2024 ND + GNLU Blank Screens

Godwisper

I gave up and bought this morning. Hope it gets fixed soon :/

Worked only twice and while on the runway. Tried cold and dark and again nothing neither on runway. If developers got this working is it an incompatible third party app that is conflicting ? I don’t think update came out without checking as aircraft is unflyable on ms2024 as this is not a GA aircraft :)

I removed msfs2020 as I fly only in VR and it is working well with new sim and the PCL.

mhron

@BPFonteyn That's not it because the EFIS switches turn on PFD + ND but with this issue PFD works while ND doesn't. Plus both FMC's are blank.

Godwisper

I think it is the navigraph update that messes the panels. With the nav cycle uninstalled the panels working well.

Sergekoko

I am going to try that here in a few, because during my messing around after the install it was working and then once i updated navigraph thinking it was all good it stopped working, maybe you are right

Martyn

Thanks for the continued feedback. We'd be very interested to hear if reverting to the navigation data included with the product fixes the issue for you.

Sergekoko

@Martyn Started up a flight cold and dark on the ramp, powered aircraft on, no FMC. Uninstalled navigraph airac data through navigraphhub under 24 tab, relaunched simulator, power on aircraft, FMC came on at appropriate time.

Here is the kicker though, i exited, reinstalled the airac, repeated the process and the FMC came on.
I would call that inconclusive for now.

brammy

I am running into this as well. Updating Navigraph, no FMS. Remove Navigraph fro Hub, the FMS works. However, unlike Serge, reinstalling Navigraph gave me a blank FMS.

I was trying to fly out of Paro (VQPR) and without Navigraph it doesn't seem to have it in the database.

MSFS24 really does seem to have a lot of little weird issues interacting with some things.

Sergekoko

@brammy i am going to load up another flight later, and see if it does what yours did, i have a sneaky suspicion that it was a fluke it loaded this time

Jackmo94

@Martyn I've done some tests and was able to replicate the above.

Fresh install with shipped NavData everything works.
Switch to Navigraph and the Nav displays and FMC don't load.
Revert back to shipped data and it's all good.
Reinstall NavData from hub and they don't load again
Deleted the files from the WASM folder except the work folder, when reloading a flight cold and dark from a gate everything came to life as expected with the updated NavData
Quit to desktop and reload the sim to the same state, cold & dark at a gate no longer working
Repeated no. 5 and it's working

Sergekoko

Is the WASM folder the one where we place our flightplan files?

Jackmo94

@Sergekoko C:\Users\XXXXX\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024\WASM\MSFS2020\justflight-aircraft-rj

for Steam edition

Sergekoko

Gotcha, thank you, i got the MS version this time but i know how to find that one if i need to i think

Jackmo94

@Sergekoko It'll be interesting to hear if this also works for you or if it's complete fluke it worked for me

mhron

The same finding here. Uninstalling Navigraph data for RJ, uninstalling the RJ, deleting the WASM folder and reinstalling the RJ (without installing Navigraph data) solved the problem for me.

Carisma

The only thing that seems to be working for me is to uninstall the Navigraph data. I tried everything in the post, WASM delete, starting in the other airframe first. Sadly seems the database update just breaks it regardless

Martyn

Thanks for the confirmations. We'll be in touch with the Navigraph team to resolve this ASAP.

BBoaBrim

Have to say, I’m really impressed with how JF are engaging with the community here.

jdoerning

JF are an awesome group of developers, my favorite by a country mile. Top notch customer service with these folks, they have always been a proactive group and it is so refreshing, thank you.

BBetty

Same issue for me. Uninstalled the nav data. Deleted the WASM folder. Reinstalled the product. This rectified the issue. For me I could not use the suggested troubleshooting from Martyn, it did not work. Only the above method resolved the issue.

Martyn

We've now confirmed the cause:

We have also been made aware of a similar issue that is caused by updating the RJ's navdata via the Navigraph Hub app. If the navdata is updated to the latest AIRAC cycle in the Navigraph Hub app, this can cause the ND and GNLU-910A FMS displays to remain blank after loading into the aircraft. Our current recommendation is to remove the latest AIRAC cycle in the Navigraph Hub app, and then reinstall the RJ Professional (MSFS 2024). This will allow you to use the RJ with the default AIRAC 2401 navdata that is included with the product. We are in contact with Navigraph to investigate this further.

Thanks to everyone who helped with this.