Pitch "jerks"
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@gstrub Yes it does seem to do this, usually above trees on final, I just put it down to low level turbulance, will have to try it on a field with a clear approach.
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@batfink when there are no trees it is smooth. But the amount of low level turbulence over trees is unrealistic given my limited experience in the PA28.
I was working on a trim wheel device and a had a bug where it would get the wrong polarity and flip the trim from X up to X down or vice versa (via SimConnect). What I noticed when this happened was that the airplane itself changed pitch instantly and dramatically. So this could possibly be used as a repro case to help validate a solution.
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Hi all,
We’ll shortly be sending a new FDE update to anyone that’s got in touch about helping us to test them. Please send me a DM if you’d like to get involved too.
Thanks,
Martyn@martyn said in Pitch "jerks":
Hi all,
We’ll shortly be sending a new FDE update to anyone that’s got in touch about helping us to test them. Please send me a DM if you’d like to get involved too.
Thanks,
MartynHi, what about this update???
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Not going to lie, i love(ed) the Arrows, but the updates to these planes are downright glacial at this rate. And yes i have tested the updates and send feedback.
I am honestly getting quite tired of the waiting on updates on these planes. These are not cheap planes. I honestly believe we deserve to wait less then what, at least 8 months! , and going.I see al this news about incomming planes, but if the ones already out aren't updated in a reasonable amount of time i honestly won't buy those new planes. I won't live forever and waiting over half a year on an update is not alright.
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Still waiting.....
I am getting tired of this. Safe to say i want them fixed but i will not be buying JF inhouse again.
I have never had to first complain a lot to even get it aknowledged, then help test as a paying customer and even then wait for creeping up to a year as blame was pointed to Asobo and now WT.Of all JF planes i own, only the 146 is working well and even that one fishtails like silly over mountains in live weather or nearly tips over on even some of the gentlest turns.
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Still waiting.....
I am getting tired of this. Safe to say i want them fixed but i will not be buying JF inhouse again.
I have never had to first complain a lot to even get it aknowledged, then help test as a paying customer and even then wait for creeping up to a year as blame was pointed to Asobo and now WT.Of all JF planes i own, only the 146 is working well and even that one fishtails like silly over mountains in live weather or nearly tips over on even some of the gentlest turns.
@cgnoorloos I'd suggest you take your frustrations out on Asobo - I currently have several unanswered questions which are flight-model specific on the DevSupport forum, some of them dating back almost a year and which have been bumped multiple times.
There appears to be little in the way of flight model support despite claims to the contrary, but plenty of changes implimented which we are supposed to just understand. It's almost as if they don't know the answers themselves.
Sorry for the short post, I have deleted multiple rewrites of it because they sound overly critical, but that's where we are at.
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@cgnoorloos I'd suggest you take your frustrations out on Asobo - I currently have several unanswered questions which are flight-model specific on the DevSupport forum, some of them dating back almost a year and which have been bumped multiple times.
There appears to be little in the way of flight model support despite claims to the contrary, but plenty of changes implimented which we are supposed to just understand. It's almost as if they don't know the answers themselves.
Sorry for the short post, I have deleted multiple rewrites of it because they sound overly critical, but that's where we are at.
@delta558
Thanks for the reply. Sorry but that does not cut it. I buy the planes from you and not Asobo.
The other 3rd party planes i own do not have the problems the JF planes have. The C337 did have it for a while but has since been fixed.If other 3rd party devs can figure it out, then i don't think it is okey for you to just point a finger at Asobo. The F4U, Kodiak, Beachcraft, Fox 2, C337 and Islander to name my most other flown planes, they all fly well without the pitchjerk issue and they sure have had their fixes underway when needed.
Specially the Kodiak.Even the 146 fishtails a lot still. Something the DC-6 also did, and well, that one even as a bit of a backburner plane for PMDG is fixed, 146 as of yet, not so much.
Sorry but not sorry. I see a lot of talk about new planes, and i as a costommer feel those get the time and money while the already sold planes are just well, maybe worked on in lunch breaks. Not saying this is how it is, it is just what it feels like.
You could at least have pushed out some of the fixes we tested for you since some did positively affect the FM. But it's always "after the next update"
Kind of you to try and not be overly critical, but after a year of waiting i am being critical, i payed good money for planes that just don't get fixed, while others do.
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@delta558
Thanks for the reply. Sorry but that does not cut it. I buy the planes from you and not Asobo.
The other 3rd party planes i own do not have the problems the JF planes have. The C337 did have it for a while but has since been fixed.If other 3rd party devs can figure it out, then i don't think it is okey for you to just point a finger at Asobo. The F4U, Kodiak, Beachcraft, Fox 2, C337 and Islander to name my most other flown planes, they all fly well without the pitchjerk issue and they sure have had their fixes underway when needed.
Specially the Kodiak.Even the 146 fishtails a lot still. Something the DC-6 also did, and well, that one even as a bit of a backburner plane for PMDG is fixed, 146 as of yet, not so much.
Sorry but not sorry. I see a lot of talk about new planes, and i as a costommer feel those get the time and money while the already sold planes are just well, maybe worked on in lunch breaks. Not saying this is how it is, it is just what it feels like.
You could at least have pushed out some of the fixes we tested for you since some did positively affect the FM. But it's always "after the next update"
Kind of you to try and not be overly critical, but after a year of waiting i am being critical, i payed good money for planes that just don't get fixed, while others do.
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@cgnoorloos said in Pitch "jerks":
Of all JF planes i own, only the 146 is working well and even that one fishtails like silly over mountains in live weather or nearly tips over on even some of the gentlest turns.
I'm not aware of any flight model issues with the 146 so please be sure to submit a support ticket so we can gather more information on that and address it ASAP.
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With the help of the Working Title team we have finally found a solution to the GNS compatibility issues that were holding up the release of our updates for the PA28s (Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II). We're now finishing off some final bits of work on those with the aim of releasing them next week. We'll be sharing the change logs shortly.
Thanks again for your patience with these updates.
Martyn - Just Flight
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@cgnoorloos said in Pitch "jerks":
Of all JF planes i own, only the 146 is working well and even that one fishtails like silly over mountains in live weather or nearly tips over on even some of the gentlest turns.
I'm not aware of any flight model issues with the 146 so please be sure to submit a support ticket so we can gather more information on that and address it ASAP.
@martyn Pretty sure it is tied to this issue already submitted.
https://community.justflight.com/topic/4369/crosswind-effects-on-landing-and-take-off
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A quick message to say that we'll be finishing off release candidate testing over the weekend, ahead of a release of the PA28 Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II updates next week.
The updates will also be sent to the MS Marketplace team for processing, both for PC and Xbox.
Martyn - Just Flight
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A quick message to say that we'll be finishing off release candidate testing over the weekend, ahead of a release of the PA28 Arrow III, Turbo Arrow III/IV and Warrior II updates next week.
The updates will also be sent to the MS Marketplace team for processing, both for PC and Xbox.
Martyn - Just Flight
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After some further tweaking I'm happy to report that the PA28 updates are now being processed for release, with release currently planned for Monday. The final change log can be found here: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-5-released-edited-20-3-23
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After some further tweaking I'm happy to report that the PA28 updates are now being processed for release, with release currently planned for Monday. The final change log can be found here: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-5-released-edited-20-3-23
@martyn Wooh, finally! It's actually happening.
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After some further tweaking I'm happy to report that the PA28 updates are now being processed for release, with release currently planned for Monday. The final change log can be found here: https://community.justflight.com/topic/1806/update-change-logs-v0-10-5-released-edited-20-3-23
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@martyn Hi Martyn, when can we expect this update in the marketplace? I know Asobo was going to make that process much quicker, but I don't know if they have actually rolled that out yet.
@ajbarber Answering on behalf of Martyn. It should be this Thursday. Was going to be last week but a couple of last minute issues were unearthed. New submissions heading to Microsoft later today so unless something untoward crops up then Thursday should be the day!
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@ajbarber Answering on behalf of Martyn. It should be this Thursday. Was going to be last week but a couple of last minute issues were unearthed. New submissions heading to Microsoft later today so unless something untoward crops up then Thursday should be the day!
@voice-of-reason That's great, thanks for the quick response!
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@voice-of-reason That's great, thanks for the quick response!
