up fonts if selecting commander 114

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  • DerekD Derek

    @Jasemelbo

    It looks like that ticket was raised on Sunday, so you won't necessarily hear anything for a day or two and that will most likely be an acknoweldgement that the matter is being loked into. We are a UK-based company and work normal business hours Mon-Fri with some extra coverage on Saturdays.

    Looking at the thread above, it doesn't look like there is a 'fix' available. I imagine that support will collate the instances of this and pass the data to Black Square for investigation.

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    @Derek thanks for that. Need to resolve as the aircraft is unflyable with this issue.

    Thanks for getting back to me.

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      @Derek thanks for that. Need to resolve as the aircraft is unflyable with this issue.

      Thanks for getting back to me.

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      @Jasemelbo

      The problem seems to be limited to certain users - not all of them - so may be more difficult to find the common denominator.

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        @Jasemelbo

        The problem seems to be limited to certain users - not all of them - so may be more difficult to find the common denominator.

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        @Derek possibly, but either way, need to resolve it.

        Cheers.

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          @Derek possibly, but either way, need to resolve it.

          Cheers.

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          @Jasemelbo

          Only two people have posted about it so I am pretty sure it is not a universal 'feature'. However, Support will have a better idea about that.

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            @Jasemelbo , I contacted justflight customer service. After so many attempt including reinstalling MSFS, cleanup AMD driver, even trying on another PC, the problem persisted so I requested a refund.

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              @Derek possibly, but either way, need to resolve it.

              Cheers.

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              @jiangnan22406 Sorry to hear that. I have several things you could have tested, if you were interested in finding a solution.

              @Jasemelbo I can't hardly imagine what's going on here, but that doesn't mean we can't look for a solution! I would start by temporarily moving all the font files from the Commander community folder to somewhere else. I think this means the avionics will default to some other font, which should give us an idea of where to look next.

              That would be all three folders in [Your Community Folder]\bksq-aircraft-commander114\html_ui\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\Shared\Fonts\...

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                @jiangnan22406 Sorry to hear that. I have several things you could have tested, if you were interested in finding a solution.

                @Jasemelbo I can't hardly imagine what's going on here, but that doesn't mean we can't look for a solution! I would start by temporarily moving all the font files from the Commander community folder to somewhere else. I think this means the avionics will default to some other font, which should give us an idea of where to look next.

                That would be all three folders in [Your Community Folder]\bksq-aircraft-commander114\html_ui\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\Shared\Fonts\...

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                @Black-Square that's awesome. I am travelling for work next two days and when I get back I will try this and report back.

                Thank you 🙏

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                • Black SquareB Black Square

                  @jiangnan22406 Sorry to hear that. I have several things you could have tested, if you were interested in finding a solution.

                  @Jasemelbo I can't hardly imagine what's going on here, but that doesn't mean we can't look for a solution! I would start by temporarily moving all the font files from the Commander community folder to somewhere else. I think this means the avionics will default to some other font, which should give us an idea of where to look next.

                  That would be all three folders in [Your Community Folder]\bksq-aircraft-commander114\html_ui\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\Shared\Fonts\...

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                  @Black-Square just to add to this......this issue also extends to the sim menus as well.

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                    I had this issue, updated to the latest nvidia drivers (I was a month behind) and it went away.

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                      I had this issue, updated to the latest nvidia drivers (I was a month behind) and it went away.

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                      Jasemelbo
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                      @NikkiA Yeah - I have updated to the latest and still have the issue

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                      • Black SquareB Black Square

                        @jiangnan22406 Sorry to hear that. I have several things you could have tested, if you were interested in finding a solution.

                        @Jasemelbo I can't hardly imagine what's going on here, but that doesn't mean we can't look for a solution! I would start by temporarily moving all the font files from the Commander community folder to somewhere else. I think this means the avionics will default to some other font, which should give us an idea of where to look next.

                        That would be all three folders in [Your Community Folder]\bksq-aircraft-commander114\html_ui\Pages\VCockpit\Instruments\Shared\Fonts\...

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                        @Black-Square Yep - The sim menus and aircraft work properly with those folders removed. The only difference I can see in the aircraft is the radio stack digits look different.

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                          @Black-Square Yep - The sim menus and aircraft work properly with those folders removed. The only difference I can see in the aircraft is the radio stack digits look different.

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                          @Jasemelbo Excellent! Thanks for getting back to me. Okay, that's good information... Since there are only three folders, do you think you could try adding them back to see if we can isolate the font that's causing the problem?

                          To be honest, I'm not sure what we will do if we can figure out which font is to blame, because it's working fine for the vast majority of users, and I have no idea how a font could mess up the entire simulator, but we will work one step at a time 🙂

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                            No probs. I'll move each folder in one at a time and let you know.

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                              LCD FONTS Folder on its own is working good.

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                                Handwritten Folder with LCD FONTS Folder -> not good

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                                  Handwritten Folder with LCD FONTS Folder -> not good

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                                  @Jasemelbo
                                  Yup. That's the one I suspected. Do you still happen to have MSFS 2020 installed, by any chance? I would be very interested to know if it works in 2020. There is something very deep in 2024's code that doesn't like something about the font rendered on the keychain from the magneto switch. If you look closely, the color is washed out, while it's bright blue in 2020. I spent a lot of time trying to figure this out.

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                                    @Jasemelbo
                                    Yup. That's the one I suspected. Do you still happen to have MSFS 2020 installed, by any chance? I would be very interested to know if it works in 2020. There is something very deep in 2024's code that doesn't like something about the font rendered on the keychain from the magneto switch. If you look closely, the color is washed out, while it's bright blue in 2020. I spent a lot of time trying to figure this out.

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                                    @Black-Square No - I only have 2024 installed. Just trying Dot Matrix now

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                                      LCD FONTS with DOT MATRIX FONTS -> all good. Yep - it's the folder you thought. But hey! It works now, so that's awesome! I am happy to leave that other font out. But at least you know it may create some issues for some people.

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                                        LCD FONTS with DOT MATRIX FONTS -> all good. Yep - it's the folder you thought. But hey! It works now, so that's awesome! I am happy to leave that other font out. But at least you know it may create some issues for some people.

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                                        @Jasemelbo Excellent. Well, I'm glad it's working for you with no loss of form or functionality. If you were willing, at your leisure, could you try a couple more things to help me pinpoint the issue?

                                        1. It looks like I'm only using one of the fonts in that "handwritten" folder, which is brown_bag_lunch.ttf. Could you try deleting one or the other, and tell me what happens?

                                        2. I would be interest to know if the mere presence of the font is the issue, of it's only when it's loaded. If you could find...

                                        ...[Your Community Folder]\bksq-aircraft-commander114\html_ui\Pages\VLivery\Liveries\Registration\bksq_key_registration.css

                                        ...and replace the following line:

                                        src: url("/Pages/VCockpit/Instruments/Shared/Fonts/Handwritten/brown_bag_lunch.ttf") format("truetype");

                                        with this line...

                                        src: url("/Pages/VCockpit/Instruments/Shared/Fonts/DotMatrixFonts/5by7Mono.ttf") format("truetype");

                                        That would tell us something interesting.

                                        I think that's all the testing that can be done, but that should give me enough to go on.

                                        Thank you again so much, and let me know if you ever need anything else from me!

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                                          @Jasemelbo Excellent. Well, I'm glad it's working for you with no loss of form or functionality. If you were willing, at your leisure, could you try a couple more things to help me pinpoint the issue?

                                          1. It looks like I'm only using one of the fonts in that "handwritten" folder, which is brown_bag_lunch.ttf. Could you try deleting one or the other, and tell me what happens?

                                          2. I would be interest to know if the mere presence of the font is the issue, of it's only when it's loaded. If you could find...

                                          ...[Your Community Folder]\bksq-aircraft-commander114\html_ui\Pages\VLivery\Liveries\Registration\bksq_key_registration.css

                                          ...and replace the following line:

                                          src: url("/Pages/VCockpit/Instruments/Shared/Fonts/Handwritten/brown_bag_lunch.ttf") format("truetype");

                                          with this line...

                                          src: url("/Pages/VCockpit/Instruments/Shared/Fonts/DotMatrixFonts/5by7Mono.ttf") format("truetype");

                                          That would tell us something interesting.

                                          I think that's all the testing that can be done, but that should give me enough to go on.

                                          Thank you again so much, and let me know if you ever need anything else from me!

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                                          @Black-Square I can do that for sure. Just away from sim now but will do it ASAP for you.

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