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Which variables can I use to read your custom variables Black Square?

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  • toby23T Offline
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    wrote last edited by toby23
    #1

    I am working on a Stream Deck profile for the Starship, similar to my other profiles for the P180 and Comanche.

    I can affect the ALT and V/S dials using the custom HVars such as H:ALT_AltitudeSelectKnob_Dec_1 but how can I read them? Normally I would use a default Asobo AVar such as AUTOPILOT AIRSPEED HOLD, Bool to read if, for example, IAS mode is active.

    What are the connected variables for the following custom HVars?

    • MSP_Airspeed_1
    • MSP_Descend_1
    • MSP_FlightDirectorOff_1

    Thank you

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    • toby23T Offline
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      #2

      The image below shows an example from another profile that uses default Asobo variables.
      I need to 'read' the values to be able to display them in the row where the green X is.

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        Black Square
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        L:bksq_AltitudePreselect_1, for altitude, L:bksq_VerticalSpeedPreselect_1 for vertical speed, and then the rest are the SimVars that you're used to, so...

        A:AUTOPILOT HEADING LOCK
        A:AUTOPILOT MAX BANK > 22
        A:AUTOPILOT VERTICAL HOLD
        A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT LEVEL CHANGE
        A:AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK
        A:AUTOPILOT APPROACH HOLD
        A:AUTOPILOT NAV1 LOCK
        A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT DIRECTOR ACTIVE
        A:AUTOPILOT MASTER
        A:AUTOPILOT AIRSPEED HOLD

        There are a few more nuances that I could help you with, but that should be enough to get you started. Let me know if you need anything else!

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          • Black SquareB Black Square

            L:bksq_AltitudePreselect_1, for altitude, L:bksq_VerticalSpeedPreselect_1 for vertical speed, and then the rest are the SimVars that you're used to, so...

            A:AUTOPILOT HEADING LOCK
            A:AUTOPILOT MAX BANK > 22
            A:AUTOPILOT VERTICAL HOLD
            A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT LEVEL CHANGE
            A:AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK
            A:AUTOPILOT APPROACH HOLD
            A:AUTOPILOT NAV1 LOCK
            A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT DIRECTOR ACTIVE
            A:AUTOPILOT MASTER
            A:AUTOPILOT AIRSPEED HOLD

            There are a few more nuances that I could help you with, but that should be enough to get you started. Let me know if you need anything else!

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            #5

            @Black-Square - Thank you, is this the correct assignment for Autopilot buttons?

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            • Black SquareB Offline
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              Black Square
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              Ok, here come the nuanced ones straight from the RPN. The rest are as you've listed.

              Flight Director Off:
              (A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT DIRECTOR ACTIVE, bool) (A:AUTOPILOT MASTER, bool) ! and

              IAS Profile:
              (A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT LEVEL CHANGE, bool) (L:var_iasHoldMode, bool) ! and (A:INDICATED ALTITUDE:1, FEET) 250 - (A:AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK VAR:1, FEET) < and

              Descend:
              (A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT LEVEL CHANGE, bool) (L:var_iasHoldMode, bool) ! and (A:INDICATED ALTITUDE:1, FEET) 250 + (A:AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK VAR:1, FEET) < and

              Airspeed hold:
              (A:AUTOPILOT AIRSPEED HOLD, bool)
              (A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT LEVEL CHANGE, bool) (L:var_iasHoldMode, bool) and
              or

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              • toby23T Offline
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                I really appreciate you sharing these variables, thank you.

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                • Black SquareB Offline
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                  Black Square
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                  Of course! Let me know what else I can do for you!

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                      I cannot find a way to read if IAS or DES mode is active using SimVars.

                      I am reading A:AUTOPILOT FLIGHT LEVEL CHANGE, Bool to turn the 'green light' on for either the IAS or DES switch. Currently it turns both lights on when either mode is activated.

                      How can I 'read' which mode is active?

                      I can use RPN scripts but I cannot write them myself.

                      Thank you

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                        Black Square
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                        That's what the (A:INDICATED ALTITUDE:1, FEET) 250 - (A:AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK VAR:1, FEET) < and... sections of the code above is meant to do. It simply looks at whether the preselected altitude is commanding a climb or descent from the current altitude.

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                          #12

                          I thought so but adding it as a Script to the entry field doesn't work and I cannot figure out why. I use something similar to detect if 100 or 1000 ft is selected for the altitude dial in another profile, that uses this script.

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                          but if I use your RPN code, it doesn't detect between IAS (IASP) or DES.

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                          I will ask on the AAO forum and see if Lorby can help too. Thank you

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                            @Black-Square It is slowly coming together...

                            One question for you, how have you configured the V/S readout?

                            In the image below, 2.1 shows the A:Var AUTOPILOT VERTICAL HOLD VAR, Feet/minute
                            BUT this is only correctly displayed when V/S mode is active.

                            In reverse, when the ALT mode is active, the ALT readout does not change on the Stream Deck profile but it does in the sim.

                            Q. When I turn the dial, I can see the VSpeed change in the sim cockpit but the correct value is ONLY displayed on the Stream Deck when V/S mode is active, why?

                            N.B.The Starship is the only aircraft where my profiles don't seem to work 'normally'.

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                              Black Square
                              Black Square Developer
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                              For both of them, you could try this technique:

                              Vertical Speed Select:

                              (A:AUTOPILOT VERTICAL HOLD, bool) if{
                                  (AUTOPILOT VERTICAL HOLD VAR:1, feet per minute)
                              }
                              els{
                                  (L:bksq_VerticalSpeedPreselect_1, feet per minute)
                              }
                              

                              Altitude Select:

                              (A:AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK, bool) if{
                                  (AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK VAR:1, feet)
                              }
                              els{
                                  (L:bksq_AltitudePreselect_1, feet)
                              }
                              

                              I'm not sure why that should be necessary for the selected altitude, but if it works, it works.

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                                I'm also looking into getting data out of the starship, but for a different purpose: I want to use the WinWing MCDU or even a self-made CDU (the button-layout transfer from the MCDU to the Starship-CDU is way less intuitive than I thought) to interact with the starship CDU.
                                Best case, this includes the display of the Starship CDU being mirrored on the device.
                                I am using Mobiflight for this, so I need the data that is on screen in plain text form, including color information.

                                Is there any way to get that data? Or does it require an update of the Starship?

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                                • S SaabFAN86

                                  I'm also looking into getting data out of the starship, but for a different purpose: I want to use the WinWing MCDU or even a self-made CDU (the button-layout transfer from the MCDU to the Starship-CDU is way less intuitive than I thought) to interact with the starship CDU.
                                  Best case, this includes the display of the Starship CDU being mirrored on the device.
                                  I am using Mobiflight for this, so I need the data that is on screen in plain text form, including color information.

                                  Is there any way to get that data? Or does it require an update of the Starship?

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                                  Black Square
                                  Black Square Developer
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                                  @SaabFAN86 I have no idea what format that text and color information is supposed to be presented in, nor how to get it to you. Can you give me an idea of how these other units work? I suspect this is not something that's possible from the JavaScript context, but I will do it if it's remotely possible, or send you a custom solution if it's not something I want to include for all users.

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                                  • Black SquareB Black Square

                                    For both of them, you could try this technique:

                                    Vertical Speed Select:

                                    (A:AUTOPILOT VERTICAL HOLD, bool) if{
                                        (AUTOPILOT VERTICAL HOLD VAR:1, feet per minute)
                                    }
                                    els{
                                        (L:bksq_VerticalSpeedPreselect_1, feet per minute)
                                    }
                                    

                                    Altitude Select:

                                    (A:AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK, bool) if{
                                        (AUTOPILOT ALTITUDE LOCK VAR:1, feet)
                                    }
                                    els{
                                        (L:bksq_AltitudePreselect_1, feet)
                                    }
                                    

                                    I'm not sure why that should be necessary for the selected altitude, but if it works, it works.

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                                    wrote last edited by toby23
                                    #17

                                    @Black-Square Thank you so much for sharing this code.
                                    I still couldn't get this to work as as a script in Stream Deck software but I was able to get both dial readouts populated using the LVars (as you originally suggested). Thank you.

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