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  • Black SquareB Black Square

    I knew one of my dedicated users would get to creating one soon enough! Please let me know if I can answer any questions or supply any data for you!

    The performance numbers that appear in my manual are directly from the POH, which has incredibly detailed tables. A lot of people have been asking for this all over the internet, so anything I can do to create the best Simbrief Profile, please let me know! It would be delightful to have one in good shape by release day.

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    Outermarker
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    @Black-Square There is a SimBrief category in the Navigraph Forum where users can request native SimBrief profiles. The easiest option for you would probably be to contact Navigraph directly, I'm sure they would be willing to create one if you can provide the necessary performance data they require.

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      This is a link to the Simbrief forum - Please vote the post up, maybe it helps getting attention for a profile.

      https://forum.navigraph.com/t/beechcraft-starship-2000a-simbrief-profile/19965/1

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        You might want to cross-post this in MSFS Forums

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        • Black SquareB Black Square

          I knew one of my dedicated users would get to creating one soon enough! Please let me know if I can answer any questions or supply any data for you!

          The performance numbers that appear in my manual are directly from the POH, which has incredibly detailed tables. A lot of people have been asking for this all over the internet, so anything I can do to create the best Simbrief Profile, please let me know! It would be delightful to have one in good shape by release day.

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          Helix
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          @Black-Square Hello sir can you let us know what time on Thursday the starship will be released?πŸ™

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            @Black-Square Hello sir can you let us know what time on Thursday the starship will be released?πŸ™

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            @Helix

            We don't have a time, but it will be announced on the Just Flight website and you can sign up to be notified of release here: https://www.justflight.com/email-when-available?product=black-square-starship

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              @Helix

              We don't have a time, but it will be announced on the Just Flight website and you can sign up to be notified of release here: https://www.justflight.com/email-when-available?product=black-square-starship

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              Helix
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              @Derek ok thanks i understand and am signed up just trying to figure out if i need to take a sick day tomorrow 🫣🀫

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              • DrZGardD DrZGard

                I have created a Simbrief profile for the Starship basing it on the Piaggio P180 profile. I used data from the Starship promotional material I had from when my father was looking at purchasing one in the 90's. You can find it here: https://dispatch.simbrief.com/airframes/share/560910_1750138737142

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                @DrZGard thanks for sharing. Is the starship really rnp capable? Are you sure the ICAO Equipment and PBN capabilities are correct? I think it would need a RAIM system for this?

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                  @DrZGard thanks for sharing. Is the starship really rnp capable? Are you sure the ICAO Equipment and PBN capabilities are correct? I think it would need a RAIM system for this?

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                  All depends on how one is going to fly it I suppose. The equipment selection implies the GPS is going to do a lot of heavy lifting (you're not going to get that LPV otherwise I'm pretty sure), and for PBN I would probably replace every instance of GNSS with DME/DME and/or LORAN and ditch the RNP with baro-VNAV altogether.

                  At least how I'm going to fly it.

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                    All depends on how one is going to fly it I suppose. The equipment selection implies the GPS is going to do a lot of heavy lifting (you're not going to get that LPV otherwise I'm pretty sure), and for PBN I would probably replace every instance of GNSS with DME/DME and/or LORAN and ditch the RNP with baro-VNAV altogether.

                    At least how I'm going to fly it.

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                    DrZGard
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                    @jmarkows The Black Square Starship has the Garmin GNS430W installed in the console as does one of the real world aircraft which in MSFS does give further capability. (In MSFS you can fly procedures that the real world unit doesn't have available!).

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                      I'm very aware.

                      I'm saying that those who don't wish to use it will likely want to tweak the equipment codes.

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                        Dingle
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                        I see, thanks for elaborating. I noticed ILS is not checked though.

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                          hughesj2
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                          From Simbrief release notes
                          2025.48
                          Release Date: 18 Jun 2025
                          FeatureAdded new aircraft profile: Starship 2000A

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                            Dingle
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                            @Black-Square the above posted profile looks pretty good to me. Can you comment on the selection of aircraft capabilities. Currently i think it should be something along the lines as what's shown here (remove rnp without gns430, and gps without gps enabled in fms)

                            PBN:
                            Enabled Indicator Description
                            Y A1 RNAV 10 (RNP 10)
                            N B1 RNAV 5, all permitted sensors
                            Y B2 RNAV 5, GNSS
                            Y B3 RNAV 5, DME/DME
                            Y B4 RNAV 5, VOR/DME
                            N B5 RNAV 5, INS OR IRS
                            N B6 RNAV 5, LORAN
                            N C1 RNAV 2, all permitted sensors
                            Y C2 RNAV 2, GNSS
                            Y C3 RNAV 2, DME/DME
                            N C4 RNAV 2, DME/DME/IRU
                            N D1 RNAV 1, all permitted sensors
                            Y D2 RNAV 1, GNSS
                            Y D3 RNAV 1, DME/DME
                            N D4 RNAV 1, DME/DME/IRU
                            Y L1 RNP 4
                            N O1 RNP 1, all permitted sensors
                            Y O2 RNP 1, GNSS
                            N O3 RNP 1, DME/DME
                            N O4 RNP 1, DME/DME/IRU
                            N S1 RNP APCH
                            Y S2 RNP APCH with baro-VNAV
                            N T1 RNP AR APCH with RF
                            N T2 RNP AR APCH without RF

                            Navigation and communication:
                            Enabled Indicator Description
                            N N No Equipment
                            N S Standard Equipment (VHF, VOR, ILS)
                            N A GBAS Landing System
                            Y B LPV (APV with SBAS)
                            N C LORAN C
                            Y D DME (Distance Measuring Equipment)
                            N E1 FMC WPR ACARS
                            N E2 D-FIS ACARS
                            N E3 PDC ACARS
                            Y F ADF (Automatic Direction Finder)
                            Y G GNSS (Satellite Navigation)
                            N H HF (High Frequency Radio)
                            N I INS (Inertial Navigation System)
                            N J1 CPDLC ATN VDL Mode 2
                            N J2 CPDLC FANS 1/A HFDL
                            N J3 CPDLC FANS 1/A VDL Mode A/0
                            N J4 CPDLC FANS 1/A VDL Mode 2
                            N J5 CPDLC FANS 1/A SATCOM (INMARSAT)
                            N J6 CPDLC FANS 1/A SATCOM (MTSAT)
                            N J7 CPDLC FANS 1/A SATCOM (Iridium)
                            N K MLS (Microwave Landing System)
                            Y L ILS (Instrument Landing System)
                            N M1 ATC SATVOICE (INMARSAT)
                            N M2 ATC SATVOICE (MTSAT)
                            Y M3 ATC SATVOICE (Iridium)

                            Transponder:
                            Enabled Indicator Description
                            N N No Transponder
                            N A Mode A
                            N C Mode A and Mode C
                            N E Mode S, aircraft ident, pressure altitude, extended squitter
                            N H Mode S, aircraft ident, pressure altitude, enhanced surveillance
                            N I Mode S, aircraft ident, no pressure altitude
                            Y L Mode S, aircraft ident, pressure altitude, extended squitter
                            N P Mode S, no aircraft ident, pressure altitude
                            N S Mode S, aircraft ident, pressure altitude
                            N X Mode S, no aircraft ident, no pressure altitude
                            Y B1 ADS-B with dedicated 1090 MHz Out
                            N B2 ADS-B with dedicated 1090 MHz Out and In
                            N U1 ADS-B Out capability using UAT
                            N U2 ADS-B Out and In capability using UAT
                            N V1 ADS-B Out capability using VDL Mode 4
                            N V2 ADS-B Out and In capability using VDL Mode 4
                            N D1 ADS-C with FANS 1/A capabilities
                            N G1 ADS-C with ATN capabilities

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                              Navigraph Devs have officially added in the starship profile

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                              • H Helix

                                @Derek ok thanks i understand and am signed up just trying to figure out if i need to take a sick day tomorrow 🫣🀫

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                                Marionettework
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                                @Helix said in Simbrief profile for Starship:

                                @Derek ok thanks i understand and am signed up just trying to figure out if i need to take a sick day tomorrow 🫣🀫

                                I feel something coming on too... definitely some kind of virus going on here, better isolate.

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                                  I have looked into the PBN codes and think that (without the buggy GNS430 and installed GNSS retrofit) the PBN codes should be: A1B2B3B4C2C3S1

                                  I skipped the D ones to exclude the RNAV SID / STAR capability.

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                                    jmarkows
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                                    This is the Simbrief profile I put together for flying without the GNS system onboard. Correctly shows up as /Z on VATSIM using ye olde FAA equipment code:

                                    https://dispatch.simbrief.com/airframes/share/eyJiYXNldHlwZSI6IlNUQVIiLCJpY2FvIjoiU1RBUiIsInJlZyI6Ik4yMDAwQSIsImZpbiI6IjAwMSIsInNlbGNhbCI6IiIsImhleGNvZGUiOiIiLCJwbGFuZm9ybWF0IjoiIiwiZmxpZ2h0cnVsZXMiOiIiLCJmbGlnaHR0eXBlIjoiIiwicGxhbnVuaXRzIjoiIiwiYWx0bnNhZHZfcmFkaXVzIjoiMjU5IiwiYWx0bnNhZHZfdW5pdHNfcnd5IjoiZnQiLCJhbHRuc2Fkdl9yd3kiOiI0OTAwIiwibmFtZSI6IlN0YXJzaGlwIDIwMDBBIiwiZW5naW5lcyI6IlBUNkEtNjdBIiwiY29tbWVudHMiOiIiLCJwZXIiOiJCIiwiY2F0IjoiTCIsImV0b3BzdGhyZXNob2xkIjoiNjAiLCJldG9wc3JhbmdlIjoiIiwiZXF1aXAiOiJTQ0RGSFJXWVoiLCJ0cmFuc3BvbmRlciI6IlMiLCJwYm4iOiJBMUIzQjRCNkMzRDMiLCJleHRyYXJtayI6IiIsIm1hbnVhbHJtayI6IiIsIndndHVuaXRzIjoiTEJTIiwibWF4cGF4IjoiNiIsInBheHdndCI6IjE3NSIsImJhZ3dndCI6IjU1Iiwib2V3IjoiMTAwODUiLCJtemZ3IjoiMTI2MDAiLCJtdG93IjoiMTQ5MDAiLCJtbHciOiIxMzY4MCIsIm1heGZ1ZWwiOiIzNzUyIiwibWF4Y2FyZ28iOiIiLCJjYXJnb21vZGUiOiIiLCJjb250cGN0IjoiIiwicmVzdnJ1bGUiOiIiLCJ0YXhpZnVlbCI6IiIsIm1pbmZvYiI6IiIsIm1pbmZvYl91bml0cyI6IndndCIsIm1pbmZvZCI6IiIsIm1pbmZvZF91bml0cyI6IndndCIsIm1lbGZ1ZWwiOiIiLCJtZWxmdWVsX3VuaXRzIjoid2d0IiwiYXRjZnVlbCI6IiIsImF0Y2Z1ZWxfdW5pdHMiOiJ3Z3QiLCJ3eHhmdWVsIjoiIiwid3h4ZnVlbF91bml0cyI6IndndCIsImFkZGVkZnVlbF9sYWJlbCI6ImV4dHJhIiwiYWRkZWRmdWVsIjoiIiwiYWRkZWRmdWVsX3VuaXRzIjoid2d0IiwidGFua2VyaW5nIjoiIiwidGFua2VyaW5nX3VuaXRzIjoid2d0IiwiZnVlbGZhY3RvciI6IlAwMCIsImNydWlzZW9mZnNldCI6IlAwMDAwIiwiY2VpbGluZyI6IjQxMDAwIiwiZGVmYXVsdGNydWlzZSI6IlJFQ01ELTE2MDAiLCJkZWZhdWx0Y2kiOiIiLCJkZWZhdWx0Y2xpbWIiOiIxNjAwLVJQTSIsImRlZmF1bHRkZXNjZW50IjoiMjAwMC1GUE0iLCJ0aHJ1c3RfdW5pdHMiOiJocCIsInRocnVzdCI6IjEyMDAiLCJmbGF0cmF0aW5nIjoiIn0-

                                    URL is a bit long but they encode everything into that gibberish. Better for posterity in case I ever tinker with it.

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                                      Word of warning for those who use SayIntentions or BeyondATC: none of your equipment filing is respected, you'll still get the dummies trying to shunt you on to RNP's you can't even see in the database.

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                                        Mad_X
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                                        Yes and no. Simbrief does respect the equipment filing. Removing D3 and D2 PBN codes simbrief does not plan any RNAV1 SID and STARs for you. And if you don’t have them in your flightplan beyond ATC will vector you.

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                                          Mad_X
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                                          https://dispatch.simbrief.com/airframes/share/20085_1759222532954

                                          I have added the remarks for SIDs and STARs. Also deselected D2 and D3. Starship has some RNP monitoring but is not capable of SIDs and STARs because they cannot be loaded from the on board system. Which is a regulatory necessity. Simbrief now does respect that selection and will not plan RNAV1 SIDs and STARs.

                                          However it can follow LNAV RNAV approaches and they are retrievable via the CDU hence PNB S1.
                                          I don’t know if the real plane can do that too and if it’s certified. @Black-Square Nick has to answer that one.

                                          Another thing that is debatable is PNB A1. I don’t know if the plane has the authorisation to fly over remote ar

                                          Note: all of the above is without the buggy GNS430 for which Nick is not responsible. But considering the GNSS retrofit.

                                          If you want to fly 1980 style I would recommend removing the PNB B2, C2 and S1. !IMG_0520.png IMG_0521.png

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