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Possible GTN650 integration?

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  • Black SquareB Offline
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    Ah. You should be able to solve that too by adding these sections to all the panel.XML's. I might not have that 100% correct, but give it a try.

    	<Instrument>
    		<Name>GTN650_INT</Name>
    		<ComIndex>1</ComIndex>
    		<NavIndex>1</NavIndex>
    		<Electric>
    			<Simvar name="CIRCUIT ON:135" unit="Boolean"/>
    		</Electric>
    	</Instrument>
    
    	<Instrument>
    		<Name>GTN650_INT</Name>
    		<ComIndex>2</ComIndex>
    		<NavIndex>2</NavIndex>
    		<Electric>
    			<Simvar name="CIRCUIT ON:135" unit="Boolean"/>
    		</Electric>
    	</Instrument>
    

    I will also try to fix the "avionics switch" problem. I've fixed that in other aircraft, but I guess it never made it to Starship. Often, hardware will still fight with those events.

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      I added those sections to the panel.xmls but then something was preventing livery selection (weird), so I took them out. On the plus side, the code snippet to have the avionics master track the copilot avionics switch works, so the GTN power behaves the same as the GNS.

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        I'll have the avionics switch fixed for you in the next update too. Did you rebuild the Layout.json after making those changes, if you're testing in MSFS 2024? That might have caused the livery problem.

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          Did you observe a loss of the flight plan when the Power goes off and on aswell as in the GNS430?

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            @Black-Square I did rebuild the layout file. I'll hold off on publishing this until after your update, so we don't inadvertently step on each other's work.

            @Dingle no loss of flight plan in the GTN on power cycle or switching between FMS/GNS.

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              Did you observe a loss of the flight plan when the Power goes off and on aswell as in the GNS430?

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              @Dingle
              @Black-Square

              I have the same issue with the standard GNS. I wanted to try to utilize a hybrid system, switching to the GNS for RNAVS, but whenever I change the fd source to GNS it restarts and deletes all the inputs. Please let me know if you found a solution to this! Otherwise phenomenal aircraft!

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                @steveonatorer I don't have a solution, nor an idea if it can be fixed. But it would be very cool of it kept the input.

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                  #33

                  The GTN650 mod is working well in Starship version 1.1 in both 2020 and 2024. Barring any issues, it will be released on flightsim.to following FSExpo on Monday 30 June.

                  I don't have image posting privileges but here's a link to a preview pic: https://i.postimg.cc/xTgfRpJq/Starship-GTN650.png

                  You will also need to have the following folders installed in your Community folder:

                  • PMS50 GTN750: "pms50-instrument-gtn750" from https://pms50.com/msfs/
                  • JayDee's GTN750 mod: "ZZZ JD 00 GTN750 MAIN MOD 2.3 - PMS FIX" from  https://flightsim.to/file/13415/jds-gtn750-on-gns530-mod
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                    Jan Nek
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                    #34

                    Cool, thank you.

                    Regards Janek

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                      SebAvi
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                      #35

                      Hello, next will be perfect with TDS650 integration if it is possible please

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                        Hello, next will be perfect with TDS650 integration if it is possible please

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                        MarkS
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                        @SebAvi sorry, I don't own the TDS unit, someone else will have to take that on.

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                          The GTN650 mod is working well in Starship version 1.1 in both 2020 and 2024. Barring any issues, it will be released on flightsim.to following FSExpo on Monday 30 June.

                          I don't have image posting privileges but here's a link to a preview pic: https://i.postimg.cc/xTgfRpJq/Starship-GTN650.png

                          You will also need to have the following folders installed in your Community folder:

                          • PMS50 GTN750: "pms50-instrument-gtn750" from https://pms50.com/msfs/
                          • JayDee's GTN750 mod: "ZZZ JD 00 GTN750 MAIN MOD 2.3 - PMS FIX" from  https://flightsim.to/file/13415/jds-gtn750-on-gns530-mod
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                          Rhinozherous
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                          @MarkS You are my Hero! I was already at the point of despair because it seems I just hate the WT GNS430 😁 (it is the first time I really had to deal with it). Cant wait for the release! Do you need a tester?

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                            @SebAvi sorry, I don't own the TDS unit, someone else will have to take that on.

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                            @MarkS thanks for info, for me defauld 430 is so bugged that alternatives will be great to have

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                              Drat, I spoke too soon. I've hit a snag, and it could be a show stopper. The GTN looks great but it won't couple to the autopilot in anything other than HDG mode. In NAV or APPR it just flies in circles. Investigating.

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                                Drat, I spoke too soon. I've hit a snag, and it could be a show stopper. The GTN looks great but it won't couple to the autopilot in anything other than HDG mode. In NAV or APPR it just flies in circles. Investigating.

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                                @MarkS said in Possible GTN650 integration?:

                                Drat, I spoke too soon. I've hit a snag, and it could be a show stopper. The GTN looks great but it won't couple to the autopilot in anything other than HDG mode. In NAV or APPR it just flies in circles. Investigating.

                                This sounds bad. I hope the problem is not that severe as it sounds. Wish you all the best!

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                                  Drat, I spoke too soon. I've hit a snag, and it could be a show stopper. The GTN looks great but it won't couple to the autopilot in anything other than HDG mode. In NAV or APPR it just flies in circles. Investigating.

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                                  #41

                                  @MarkS said in Possible GTN650 integration?:

                                  Drat, I spoke too soon. I've hit a snag, and it could be a show stopper. > The GTN looks great but it won't couple to the autopilot in anything other than HDG mode. In NAV or APPR it just flies in circles. Investigating.

                                  That's what happened to me when I was hotswapping the GTN in the Dukes. Maybe that helps you.

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                                    @MarkS Would you be able to summerize the steps you did to get you so far? I would really like to play with that stuff too and do not really know where to start. I looked at JayDees mod and I got it to work that in the virtual file tree the panel.cfgs are overloaded, but it kept showing the GNS430. Can you point me at what i am missing?

                                    That is what I put in the mod panel.cfg:

                                    [VCockpit16]
                                    size_mm                = 960,702
                                    pixel_size            = 960,702
                                    texture                = GNS530
                                    htmlgauge00=NavSystems/JD_GTN650_GNS430/JD_GTN650_GNS430.html?index=1, 		0, 0, 960,702
                                    
                                    [VCockpit17]
                                    size_mm                = 960,702
                                    pixel_size            = 960,702
                                    texture                = GNS530
                                    htmlgauge00=NavSystems/JD_GTN650_GNS430/JD_GTN650_GNS430.html?index=1, 		0, 0, 960,702
                                    

                                    Probably I am missing some important steps.

                                    Cheers

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                                      @MarkS Would you be able to summerize the steps you did to get you so far? I would really like to play with that stuff too and do not really know where to start. I looked at JayDees mod and I got it to work that in the virtual file tree the panel.cfgs are overloaded, but it kept showing the GNS430. Can you point me at what i am missing?

                                      That is what I put in the mod panel.cfg:

                                      [VCockpit16]
                                      size_mm                = 960,702
                                      pixel_size            = 960,702
                                      texture                = GNS530
                                      htmlgauge00=NavSystems/JD_GTN650_GNS430/JD_GTN650_GNS430.html?index=1, 		0, 0, 960,702
                                      
                                      [VCockpit17]
                                      size_mm                = 960,702
                                      pixel_size            = 960,702
                                      texture                = GNS530
                                      htmlgauge00=NavSystems/JD_GTN650_GNS430/JD_GTN650_GNS430.html?index=1, 		0, 0, 960,702
                                      

                                      Probably I am missing some important steps.

                                      Cheers

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                                      wrote last edited by MarkS
                                      #43

                                      @Dingle you need to keep the original texture names, as below. The dimensions you have are proportioned for a 530 bezel, for the 430 you want 700 x 380.

                                      I found that there are many changes to the CDU Javascript code between 1.0 and 1.1, and I suspect the contortions poor Nick had to go through to work around the default autopilot anomolies are causing the disconnect with the GTN650.

                                      [VCockpit16]
                                      size_mm				= 700,380
                                      pixel_size			= 700,380
                                      texture				= $GNS430Screen_ApEnabled
                                      htmlgauge00=NavSystems/JD_GTN650_GNS430/JD_GTN650_GNS430.html?Index=1, 0, 0, 700,380
                                      
                                      [VCockpit17]
                                      size_mm				= 700,380
                                      pixel_size			= 700,380
                                      texture				= $GNS430Screen_ApDisabled
                                      htmlgauge00=NavSystems/JD_GTN650_GNS430/JD_GTN650_GNS430.html?Index=2, 0, 0, 700,380
                                      
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                                        @MarkS Great, thanks. So what you are saying is that changing the panel.cfg and adding jaydees Module should actually do the Trick. Or anything else required. As soon the gtn650 would show I could use Events to Power it on, right?

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                                          @MarkS Great, thanks. So what you are saying is that changing the panel.cfg and adding jaydees Module should actually do the Trick. Or anything else required. As soon the gtn650 would show I could use Events to Power it on, right?

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                                          @Dingle Yes, the PMS GTN add-on, Jaydee's mod, and the panel.cfg edit are usually all you need. Sometimes, as was the case with 1.0, you need to turn on the avionics master if the plane isn't doing it, but that's fixed in 1.1

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