Black Square Updates for MSFS2024
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Long time lurker, first time poster. Let me second the above message about bringing these aircrafts to Xbox. They truly are a delight to fly.
I’m not a real life pilot, and I’m not the most knowledgeable about simulated aircrafts either. It’s why I stay away from airliners; I can follow a checklist and press a button, but if I don’t understand why I should press that button, then it’s much less interesting to me. This led to my hesitation of buying any Black Square products, even though I’ve only heard good things about them. I simply thought they were too advanced, for me to enjoy. I shouldn’t have worried. I bought the Dukes, and with the help of the well written manuals, that explain things so someone like me can understand them, and also the excellent tablet that visualizes the systems, I’m truly having the best experience. Thank you!
With regards to the GTN 750, there are multiple aircraft that technically support them, but with no way of actually downloading the GTN units to Xbox, that “support” is worth very little. The ideal situation would, of course, be, if they could be downloaded from the in-sim Marketplace, so they could receive updates as well. I haven’t followed any discussion why they aren’t available there, maybe it’s because they use a subscription based business model, and Microsoft wouldn’t get a cut out of that. Purely speculation on my part there.
Regardless, the inclusion of this unit with the Dukes is greatly appreciated. It really shows an understanding of the situation. Always with an attention to details. I can’t help to think why the KLN 90B wasn’t included as well, though, since this unit also can’t be downloaded on Xbox. Does the license not allow bundling of this unit perhaps?
Looking forward to the updated versions, though the Dukes already play nice in 2024. Eagerly awaiting the Professional series, as well. With regard to the Starship, that thing looks too advanced for me. But I trust Black Square to once again help me overcome the obstacles and provide an excellent learning and flying experience.
@ploodovic said in Black Square Updates for MSFS2024:
...with the help of the well written manuals, that explain things so someone like me can understand them, and also the excellent tablet that visualizes the systems...
This is music to my ears. Thank you so much for sharing this. I spend a tremendous amount of time on my manuals, and this is exactly why I do it. I refer to them as "a little ground school in a box" to fellow pilots. Unfortunately, I can't spend years writing them, so I know they could still be a lot better. I worry that maybe 1% of my users actually read the manual, but I hope that 1% get enough out of it to make up for the other 99%. The Starship is a passion project of mine, though, so I suspect that will be the best manual I ever write.
I'm ashamed to admit this, but the only reason the KLN90B is not included in the marketplace build is because I simply forgot to ask the developer if that was a possibility. He has since created a marketplace-ready version for me, and it will be included in the next update for the Dukes.
I would absolutely love to offer MSFS 2024 Marketplace versions of all my products, but I have recently been informed of some requirements that might be extremely onerous given my development pipeline. I have not fully explored the implications yet, but I suspect I will be morally obligated to comply so that they Dukes can be enjoyed by MSFS 2024 exclusive purchasers.
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@ploodovic said in Black Square Updates for MSFS2024:
...with the help of the well written manuals, that explain things so someone like me can understand them, and also the excellent tablet that visualizes the systems...
This is music to my ears. Thank you so much for sharing this. I spend a tremendous amount of time on my manuals, and this is exactly why I do it. I refer to them as "a little ground school in a box" to fellow pilots. Unfortunately, I can't spend years writing them, so I know they could still be a lot better. I worry that maybe 1% of my users actually read the manual, but I hope that 1% get enough out of it to make up for the other 99%. The Starship is a passion project of mine, though, so I suspect that will be the best manual I ever write.
I'm ashamed to admit this, but the only reason the KLN90B is not included in the marketplace build is because I simply forgot to ask the developer if that was a possibility. He has since created a marketplace-ready version for me, and it will be included in the next update for the Dukes.
I would absolutely love to offer MSFS 2024 Marketplace versions of all my products, but I have recently been informed of some requirements that might be extremely onerous given my development pipeline. I have not fully explored the implications yet, but I suspect I will be morally obligated to comply so that they Dukes can be enjoyed by MSFS 2024 exclusive purchasers.
@Black-Square you can’t just tease us like that with the Starship manual. Are you sure it’s still only going to be ~180 pages though? I don’t think anyone would be opposed to it being a little bit longer ;)
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@ploodovic said in Black Square Updates for MSFS2024:
...with the help of the well written manuals, that explain things so someone like me can understand them, and also the excellent tablet that visualizes the systems...
This is music to my ears. Thank you so much for sharing this. I spend a tremendous amount of time on my manuals, and this is exactly why I do it. I refer to them as "a little ground school in a box" to fellow pilots. Unfortunately, I can't spend years writing them, so I know they could still be a lot better. I worry that maybe 1% of my users actually read the manual, but I hope that 1% get enough out of it to make up for the other 99%. The Starship is a passion project of mine, though, so I suspect that will be the best manual I ever write.
I'm ashamed to admit this, but the only reason the KLN90B is not included in the marketplace build is because I simply forgot to ask the developer if that was a possibility. He has since created a marketplace-ready version for me, and it will be included in the next update for the Dukes.
I would absolutely love to offer MSFS 2024 Marketplace versions of all my products, but I have recently been informed of some requirements that might be extremely onerous given my development pipeline. I have not fully explored the implications yet, but I suspect I will be morally obligated to comply so that they Dukes can be enjoyed by MSFS 2024 exclusive purchasers.
@Black-Square said in Black Square Updates for MSFS2024:
This is music to my ears. Thank you so much for sharing this. I spend a tremendous amount of time on my manuals, and this is exactly why I do it.
FWIW, I read the Velocity XL manual a few times back to back, really appreciate you putting the effort. It let me to watch as many videos as I could find about the aircraft as well, to get more out of the sim experience. I didn't know anything about this aircraft until I discovered it in MSFS.
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@zman7887 Also. I have been doing some testing. What has worked for me is:
For tha analaog series: Baron, Bonanza, King Air and Caravan.
Copy the community from 2020 to 2024 and copy the official 2020 to the community 24. Besides that u have to give preference to the community files over the streamed, otherwise images wont load. All 4 work.For the Dukes and TBM just copy the community folder from 2020 to 2024.
They ALL work!!!
Thx
@pequenyo What do you mean give preference to the community over streamed? How do you do that? I can't get mine to work (they used to work but something happened after SU1) - Now only the seats and part of the cockpit load but it's incomplete.
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@pequenyo What do you mean give preference to the community over streamed? How do you do that? I can't get mine to work (they used to work but something happened after SU1) - Now only the seats and part of the cockpit load but it's incomplete.
@Sir_PickleRick that is exactly what happened to me. Some modules are duplicated, asobo and black square. U have to choose which one. I Find out that giving always preference to the community folder worked. Besides that I had to delete the official baron folder because there is a version in the deluxe edition that brought that problem every time I started the game. U delete the official from the community because the deluxe exists (only for the baron) I checked when I wrote last time and with the beta all modules worked. Takes a bit of tweeking that preference but u should be able to find out. Let me know if works for u…
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@Sir_PickleRick that is exactly what happened to me. Some modules are duplicated, asobo and black square. U have to choose which one. I Find out that giving always preference to the community folder worked. Besides that I had to delete the official baron folder because there is a version in the deluxe edition that brought that problem every time I started the game. U delete the official from the community because the deluxe exists (only for the baron) I checked when I wrote last time and with the beta all modules worked. Takes a bit of tweeking that preference but u should be able to find out. Let me know if works for u…
@pequenyo Hey. So I found the solution. I used to copy the 2020 asobo base planes (Baron, Bonanza, Caravan and King Air) into a Official 2020 folder in the 2024 packages directory. For some reason, that stopped working but I just copied them into the community folder and now they work fine. Well, at least the King Air which is the one I mostly fly. Damn Asobo just making nonsensical changes for the hell of it.
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@pequenyo Hey. So I found the solution. I used to copy the 2020 asobo base planes (Baron, Bonanza, Caravan and King Air) into a Official 2020 folder in the 2024 packages directory. For some reason, that stopped working but I just copied them into the community folder and now they work fine. Well, at least the King Air which is the one I mostly fly. Damn Asobo just making nonsensical changes for the hell of it.
@Sir_PickleRick Something similar happened to me-- I had the Caravan, TBM, and King Air all working fine until some update screwed them all up. The Caravan just wouldn't load, the King Air had a persistent autopilot failure (breaker popped), and the TBM wouldn't start. The solution was to move them from the Official 2020 folder to the Community folder, and I haven't had a problem since.
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Hi, I'm enjoying the Dukes in 24 (following moving the folders across from sim to sim). Looking forward to the updated "official" version coming along.
I suspect this is something that can be safely disregarded as I'm flying an unsupported version in 24 effectively but in case it's useful to you, I'm using the newest version of the KLN-90 and I suspect it's causing WASM crashes, it's fine with the WT GNS430/530.
Not expecting a fix or guidance, just in case I'd stumbled on a bug - thanks.
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Hello all, SU2 update available! Release your aircraft ? @Black-Square
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@Black-Square , Any new information for the release regarding the C208 Pro?
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I'm planning on publishing a news update at the beginning of next week regarding 2024 and Starship, by the way. I just wanted to let you guys know.
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hi, guys, i have your duke's bundle. both works good, but i have velocity xl too, and this aircraft haven't engine sound in the simulator. i can not say i fly often this aircraft, but when i want to fly exactly this one, i want it really bad. if it possible fix it, or if exist some secret for it works in ms24 su3 beta 1.5.3, let me know
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and one more thing about velocity xl gps
TDS GTNxi 750 Integration
This product supports the TDS GTNxi 750 as of version 1.1. This aircraft’s GTN 750 unit will
automatically detect a valid TDS GTNxi installation and license key, and automatically switch
between using the PMS GTN 750 and the TDS GTNxi 750 without any required action by the
user.
i honestly don't understand this part of manual. i have installed both 750, but i use pms only as window, and if aircraft have the opportunity to have gtnxi in the cockpits i prefer to use gtnxi. in ms24 velocity xl have a two troubles, first i wrote above about engine sound, and second it start with pms gps, but i want there gtnxi only. thank you -
hi, guys, i have your duke's bundle. both works good, but i have velocity xl too, and this aircraft haven't engine sound in the simulator. i can not say i fly often this aircraft, but when i want to fly exactly this one, i want it really bad. if it possible fix it, or if exist some secret for it works in ms24 su3 beta 1.5.3, let me know
thank you@einherz for the missing sound in 2024, until Black Square issues an update you can try this workaround:
https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/in-development-just-flight-black-square-velocity-xl/520563/140
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would be nice to have more certain instruction what exactly and where exactly path to path
thank you. i don't think it must works if i put this file in root path of the velocity, and i don't sure i have to put it in the /sound/... i banned on their forum long time ago, so i won't ask there:)
p.s.
from f:\MSFS2020\Official\OneStore\asobo-aircraft-e330\SimObjects\Airplanes\Asobo_E330\sound
to \Community\bksq-aircraft-velocityxl\SimObjects\Airplanes\Asobo_E330\Sound
that's what i get from that post, but i don't sure
thank you -
would be nice to have more certain instruction what exactly and where exactly path to path
thank you. i don't think it must works if i put this file in root path of the velocity, and i don't sure i have to put it in the /sound/... i banned on their forum long time ago, so i won't ask there:)
p.s.
from f:\MSFS2020\Official\OneStore\asobo-aircraft-e330\SimObjects\Airplanes\Asobo_E330\sound
to \Community\bksq-aircraft-velocityxl\SimObjects\Airplanes\Asobo_E330\Sound
that's what i get from that post, but i don't sure
thank you@einherz You have to copy it to the exact same folder as it was in the old package.
So if you're asked to copy a file from saySimObjects\Airplanes\Asobo_E330\sound\in the old package, you copy it into the same path under the new package. Even if you have to create some of the subfolders.
